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Tom Sherman
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[email protected] aka Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On Feb 3, 3:48 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> [email protected] aka Frank Krygowski wrote:> On Feb 3, 3:06 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I drafted a pick-up truck pulling a wagon full of hay bales for several
>>>> miles at speeds of 40 to 50 kph (25 to 30 mph for USians) on a flat to
>>>> slightly rolling road. My effort was that of casual riding, while on the
>>>> same bicycle without a draft I would have "blown up" [1] riding at the
>>>> same speed over the same road.
>>> Did you use that to brag about how aero your bike was - while
>>> purposely omitting the fact that you were drafting?
>> No, and while said action would have been misleading, it would not have
>> been a lie, UNLESS the argument was made that the speed was solely due
>> to bicycle aerodynamics.
>
> We're on the edge of a breakthrough!
>
> Now you've admitted such a thing would have been misleading, but that
> it would not be a lie.
>
Now??? I wrote something similar days ago, and Mr. Jute appeared to
agree with my assessment.
> OK, now re-read the Fogel quote you're incensed about. Did he
> specifically say Jute's statement was a lie? Or is there a chance he
> was merely implying that Jute could be "misleading" people?
>
The implication was an accusation of a lie.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
- A. Derleth
> On Feb 3, 3:48 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> [email protected] aka Frank Krygowski wrote:> On Feb 3, 3:06 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I drafted a pick-up truck pulling a wagon full of hay bales for several
>>>> miles at speeds of 40 to 50 kph (25 to 30 mph for USians) on a flat to
>>>> slightly rolling road. My effort was that of casual riding, while on the
>>>> same bicycle without a draft I would have "blown up" [1] riding at the
>>>> same speed over the same road.
>>> Did you use that to brag about how aero your bike was - while
>>> purposely omitting the fact that you were drafting?
>> No, and while said action would have been misleading, it would not have
>> been a lie, UNLESS the argument was made that the speed was solely due
>> to bicycle aerodynamics.
>
> We're on the edge of a breakthrough!
>
> Now you've admitted such a thing would have been misleading, but that
> it would not be a lie.
>
Now??? I wrote something similar days ago, and Mr. Jute appeared to
agree with my assessment.
> OK, now re-read the Fogel quote you're incensed about. Did he
> specifically say Jute's statement was a lie? Or is there a chance he
> was merely implying that Jute could be "misleading" people?
>
The implication was an accusation of a lie.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
- A. Derleth