micron said:
I suppose the Virenque that took the KoM jersey and the 2nd spot on the podium in 1997 wasn't going for the overall then? Oh, sorry, I forget that you 'Lovers of the Sainted Lance' aren't acquainted with road racing pre-1999.
Of course it's great to be able to ladle all your vitriol on Virenque - after all he's one of the 'spiteful' French. Just remember that, exactly like the Sainted Lance, Virenque never tested positive. And it's arguable that some of his finest stage wins in the Tour and his superb win in Paris-Nice were ridden clean.
Interesting that you vilify Virenque who, just to remind you, never tested positive whilst were I to attack Hamilton (who tested positive at the Olympics and the Vuelta) for being a 'spiteful' American I would be instantly flamed.
My least favourite riders are those in denial, who make a mockery of the sport they profess to love so much. I leave it to you to work out which sanctimonious riders I might be referring to.
That would be Paris-Tours, the late season sprinters classic, not to be
confused with the early season Paris-Nice stage race (for all of those people who followed cycling pre 1999). Virenque never won Paris-Nice.
Virenque was a real POS as a rider, and yes he never tested positive, but his WHOLE ****ING TEAM was kicked out of the Tour being caught with a TON of EPO (I may have even made that lot). Festing was exposed for having a systematic doping program and all the riders were found guilty. Virenque later admitted his guilt (perhaps even **** heads have a conscious).
EPO went commercial in 1989 (US FDA approval) and was used almost immediately by the Pro peleton. I happen to know this because I’ve worked in the Biotech/Pharmaceutical industry for over 15 years and am a former Amgen employee (I worked in clinical manufacturing, guess what I used to make?).
Look up Amgen, Inc. Thousand Oaks, California.
You sound like you’re from somewhere in Europe, or some third world **** hole by your contempt for Lance and your belief that your guilty until proven innocent (unless it suits your needs).
Now I’m no fan of Lance, but until there are some shreds of evidence (other that Euro tabloid trash marketed to single digit IQ socialist morons), I’ll give the guy his due, he knows how to win the Tour.
As for Tyler, I doubt you have much of a scientific background and if you look at what he’s charged with, you would begin to understand how retarded it sounds, injecting SOMEONE ELSES BLOOD into you body???
Who would do that? And for what gain? You could achieve the same results by training at altitude, using a hyperberic chamber or even using EPO (it’s undetectable after a brief period but still stimulates the growth of red blood cells).
From what I’ve read, the test methods used for detecting abnormalities on a cellular level was never correctly validated, no, I’m not a doctor, but I specialize in validating testing methods in the industry and unless you test for both POSITIVE and NEGATIVE as well as REPEATIBILITY you don’t have a valid test method (there is still the possibility of chance or untested variables).