Laughing my ass off



How's this for unbiased scoring:

Some kinda mens gymnastics/acrobatics/whatever
According to the commentator, the performance was ``badly flawed''

4 judges:
Judge 1 8 points
Judge 2 6 points
Judge 3 6 points
Judge 4 2 points

No prizes for guessing (a) which judge was from the competitor's home country
(b) which judge has a Pocket Full of Roubles for making sure some other nation
wins

:)

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>Date: 8/16/2004 8:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time


>How's this for unbiased scoring:
>
>Some kinda mens gymnastics/acrobatics/whatever
>According to the commentator, the performance was ``badly flawed''
>
>4 judges:
>Judge 1 8 points
>Judge 2 6 points
>Judge 3 6 points
>Judge 4 2 points
>
>No prizes for guessing (a) which judge was from the competitor's home country
>(b) which judge has a Pocket Full of Roubles for making sure some other
>nation
>wins
>
>:)


We should have a pool on which country's judges will get tossed out for
scoring "sports" which are "artistic" after taking bribes, or making deals.
Do they even let Korean's N or S "judge" boxing anymore?
Bill C
 
No activity that requires judging should be in the Olympics. Only sports
where you finish first, go the greatest distance or wins without question,
i.e., the opponent drops from fatigue, is out cold or dead.

Ken


<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> How's this for unbiased scoring:
>
> Some kinda mens gymnastics/acrobatics/whatever
> According to the commentator, the performance was ``badly flawed''
>
> 4 judges:
> Judge 1 8 points
> Judge 2 6 points
> Judge 3 6 points
> Judge 4 2 points
>
> No prizes for guessing (a) which judge was from the competitor's home

country
> (b) which judge has a Pocket Full of Roubles for making sure some other

nation
> wins
>
> :)
>
> --
> le Vent a Dos, Davey Crockett
> Six Day Site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html
 
"IMKen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No activity that requires judging should be in the Olympics. Only sports
> where you finish first, go the greatest distance or wins without question,
> i.e., the opponent drops from fatigue, is out cold or dead.
>
> Ken
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>

news:877jryocb8.fsf@cpe00024481c080-cm0f2069983361.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > How's this for unbiased scoring:
> >
> > Some kinda mens gymnastics/acrobatics/whatever
> > According to the commentator, the performance was ``badly flawed''
> >
> > 4 judges:
> > Judge 1 8 points
> > Judge 2 6 points
> > Judge 3 6 points
> > Judge 4 2 points
> >
> > No prizes for guessing (a) which judge was from the competitor's home

> country
> > (b) which judge has a Pocket Full of Roubles for making sure some other

> nation
> > wins
> >
> > :)
> >
> > --
> > le Vent a Dos, Davey Crockett
> > Six Day Site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html

>
>


I always thought ski jumping had an interesting system. Not only do you
have to throw your body 90 meters down a cliff without a parachute ... you
have to come up with a certain number of style points, too.

Yes, indeed, Mr. Bettini ... you did cross the finish line first, but we
didn't like the way you were holding your mouth up that last ascent. The
judge from Portugal only gave you a 7.5 and so it looks like you get the
silver medal.

Bob C.
 
Amen to that. I can't understand how an athlete can place his \ her fate in
the hands of (effectively) subjective judges.
It would be cool if a hardcore development team could come up with a
software analysis package that would objectively score. Man, that would be
a fair number of lines of code...

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http://agc-pc.tripod.com
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"IMKen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No activity that requires judging should be in the Olympics. Only sports
> where you finish first, go the greatest distance or wins without question,
> i.e., the opponent drops from fatigue, is out cold or dead.
>
> Ken
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>

news:877jryocb8.fsf@cpe00024481c080-cm0f2069983361.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > How's this for unbiased scoring:
> >
> > Some kinda mens gymnastics/acrobatics/whatever
> > According to the commentator, the performance was ``badly flawed''
> >
> > 4 judges:
> > Judge 1 8 points
> > Judge 2 6 points
> > Judge 3 6 points
> > Judge 4 2 points
> >
> > No prizes for guessing (a) which judge was from the competitor's home

> country
> > (b) which judge has a Pocket Full of Roubles for making sure some other

> nation
> > wins
> >
> > :)
> >
> > --
> > le Vent a Dos, Davey Crockett
> > Six Day Site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html

>
>
 
"IMKen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No activity that requires judging should be in the Olympics. Only

sports
> where you finish first, go the greatest distance or wins without

question,
> i.e., the opponent drops from fatigue, is out cold or dead.
>
> Ken


I've been the victim of many a biased judging in my piano competitions.
Many have been blatantly obviously, including this year's state comp,
where I was clearly 1st.
 
