Lance in 'The Age' today



alison_b said:
Quite a big spread on the fellow, with some interesting stats on his heart rate, lung capacity, etc.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/marathon-man/2005/07/22/1121539144887.html?oneclick=true

I don't know enough about such things to know if he really is as unusual as the article suggests (other than his riding ability, that is). It sure sounds out there though...

cheers,
Ali

it quotes the same TexasUni guy that carl gave a link to last week. tested in 1992 and then 1999 (and i think more recently too?)
 
Shane Stanley said:
In article <[email protected]>,
flyingdutch <[email protected]> wrote:

> it quotes the same TexasUni guy that carl gave a link to last week.


It was largely a rehash of the same stuff.

--
Shane Stanley
mea culpa! :) The info wasn't old to me, but I hate to think I took up such valuable space! Repeating content... on an online forum... I hope the punishment isn't too severe ;)

cheers,
Ali
 
alison_b said:
mea culpa! :) The info wasn't old to me, but I hate to think I took up such valuable space! Repeating content... on an online forum... I hope the punishment isn't too severe ;)

cheers,
Ali
I even saw the same information presented on a tv station, cant remember which one now, I think it was nine maybe even nine news.... they finished with the line, Lance Armstrong could not train and he would still be fitter than the "average" male who trains on a regular basis.

Am I average :( ???? whats average ????? *sigh*
 
The HUMANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jock

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| > mea culpa! :) The info wasn't old to me, but I hate to think I took up
| > such valuable space! Repeating content... on an online forum... I
| > hope the punishment isn't too severe ;)
| >
| > cheers,
| > Ali
| I even saw the same information presented on a tv station, cant
| remember which one now, I think it was nine maybe even nine news....
| they finished with the line, Lance Armstrong could not train and he
| would still be fitter than the "average" male who trains on a regular
| basis.
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| Am I average :( ???? whats average ????? *sigh*
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alison_b wrote:
> Shane Stanley Wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>flyingdutch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>it quotes the same TexasUni guy that carl gave a link to last week.

>>
>>It was largely a rehash of the same stuff.
>>
>>--
>>Shane Stanley

>
> mea culpa! :) The info wasn't old to me, but I hate to think I took
> up such valuable space! Repeating content... on an online forum... I
> hope the punishment isn't too severe ;)
>
> cheers,
> Ali


Dont sweat it Ali... There is no pleasing some people....

I for one welcomed the news...
 
Shane Stanley said:
In article <[email protected]>,
alison_b <[email protected]> wrote:

> mea culpa!


No criticism of you intended -- I was really just a bit surprised at how
blatant the author of the article had been.

--
Shane Stanley
:) It's ok, I wasn't stressing! Well, I wasn't until I read the age today, and got p!ssy about putting the proposals for new legislation to crack down on cyclists playing free with the road rules next to the article on the women's cycling team tragedy. (And suggestions for changes along Beach Road generally.) Is there a prize for the most clueless juxtaposition?

I don't have a problem with cyclists being policed to obey road rules... but surely some balance is required? I'm just about driven spare on a daily basis by motorists cutting me off, and my all time favourite: cutting me off with a mobile phone attached to the side of their face.

I live near Racecourse Road in Melbourne (Newmarket bit of it), and can honestly not remember the last time I walked around the corner and did not see either cars running red lights, drivers on their phones, or cars blocking the bikelane (and obstructing the left hand lane as well in the process). There is a 40km speed limit which is similarly disregarded (by drivers, not cyclists :D).

I am more likely to ride around that area than through it... policing the cyclists who run the occasional red light there (and there are some, but they are few) will do diddlysquat for making the area safer for the people who actually live in the area.

now, for a nice cuppa tea :)
ali
 
alison_b said:
:) It's ok, I wasn't stressing! Well, I wasn't until I read the age today, and got p!ssy about putting the proposals for new legislation to crack down on cyclists playing free with the road rules next to the article on the women's cycling team tragedy. (And suggestions for changes along Beach Road generally.) Is there a prize for the most clueless juxtaposition?

I don't have a problem with cyclists being policed to obey road rules... but surely some balance is required? I'm just about driven spare on a daily basis by motorists cutting me off, and my all time favourite: cutting me off with a mobile phone attached to the side of their face.

I live near Racecourse Road in Melbourne (Newmarket bit of it), and can honestly not remember the last time I walked around the corner and did not see either cars running red lights, drivers on their phones, or cars blocking the bikelane (and obstructing the left hand lane as well in the process). There is a 40km speed limit which is similarly disregarded (by drivers, not cyclists :D).

I am more likely to ride around that area than through it... policing the cyclists who run the occasional red light there (and there are some, but they are few) will do diddlysquat for making the area safer for the people who actually live in the area.

now, for a nice cuppa tea :)
ali
Agreed.....I have know problem with it either

but I start reading the Age website and see what now cyclists are being cracked down on, but I think they were in particular having a go at the Hell Road and basically and "bunch" that rides down Beach Road on any time of the day.

