Landis and testosterone

[Hawaiian Wayne]

How long are the members of this group going to keep chit-chatting
about Landis and the testosterone incident?

I'm so sick of hearing about it now that I could PUKE~! Drop it,
already...Jeez!

Aloha for now,
Hawaiian Wayne

 

[Michael Press]

In article
<[email protected]>,
Hawaiian Wayne <[email protected]> wrote:

> How long are the members of this group going to keep chit-chatting
> about Landis and the testosterone incident?
>
> I'm so sick of hearing about it now that I could PUKE~! Drop it,
> already...Jeez!
>

It is induhviduals such as yourself that post messages
about the incident, not the "group." But, you are
excused. You do not know any better.

--
Michael Press

 

[Donald Munro]

Hawaiian Wayne wrote:
>> How long are the members of this group going to keep chit-chatting
>> about Landis and the testosterone incident?

Michael Press wrote:
> It is induhviduals such as yourself that post messages
> about the incident, not the "group."

Assimilation is inevitable. Resistance is futile. We are the Borg.

 

[Smokey]

On Sep 5, 9:29 am, Hawaiian Wayne <[email protected]> wrote:
> How long are the members of this group going to keep chit-chatting
> about Landis and the testosterone incident?
>
> I'm so sick of hearing about it now that I could PUKE~! Drop it,
> already...Jeez!
>
> Aloha for now,
> Hawaiian Wayne

3.2 on the troll-o-meter. Unimaginative subject, hackneyed phrasing.
One bonus point for no profanity.

Smokey

 

[Hawaiian Wayne]

On Sep 5, 1:24 pm, Smokey <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sep 5, 9:29 am, Hawaiian Wayne <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > How long are the members of this group going to keep chit-chatting
> > about Landis and thetestosteroneincident?
>
> > I'm so sick of hearing about it now that I could PUKE~! Drop it,
> > already...Jeez!
>
> > Aloha for now,
> > Hawaiian Wayne
>
> 3.2 on the troll-o-meter. Unimaginative subject, hackneyed phrasing.
> One bonus point for no profanity.
>
> Smokey

Finally!

I was waiting for my score. I thought it a solid 2 and was only hoping
for at least that, so a 3.2 far exceeded my wildest dreams.

I can sleep happy now.

Hawaiian Wayne

 

[Carl Sundquist]

"Hawaiian Wayne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sep 5, 1:24 pm, Smokey <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sep 5, 9:29 am, Hawaiian Wayne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > How long are the members of this group going to keep chit-chatting
>> > about Landis and thetestosteroneincident?
>>
>> > I'm so sick of hearing about it now that I could PUKE~! Drop it,
>> > already...Jeez!
>>
>> > Aloha for now,
>> > Hawaiian Wayne
>>
>> 3.2 on the troll-o-meter. Unimaginative subject, hackneyed phrasing.
>> One bonus point for no profanity.
>>
>> Smokey
>
> Finally!
>
> I was waiting for my score. I thought it a solid 2 and was only hoping
> for at least that, so a 3.2 far exceeded my wildest dreams.
>
> I can sleep happy now.
>
> Hawaiian Wayne
>

Hope you dream about Landis and thetestosteroneincident.

 

[Hobbes@spnb&s.com]

On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 14:59:50 -0000, Hawaiian Wayne <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Sep 5, 1:24 pm, Smokey <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sep 5, 9:29 am, Hawaiian Wayne <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > How long are the members of this group going to keep chit-chatting
>> > about Landis and thetestosteroneincident?
>>
>> > I'm so sick of hearing about it now that I could PUKE~! Drop it,
>> > already...Jeez!
>>
>> > Aloha for now,
>> > Hawaiian Wayne
>>
>> 3.2 on the troll-o-meter. Unimaginative subject, hackneyed phrasing.
>> One bonus point for no profanity.
>>
>> Smokey
>
>Finally!
>
>I was waiting for my score. I thought it a solid 2 and was only hoping
>for at least that, so a 3.2 far exceeded my wildest dreams.