"psycholist" <[email protected]> wrote in message > >
>
> I always thought ski jumping had an interesting system. Not only do you
> have to throw your body 90 meters down a cliff without a parachute ... you
> have to come up with a certain number of style points, too.
>


It's not a cliff.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/longterm/olympics1998/sport/nordic/articles/jump.htm
Skiers are often not more than 10 feet in the air during the jump, as their
flight curve follows that of the hill. Participants earn points based on
distance and form.

http://www.sofiendalskolen.dk/Comenius/Finland/urhkesk3.jpg

I've actually seen this one myself! (Coincidentally, at the same stage race
when the whole peloton stopped to take a leak.)
 
[email protected] wrote:

> How's this for unbiased scoring:
>
> Some kinda mens gymnastics/acrobatics/whatever
> According to the commentator, the performance was ``badly flawed''


The boxing is worse.
 
"IMKen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No activity that requires judging should be in the Olympics. Only sports
> where you finish first, go the greatest distance or wins without question,
> i.e., the opponent drops from fatigue, is out cold or dead.


Yup.
 
Carl Sundquist wrote:
> "psycholist" <[email protected]> wrote in message > >
>
>>I always thought ski jumping had an interesting system. Not only do you
>>have to throw your body 90 meters down a cliff without a parachute ... you
>>have to come up with a certain number of style points, too.
>>

>
>
> It's not a cliff.


It just looks like one from the top. (If you visit SLC, the
athlete-guided tour of the Utah Olympic Park is recommended. Don't do a
self-tour of the place, pay for the real tour.)

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a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it
could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater
instability." George Bush Sr. in his 1998 book "A World Transformed"
 
> Davey_Crockett wrote:
>
>> How's this for unbiased scoring:
>>
>> Some kinda mens gymnastics/acrobatics/whatever
>> According to the commentator, the performance was ``badly flawed''


Stewart Fleming wrote:
> The boxing is worse.


Perhaps our own rbr boxing champ might even have a chance if we can muster
up enough dinero to bribe the judges, although I'm not sure if the IOC
would allow him to flog the fight videos even if it was for charity.
 
psycholist wrote:
> I always thought ski jumping had an interesting system. Not only do you
> have to throw your body 90 meters down a cliff without a parachute ... you
> have to come up with a certain number of style points, too.
>
> Yes, indeed, Mr. Bettini ... you did cross the finish line first, but we
> didn't like the way you were holding your mouth up that last ascent. The
> judge from Portugal only gave you a 7.5 and so it looks like you get the
> silver medal.


Do you get style points for elegance when giving your federation the
finger ?
 
"Raptor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Carl Sundquist wrote:
> > "psycholist" <[email protected]> wrote in message > >
> >
> >>I always thought ski jumping had an interesting system. Not only do you
> >>have to throw your body 90 meters down a cliff without a parachute ...

you
> >>have to come up with a certain number of style points, too.
> >>

> >
> >
> > It's not a cliff.

>
> It just looks like one from the top. (If you visit SLC, the
> athlete-guided tour of the Utah Olympic Park is recommended. Don't do a
> self-tour of the place, pay for the real tour.)


Yeah, I know. Virtually all the camera angles are quite deceptive.
 
Donald Munro <[email protected]> writes:

>
> Do you get style points for elegance when giving your federation the
> finger ?


Jeannie did, metaphorically at every chance she got.

Didn't do her any harm.

Why is it that every budding Power Hungry Would-Be Politico Candidate for any
Office Under the Sun talks about ``WE'' whilst out Lying to the Voterz and
Stuffing the Ballot Boxes to get enough votes to get Elected, and then
once having got their Fat Ass firmly seated in whatever Chair/Bench/Seat they
Coveted, and their Snout and both Trotterz firmly embedded into whatever
Trough their Chair/Bench/Seat gives them access to, some elemental
mathematical Division gets magically applied to the ``WE'' so that it becomes
``US'' and ``THEM'' ?

