In article <
[email protected]>,
Tom Sherman <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > In article
> > <925bb42e-7400-4ecd-a676-24abcceacb2e@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> > Andre Jute <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Feb 2, 5:39 pm, Ryan Cousineau <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Ryan Cousineau of the Krygo-Fogel Begrudger Brigade
> >> Huh? You want to make up a party with my googlebug golem, Carl "Gofer"
> >> Fogel, and my temple dog, Frank "Fetch" Kryogowski, and call yourself
> >> the Red Brigades?
> >
> > Yes Andre. Because along with their many vices, they share a common
> > virtue: they don't turn into lunatics when they start typing Usenet
> > posts.
> >
> > So valuable, so rare.
> >
> >> Man, I'm not so big on formal manners, but we don't ask the help to
> >> sit down and we don't feed other people's dogs. The first leads to
> >> impertinence and the second is too close to wife-stealing, almost up
> >> there with the theft of a good cook.
> >
> > Andre, you were never asked to do anything more than explain the
> > circumstances of some extraordinary claims.
> >
> Nothing more? It is absolutely clear that Mr. Fogel was insinuating that
> Mr. Jute was lying. It would not be the first, or even the second time
> Mr. Fogel has made false accusations of lying.
Oh for heaven's sake. You know what? If you post something that appears,
in the obvious cases, to violate what is physically possible, yeah, you
might get suspected of lying.
Also, who cares. People who don't want to get accused of lying shouldn't
post on Usenet. People with thin skins should avoid posting on Usenet.
Heck, I probably shouldn't post on Usenet, because I rise to bait like
this. Right now, I am re-reminded that I have long thought that the
smartest person ever to visit this forum was Mark Hickey.
You know when I started thinking that? The day he decided to leave.
Dear rbt, why can't I quit you?
Back to my point, Andre's most interesting contribution to rbt so far
has been his creative writing. His least interesting contribution has
been his hobby of tilting at windmills he insists are named "Carl."
But I guess it's cheaper than therapy.
> > If that gets your britches
> > sufficiently twisted to begin a running fit of name-calling (or worse)
> > here, well, you'd better clear your schedule and grab your thesaurus,
> > because you've got a lot of angry posts ahead of you.
> >
> > But you know, the biggest journey starts with a single step,
> >
> Like seeing the less pleasant sides of people behind the veneer of false
> charm?
Oh yeah, Tom. Carl's such an angry monster. Me too! Angry angry! Grr!
Watch me scare people with my pointed posts and Grade 6 vocab! Graaar!
I'm unpleasant! I make "therapy" jokes about people because they act
nutty on Usenet! I suggest people explain extraordinary theories and
claims! So very unpleasant! I can totally see how Carl's attempts to
question things, do actual tests, and pore through research texts could
totally annoy people here.
No, wait, I can't, except that I have to accept that there's a lot of
people who are either taking Usenet too seriously, take themselves too
seriously, or aren't used to being asked questions by apparently nice
people.
If your definition of "less pleasant" is veiled, inquisitive suggestions
that there's something odd about a story posted in rbt, then I'm not
sure how you ever survived grade school. Because I gotta tell you, on an
unpleasantness scale of 1 (Roger Hargreaves' Mr. Happy*) to 10 (Stalin),
Carl's somewhere around a 3. He's pleasant enough to get a job at the
Build-A-Bear Workshop*.
It's at this point I should probably make some sort of ObBike section
like I usually try to do, and here it is:
Anyone had any good experiences with the Exustar cold-weather high-top
boots? Or, similarly, the various Shimano models? I'm realizing that
either boot is not much more expensive than a set of booties, which
might make them good choices for my winter madness. I'm especially
interested in performance during classic Vancouver conditions: 3 hours
of riding in 3C drizzle.
Now, back to my not-very-bicycling silliness...where was I?
Oh yes, final thoughts.
The reason I'm writing this is mainly because I have seen before the
case of clever people who post stuff I like reading getting driven off
of online fora by louder or angrier people, or people who simply had
more time on their hands, for no other reason than not wanting to put up
with the silliness anymore.
I've thought about this carefully, done a little reading, contemplated
the various contributions of the people in recent discussions, and,
well, while it's not my place to actually pass out judgments that have
any strength, I'd point out to Mr. Jute that his signal/noise ratio is
rather low, and his fly-off-the-handle-for-no-good-reason rating (IMHO)
is pretty severely high, even in this group with no small number of thin
skins.
Do you remember, Tom, why Andre got so mad? It was, as far as I can
tell, basically two lines by Carl:
"I'm not surprised that you got no real answer beyond that vague
tarmacadam farm lane that only one farmer uses, continent
unspecified...etc"
"And I'd still be pleased to find that my skepticism is wrong and
that there is a paved farm lane long enough and steep enough for that
kind of bike to do well over 100 kmh."
I mean, wow. With criticism like that, one can certainly see how Carl
got his reputation for the veiled sneer, the cruel cut, and manners that
would horrify the prettiest clique of girls at Beverly Hills High School.
But you know, I'm sorta being sarcastic now.
I guess Andre is entertaining after a fashion, but please: I actually
had to read back stuff in previous threads largely because I trust you
as a semi-reliable source of opinions.
I'm not sure why you're carrying water for Andre, but you know, I guess
it's a hobby.
As for Andre, I can only direct you to the work of Gorilla Magilla in
rbr as something to aspire to. He really knows how to work a crowd.
Share & Enjoy,
* <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/4858304.stm>
**Those employees are seriously perky and pleasant. I know there is a
strong element of true-believer self-selection in the hiring process,
but my experiences there have been uniformly impressive on the
enthusiastic-and-happy scale. I could see where it would be downright
frightening to anyone of a naturally suspicious mindset, as even I found
it slightly unnerving, and I like happy people!
--
Ryan Cousineau
[email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