Yeah but you were hoping on a 0 - 10 scale, the 3.2 represents Troll-O-Metric
Preemminences of which there are 37. So your score is actually less than one,
according to your system.

 

[Dan Connelly]

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:

>
> A compact bike frame, to me, appears as one not fitting together
> correctly. Maybe I should go into the bike frame business. Bikers
> don't even seem to notice.

I still don't understand why the top tube angle makes any difference, except for frame mass. But what do I know....

Dan

 

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On Sep 10, 12:11 pm, Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m>
wrote:
> SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
>
>
>
> > A compact bike frame, to me, appears as one not fitting together
> > correctly. Maybe I should go into the bike frame business. Bikers
> > don't even seem to notice.
>
> I still don't understand why the top tube angle makes any difference, except for frame mass. But what do I know....

It looks odd -- like my shed frame construction.

Do frame pumps stay and fit well in compact frames? For "classic"
geometry, there was a peg for the obtuse angle and a the seat-top
angle was acute.

I suppose it doesn't matter for carbon frames -- they need straps to
hold the pump. I hate that. Lame-o.

 

[Jay Hill]

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
> I suppose it doesn't matter for carbon frames -- they need straps to
> hold the pump. I hate that. Lame-o.

Where did that come from? My cf Look 381 holds a generic frame pump
under the top tube just fine (without a strap), and it could also hold a
pump along the seat tube.

 

[Kyle Legate]

Jay Hill wrote:
> SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
>> I suppose it doesn't matter for carbon frames -- they need straps to
>> hold the pump. I hate that. Lame-o.
>
> Where did that come from? My cf Look 381 holds a generic frame pump
> under the top tube just fine (without a strap), and it could also hold a
> pump along the seat tube.
>
The material doesn't matter. I have an aluminum Fondreist with carbon
rear triangle and there's no room for a pump. But with CO2 cartridges,
who carries a pump anymore?

 

[William Asher]

Kyle Legate wrote:

> Jay Hill wrote:
>> SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
>>> I suppose it doesn't matter for carbon frames -- they need straps to
>>> hold the pump. I hate that. Lame-o.
>>
>> Where did that come from? My cf Look 381 holds a generic frame pump
>> under the top tube just fine (without a strap), and it could also
>> hold a pump along the seat tube.
>>
> The material doesn't matter. I have an aluminum Fondreist with carbon
> rear triangle and there's no room for a pump. But with CO2 cartridges,
> who carries a pump anymore?
>

With N2O cartridges, who needs a bicycle?

--
Bill Asher

 

[Dan Connelly]

Kyle Legate wrote:

> The material doesn't matter. I have an aluminum Fondreist with carbon
> rear triangle and there's no room for a pump. But with CO2 cartridges,
> who carries a pump anymore?

CO2 + cell phone?

Harumph. I'll stick with my Topeak Morph.

Dan

 

[Steven L. Sheffield]

On 09/11/2007 11:50 AM, in article [email protected], "Kyle
Legate" <[email protected]> wrote:

> But with CO2 cartridges,
> who carries a pump anymore?



People who prefer to keep extra CO2 out of the atmosphere?



--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
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ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
double-yew double-ewe dot flahute dot com [foreword] slash

 

[Howard Kveck]

In article <C30CCE7C.62D53%[email protected]>,
"Steven L. Sheffield" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 09/11/2007 11:50 AM, in article [email protected], "Kyle
> Legate" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > But with CO2 cartridges,
> > who carries a pump anymore?
>
>
>
> People who prefer to keep extra CO2 out of the atmosphere?

There's also the possibilty that one might have more flats than cartridges.

--
tanx,
Howard

Faberge eggs are elegant but I prefer Faberge bacon.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

 

[Kyle Legate]

Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
> On 09/11/2007 11:50 AM, in article [email protected], "Kyle
> Legate" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> But with CO2 cartridges,
>> who carries a pump anymore?
>
>
>
> People who prefer to keep extra CO2 out of the atmosphere?
>
>
>
Stop breathing then.