Way to go Judith.

Davey is proud of you. The Wankerz need somebody to shout
``Skatos'' in their ear more often.

--
le Vent a Dos, Davey Crockett
Six Day Site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html
 
Stewart Fleming wrote:

>
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> How's this for unbiased scoring:
>>
>> Some kinda mens gymnastics/acrobatics/whatever
>> According to the commentator, the performance was ``badly flawed''

>
>
> The boxing is worse.
>


I found it rather disturbing to watch olympic boxing, years back. Most
international boxing counts on scoring points, not so much on knocking
the opponenet out. Obviously a knocked-out oppoenent is unlikely to be
able to continue so they award the victory to the guy who clobbered him.
For the most part it was watching finesse athelets get the **** beat
out of them by american street thugs -- though Cuba usually did pretty
well themselves, without sinking to the level of "must kill opponent"
Who was that great cuban who never lost? Teofilo Stevenson?
 
In article <[email protected]>, Raptor
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Carl Sundquist wrote:
> > "psycholist" <[email protected]> wrote in message > >
> >
> >>I always thought ski jumping had an interesting system. Not only do you
> >>have to throw your body 90 meters down a cliff without a parachute ... you
> >>have to come up with a certain number of style points, too.
> >>

> >
> >
> > It's not a cliff.

>
> It just looks like one from the top. (If you visit SLC, the
> athlete-guided tour of the Utah Olympic Park is recommended. Don't do a
> self-tour of the place, pay for the real tour.)


My wife and I watched the ski jumping there in the Olympics. It was the
most interesting event of all, except maybe luge. Cliff or not, it is a
very steep hill to go flying over and the runout area is like a bowl
below normal ground level.

-WG
 
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:25:11 GMT, warren <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Raptor
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Carl Sundquist wrote:
>> > "psycholist" <[email protected]> wrote in message > >
>> >
>> >>I always thought ski jumping had an interesting system. Not only do you
>> >>have to throw your body 90 meters down a cliff without a parachute ... you
>> >>have to come up with a certain number of style points, too.


>> >
>> > It's not a cliff.

>>
>> It just looks like one from the top. (If you visit SLC, the
>> athlete-guided tour of the Utah Olympic Park is recommended. Don't do a
>> self-tour of the place, pay for the real tour.)

>
>My wife and I watched the ski jumping there in the Olympics. It was the
>most interesting event of all, except maybe luge. Cliff or not, it is a
>very steep hill to go flying over and the runout area is like a bowl
>below normal ground level.


Try nordic combined. Jumping first, then a pursuit cross-country ski
race later, with the time gaps in the pursuit set up via points from
the jumping (winner of jumping goes first).

JT

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In article <[email protected]>,
Richard Adams <[email protected]> wrote:

> Who was that great cuban who never lost? Teofilo Stevenson?


Teofilio Stevenson was one - Felix Savon was another Cuban who got three
golds in the heavy class. (No Idea why I can remember that info - I can't
stand boxing.)

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Howard

So far, so good, so what?

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
 
In article <[email protected]>, John Forrest
Tomlinson <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:25:11 GMT, warren <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>, Raptor
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Carl Sundquist wrote:
> >> > "psycholist" <[email protected]> wrote in message > >
> >> >
> >> >>I always thought ski jumping had an interesting system. Not only do you
> >> >>have to throw your body 90 meters down a cliff without a parachute ...
> >> >>you
> >> >>have to come up with a certain number of style points, too.

>
> >> >
> >> > It's not a cliff.
> >>
> >> It just looks like one from the top. (If you visit SLC, the
> >> athlete-guided tour of the Utah Olympic Park is recommended. Don't do a
> >> self-tour of the place, pay for the real tour.)

> >
> >My wife and I watched the ski jumping there in the Olympics. It was the
> >most interesting event of all, except maybe luge. Cliff or not, it is a
> >very steep hill to go flying over and the runout area is like a bowl
> >below normal ground level.

>
> Try nordic combined. Jumping first, then a pursuit cross-country ski
> race later, with the time gaps in the pursuit set up via points from
> the jumping (winner of jumping goes first).


I know XC skiing very well and we also watched several of those races
at the Olympics, but the jumpers in combined aren't going as far.
Standing at the bottom of the hill and seeing those guys come flying
over the edge... very cool. Great crowd reactions too.

-WG