Latest Research on Saddles

Discussion in 'Cycling Equipment' started by craigstanton, Oct 4, 2005.

  1. alienator

    alienator Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2004
    Messages:
    12,596
    Likes Received:
    161
    Well, my example of myself was not an "n of one experiment" because I was just citing my own experience. The fact, however, that there hasn't been a statistically large number of cyclists is compelling: it suggests that the alleged problem is overstated. For the E3 and that "researcher's" specious methods, I'd say the problem wasn't even a concern: it was an excuse to pocket some dosh.

    If you read my posts, you'll see that I emphasize fit and finding a comfy saddle. The vast majority of people can get a good bike fit and get a saddle that works, without resorting to something scientifically dodgy.

    Scientifically dodgy? Yup, because the E3 hawkers make their point with measurement magnitudes w/out putting those magnitudes in the proper context. Big number? So what? What's the definition of an inadequate number? What's the lower limit to an acceptible number? Is there a time dependency?

    Last, if you'd like to discuss my diabetes, then do so in a PM, Hack, rather than doing so in public. Bringing that up publically and in the context you used makes any objective view of yours about look pretty smarmy.
     


  2. Meek One

    Meek One New Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2004
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    0
    So, I guess no one knows what the E5's riders weight limit is. :(

    Now back to Scientist vs Physician Round 3...
     
  3. RapDaddyo

    RapDaddyo Active Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    5,088
    Likes Received:
    41
    Well, let's see. On one side we have a physician, who should know a little something about how blood gets to the vital regions of the body, who has personally experienced the problem at issue and who has personal experience with the product at issue. On the other side, we have a very smart scientist, with unknown (to me, at least) credentials in medicine or physiology, who has never (to my knowledge) either experienced the problem at issue or used the product at issue. Let me see, tough choice there. It's a close call, but I think I'll take physician with specific experience and more relevant background.
     
  4. Meek One

    Meek One New Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2004
    Messages:
    629
    Likes Received:
    0
    So, the judge rules a TKO in the 3rd. :D
     
  5. DanP

    DanP New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2003
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    0
    Actually I use the E3 only on a trainer (dedicated a bike to it), and so far so good. My trainer sessions are only under 2 hrs but I get the feeling it would continue being fine for longer.
     
  6. Rocket^

    Rocket^ New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2005
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have used six different saddles since I began riding. The E3 causes me the least amount of numbness out of any I have tried. When I do experience numbness, it is so little, the problem can be rectified with 20 seconds out of the saddle. The majority of my training since I have owned this saddle has been indoors on the trainer (6 days per week). Regardless of the numbers validity, this is the best saddle I have had so far. I would recommend it to anyone who is experiencing any problems with going numb.


    Disclaimer: I'm in no way affiliated with the maker of E3. This review is my opinion and is based on cosumer experience, not scientific evaluation. Mileage may vary. :D
     
  7. wnowak06

    wnowak06 New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2005
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    0
    Have they done any studies with pro riders? Thousands of pros spend many, many hours in the saddle, riding in the drops on the nose of the seat. It seems to me if this were as big of a problem as some of you say it is, pro cyclists would be in more trouble, no?

    Also, for those of you who experience numbness, do you have a good pair of cycling shorts with padding to protect that area? They help.
     
  8. RapDaddyo

    RapDaddyo Active Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    5,088
    Likes Received:
    41
    Actually, I think more padding and gel or cushioned saddles could worsen the problem. The issue is restriction of blood flow and I'm not sure that is alleviated with padding. For example, my saddle has almost no padding and I think that is actually one of the reasons I don't experience numbness.
     
Loading...
Loading...