What are you wearing right now?nns1400 said:I agree. Can we talk about Landis some more? Because I for one DO like armchair psychology and pseudoscience and drama.
What are you wearing right now?nns1400 said:I agree. Can we talk about Landis some more? Because I for one DO like armchair psychology and pseudoscience and drama.
A .57 Magnum. Don't ask again.helmutRoole2 said:What are you wearing right now?
dexjava said:Actually, yes there is. Take a look at your profile options. There is an ignore list.
ahaha helmutdroole got shot down!nns1400 said:A .57 Magnum. Don't ask again.
Hmmm... a lady who knows her hand guns, sort of. And cycling.nns1400 said:A .57 Magnum. Don't ask again.
Back off, dex. I'm going to have nns1400 in the virtual sack before this thread is over.dexjava said:ahaha helmutdroole got shot down!
Anybody ever wonder about the consequences of taking both Viagra & EPO concurrently? It might lead to some pretty amazing stamina, as well as some other interesting effects..helmutRoole2 said:Back off, dex. I'm going to have nns1400 in the virtual sack before this thread is over.
As far as I'm concerned this thread is over. Nice chatting with you guys. bye!helmutRoole2 said:Back off, dex. I'm going to have nns1400 in the virtual sack before this thread is over.
So, back to Landis.nns1400 said:As far as I'm concerned this thread is over. Nice chatting with you guys. bye!
It must be nice to live a binary existance, makes things easy.nns1400 said:No one leaked information prematurely. I'm tired of the French conspiracy thing. He tested positive. Deal with it.
Way to droole all over her, helmut. You chased her off.nns1400 said:As far as I'm concerned this thread is over. Nice chatting with you guys. bye!
dexjava said:I'm curious how you know that Landis was trying to take a cheap shot at Europeans. This is the way you construed it, but that's not necessarily the way Floyd meant it.
There is one other way to take his statement. This likely could have been a case of Floyd throwing the actions of American journalists and witch hunters back in their faces. Apparently Floyd's mother fled her home (in the united states) because of the way journalists and others were mobbing her. This was an AMERICAN mob, not a European mob. Maybe this statement was directed at them as being "un-american".
I agree that he may have meant it as a dig at Europeans, but it may have been directed at these Americans I spoke of instead. Possibly even both. Only Floyd knows which of these groups this was aimed at.
Before you get so heated, maybe you should calm down and think about all possibilities before starting a French/American flamewar thread based on a statement you may have mis-construed.
allegroman said:It must be nice to live a binary existance, makes things easy.
I don't like the whole procedure. First, the rules state that test results shouldn't have been revealed to the public before both A and B samples have been tested and verified. Oops, I did it again, another anti-doping rule that is apparantly only a recommendation.
Secondly, we are talking about a cyclist's career here, not conspiracy, so I think where even the remote possibility of a chain of custody claim or tampering exists, every effort should be made to mitigate the risk of such an occurance. If procedures were rigorous, I think the A and B samples should have been separated in the field and sent to different laboratories. The fact that the same French lab (which was at least complicit through poor controls in leaking confidential test results for Armstrong) is responsible for conducting and assuring the fairness of both the A and B test would not make me happy if my butt was on the line.
The lack of due process, inadequate checks and balances, pitiful leadership within the cycling organizations and WADA is a cause of consternation. Doesn't exculpate Landis, but doesn't fill me with confidence in the way professional cycling handles such matters either.
I don't think that is accurate. I'm not sure and don't care to look it up but I don't think that is accurate. There many examples of athletes that their test results became public without having tested both samples.allegroman said:It must be nice to live a binary existance, makes things easy.
I don't like the whole procedure. First, the rules state that test results shouldn't have been revealed to the public before both A and B samples have been tested and verified. Oops, I did it again, another anti-doping rule that is apparantly only a recommendation.
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That's why Jan's going to get to ride again. Then he's going to sign with Discovery and i'm going to cheer him on here at the Tour of California!JohnO said:Floyd shouldn't take it personally - Ullrich and Basso have had their careers hammered, without a hearing, court action, due process, or even evidence that mentions either of them directly for that matter.
Sure, there is an indirect association from Ullrich to Fuentes, via Pevenage, but let's be honest here - Jan has been seriously hammered without benefit of due process, confronting his accusers in court, or even cross examination. And he's looking more like a victim of circumstance with every passing day.
nns1400 said:there is no Santa Claus. theories.
allegroman said:It must be nice to live a binary existance, makes things easy.
I don't like the whole procedure. First, the rules state that test results shouldn't have been revealed to the public before both A and B samples have been tested and verified. Oops, I did it again, another anti-doping rule that is apparantly only a recommendation.
Secondly, we are talking about a cyclist's career here, not conspiracy, so I think where even the remote possibility of a chain of custody claim or tampering exists, every effort should be made to mitigate the risk of such an occurance. If procedures were rigorous, I think the A and B samples should have been separated in the field and sent to different laboratories. The fact that the same French lab (which was at least complicit through poor controls in leaking confidential test results for Armstrong) is responsible for conducting and assuring the fairness of both the A and B test would not make me happy if my butt was on the line.
The lack of due process, inadequate checks and balances, pitiful leadership within the cycling organizations and WADA is a cause of consternation. Doesn't exculpate Landis, but doesn't fill me with confidence in the way professional cycling handles such matters either.
whiteboytrash said:I know a lot of you guys don't like l'Equipe but what is most interesting about McQuid's statments is that there could be no "cover up" because he knew the lab would leak the news to l'Equipe. We know in years gone by the UCI would of worked on this behind the scences and then had a medical certificate back dated to eraicate the positive test but thanks to the lab they just can't do that anymore. Power to the press ?
nns1400 said:I just said I'm not French! Ha ha. The only married man I date is my husband. We prefer to stay faithful, sorry!
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