 

[Steven L. Sheffield]

On 09/12/2007 12:32 AM, in article [email protected], "Kyle
Legate" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
>> On 09/11/2007 11:50 AM, in article [email protected], "Kyle
>> Legate" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> But with CO2 cartridges,
>>> who carries a pump anymore?
>>
>>
>>
>> People who prefer to keep extra CO2 out of the atmosphere?
>>
>>
>>
> Stop breathing then.



I said **EXTRA** CO2.

Maybe I should have said "unnecessary CO2" ...



--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
bellum pax est libertas servitus est ignoratio vis est
ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
double-yew double-ewe dot flahute dot com [foreword] slash

 

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On Sep 12, 5:58 am, "Steven L. Sheffield" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On 09/12/2007 12:32 AM, in article [email protected], "Kyle
>
> Legate" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
> >> On 09/11/2007 11:50 AM, in article [email protected], "Kyle
> >> Legate" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> But with CO2 cartridges,
> >>> who carries a pump anymore?
>
> >> People who prefer to keep extra CO2 out of the atmosphere?
>
> > Stop breathing then.
>
> I said **EXTRA** CO2.
>
> Maybe I should have said "unnecessary CO2" ...

You're saying Al ***** should stop breathing?

 

[Bill C]

On Sep 12, 12:00 pm, SLAVE of THE STATE <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sep 12, 5:58 am, "Steven L. Sheffield" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 09/12/2007 12:32 AM, in article [email protected], "Kyle
>
> > Legate" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Steven L. Sheffield wrote:
> > >> On 09/11/2007 11:50 AM, in article [email protected], "Kyle
> > >> Legate" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >>> But with CO2 cartridges,
> > >>> who carries a pump anymore?
>
> > >> People who prefer to keep extra CO2 out of the atmosphere?
>
> > > Stop breathing then.
>
> > I said **EXTRA** CO2.
>
> > Maybe I should have said "unnecessary CO2" ...
>
> You're saying Al ***** should stop breathing?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I thought he converted CO2 to oxygen?
Bill C

 

[SLAVE of THE STATE]

On Sep 12, 7:46 pm, Howard Kveck <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Donald Munro <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Howard Kveck wrote:
> > > There's also the possibilty that one might have more flats than cartridges.
>
> > You get some pretty small pumps that fit in a jersey pocket these
> > days for emergencies like that. They work pretty reasonably,
> > you can get your tyres up to 80 psi or so if you don't mind a
> > a bit of PT (particularly helpful training for people who don't
> > have a scintillating social life).
>
> I've seen these micro pumps and it looks like frustrating work getting even that
> much pressure in a tire, if the mini pumps are anything to go by. Definitely more
> of a cardio workout than the ride itself.

I have one for commuting around town, but they suck. My road racing
bikes have large and light (150g) frame pumps that pump a lot of air
fast.

Plus, if they are attached, I don't have to remember them.

I don't want to waste my time and money going and buying cartridges.
What a PITA.

> Greg is right that the shapes of carbon frames
> don't often lend themselves to frame pumps - the big radii at the joints don't help.

That's it for mine. Straps are a necessity. Many others I've seen
are the same way. Lame-o.

> I think I'm going to find a smallish regular frame pump and do something to attach it
> to the bottom of the left chainstay (it'll lower the CG and be more aero, you
> know...).

I tryed that, but couldn't get it to work. I've seen it work for some
folks though.

---
I was thinking about another reason I don't like compact frames. I
have bought my Leesville Gap Survival Water Bottles, which are those
giant 38-40 oz Zefals. They are very tall. Combine those with a
frame pump, large (and rounded joint) frame tubes, and a compact
frame, then people without a large frame size will not get the
combination to fit in the available space. While these are minor
complaints, I don't find the compact frame compelling. I would not
buy one.

Incidentally, the King cages don't lose those big-ass bottles, even on
rough pavement. I say that only to annoy Bob, as he seems to have
this "anti-cool is cool" thing going on.


So now can we get back to chit-chatting about Landis and testosterone?