On Feb 6, 5:32 pm, "
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> On Feb 6, 2:09 pm, Bill C <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On Feb 6, 3:26 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > On Feb 6, 12:40 pm, Bill C <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > Hey maybe the doorman went to the "Mall Ninja" school of security
> > > > operations.
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> > > I heard they finally quit trying to have graduation ceremonies there.
> > > But, they seem to enjoy a100% success rate at placing enrollees into
> > > the work force. And that's what counts, right?
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> > > --D-y
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> > If they all graduate it MUST mean the program is exemplary, and they
> > have the most amazing students.
> > I heard a comedy piece on XM the other day about "Who applies for
> > these jobs?!" The lead in it was about the folks at airport lost
> > luggage offices. Door/security at a club is in the same category IMO.
> > If you're doing that it means you're a REAL man, right?
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> Dude,
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> I wasn't there, but the bouncer was doing his job.
> You can't let people, even bigshots, carry drinks
> out of a bar - good way to get the liquor license
> suspended. Yeah, Americans treat liquor like it
> was nitroglycerin - part of our Puritan heritage -
> but that is the law.
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> LANCE acted like a jerk. Then he sobered up, acted
> like a man, and apologized. That's all. Everybody's
> done something dumb while drunk, so it isn't proof
> that LANCE is evil, but don't blame the working stiff
> at the door.
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Ben did you read the piece with lance's apology? I'm willing to
believe, based on numerous episodes, that the bouncer was overly
agressive, and not polite.
If you're smart in those situations, to avoid lawsuits too, you start
out with something along the lines of "Sir, excuse me sir. I'm really
sorry but the law says we can't let anyone take drinks outside."
Noone seems to have heard the beginning of this, but I'm gonna give
Lance the benefit of the doubt.
I've both removed/dealt with folks, and been the one removed. It's
ALWAYS better to de-escalate the situation as much as possible, even
if it only buys you time to get help/cops/witnesses to CYA you and the
club, from both sides.
Lots of places use goons in this with little to no training. Bad
mistake. That's why off-duty/retired cops can always get these type of
gigs. They provide some legal cover for the clubs based on their
training, skills, and supposed credibility.
None of us knows what happened, and Lance has been said to be an
asshole occasionally, but I'm giving him the be nefit of the doubt
here.
Bill C