I mean obviously it is always the cyclists fault, we are just taking up precious road space, how dare we, its just not fair for motorists

when you read the headlines on the website i almost thought, what the ????? Are they saying it was the girls fault for being in a bunch on the road in germany!???
 
MikeyOz wrote:
> alison_b Wrote:
>
>>:) It's ok, I wasn't stressing! Well, I wasn't until I read the age
>>today, and got p!ssy about putting the proposals for new legislation to
>>crack down on cyclists playing free with the road rules next to the
>>article on the women's cycling team tragedy. (And suggestions for
>>changes along Beach Road generally.) Is there a prize for the most
>>clueless juxtaposition?
>>
>>I don't have a problem with cyclists being policed to obey road
>>rules... but surely some balance is required? I'm just about driven
>>spare on a daily basis by motorists cutting me off, and my all time
>>favourite: cutting me off with a mobile phone attached to the side of
>>their face.
>>
>>I live near Racecourse Road in Melbourne (Newmarket bit of it), and can
>>honestly not remember the last time I walked around the corner and did
>>not see either cars running red lights, drivers on their phones, or
>>cars blocking the bikelane (and obstructing the left hand lane as well
>>in the process). There is a 40km speed limit which is similarly
>>disregarded (by drivers, not cyclists :D).
>>
>>I am more likely to ride around that area than through it... policing
>>the cyclists who run the occasional red light there (and there are
>>some, but they are few) will do diddlysquat for making the area safer
>>for the people who actually live in the area.
>>
>>now, for a nice cuppa tea :)
>>ali

>
> Agreed.....I have know problem with it either
>
> but I start reading the Age website and see what now cyclists are being
> cracked down on, but I think they were in particular having a go at the
> Hell Road and basically and "bunch" that rides down Beach Road on any
> time of the day.
>
> I mean obviously it is always the cyclists fault, we are just taking up
> precious road space, how dare we, its just not fair for motorists
>
> when you read the headlines on the website i almost thought, what the
> ????? Are they saying it was the girls fault for being in a bunch on
> the road in germany!???
>


Yep.. CLearly dangerous stupid thoughtless behavior. THat poor driver
will be traumatised for life just becouse they thought they had a right
to be on the road.. how selfish can you get?


How about we all storm the Age and lynch that reporter
>
 
The hell ride often takes up three lanes and is ridden as if the roads
are closed. Any flak it gets is deserved. It's bloody stupid and
dangerous and does no-one any favours. I actively discourage my riders
from doing it.

If it stuck to one lane and was ridden responsibly, like the vast
majority of bunch rides on
Beach Rd, it wouldn't be a problem.
 
dave said:
MikeyOz wrote:
> alison_b Wrote:
>
>>:) It's ok, I wasn't stressing! Well, I wasn't until I read the age
>>today, and got p!ssy about putting the proposals for new legislation to
>>crack down on cyclists playing free with the road rules next to the
>>article on the women's cycling team tragedy. (And suggestions for
>>changes along Beach Road generally.) Is there a prize for the most
>>clueless juxtaposition?
>>
>>I don't have a problem with cyclists being policed to obey road
>>rules... but surely some balance is required? I'm just about driven
>>spare on a daily basis by motorists cutting me off, and my all time
>>favourite: cutting me off with a mobile phone attached to the side of
>>their face.
>>
>>I live near Racecourse Road in Melbourne (Newmarket bit of it), and can
>>honestly not remember the last time I walked around the corner and did
>>not see either cars running red lights, drivers on their phones, or
>>cars blocking the bikelane (and obstructing the left hand lane as well
>>in the process). There is a 40km speed limit which is similarly
>>disregarded (by drivers, not cyclists :D).
>>
>>I am more likely to ride around that area than through it... policing
>>the cyclists who run the occasional red light there (and there are
>>some, but they are few) will do diddlysquat for making the area safer
>>for the people who actually live in the area.
>>
>>now, for a nice cuppa tea :)
>>ali

>
> Agreed.....I have know problem with it either
>
> but I start reading the Age website and see what now cyclists are being
> cracked down on, but I think they were in particular having a go at the
> Hell Road and basically and "bunch" that rides down Beach Road on any
> time of the day.
>
> I mean obviously it is always the cyclists fault, we are just taking up
> precious road space, how dare we, its just not fair for motorists
>
> when you read the headlines on the website i almost thought, what the
> ????? Are they saying it was the girls fault for being in a bunch on
> the road in germany!???
>


Yep.. CLearly dangerous stupid thoughtless behavior. THat poor driver
will be traumatised for life just becouse they thought they had a right
to be on the road.. how selfish can you get?


How about we all storm the Age and lynch that reporter
>
already sent my letter in, but had to wait about 30 minutes before I did.... before the red haze dissapated from my eyes.......

its frustrating because I think most people that post on here, indicate they obey the road rules anyway..!! but we all get lumped into the one pot.