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Edward Dolan
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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:34:20 -0500, "Arne" <[email protected]>
> wrote in message <Giyzd.3298$Tf5.771@lakeread03>:
>
>>Always top post the reply, rereading the same note at the top is boring...
>>and not necessary... we have already seen it. All we need is the reply. If
>>we need more, we can scroll down.....
>
> Unless we want to discuss on a point-by-point basis, ion which case
> interleaved quoting is the obvious and most workable solution.
>
>>Scrolling down through a couple of pages to see a one line reply is for
>>people with Alzheimer's.......
>
> And quoting the entire thread history untrimmed every time is for
> people who simply do not understand how Usenet works - this is the
> default behaviour for top-posters. I can't recall offhand a
> top-poster who trims, although I'm sure there must be one or two.
> Top-posting generally betrays either a lack of thought, a lack of
> understanding of the fundamentals if Usenet, or perhaps a user of a
> web forum which uses a Usenet group as a feed, in which case ignorance
> often leads posters to believe that the web forum /is/ the group.
>
>>For me, I can look at the subject and recall what has previously been
>>written... I don't need to see it all over again on every reply.....
>
> Lucky you. Some of us subscribe to more than one group, follow more
> than one discussion at a time, and do not check every group every day.
>
>>So, top post the reply, put the repeated **** at the bottom, where those
>>of
>>us with a usable memory can ignore it.
>
> NO! If you *must* top-post, excise the previous post altogether - or
> at least remove its antecedents. Otherwise a large amount of the
> storage used by the news server is taken up with untrimmed quoted
> text, usually including .sigs, because the people who top-post all
> seem to be Outhouse users, and Outhouse does not, by default, do any
> of the things which good practice demands.
>
> Now if Outhouse behaviour were the norm there would follow not only
> your entire previous post but the whole past thread to this point.
>
> Get OE-QuoteFix and start using Usenet properly
I so seldom have an opportunity to agree with Guy Chapman that I mustn't let
this pass. I agree with everything Guy has said above. Guy is an excellent
poster and the only criticism I have ever made of his posts is that he
sometimes edits me too severely, but many others also make this same
mistake. When it comes time to edit, if you are not sure, it is far better
to include too much than too little. That way you leave it to the reader to
decide and it is over all just fairer. Editing is an art and most of us are
not very good at it.
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Regards,
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
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> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 07:34:20 -0500, "Arne" <[email protected]>
> wrote in message <Giyzd.3298$Tf5.771@lakeread03>:
>
>>Always top post the reply, rereading the same note at the top is boring...
>>and not necessary... we have already seen it. All we need is the reply. If
>>we need more, we can scroll down.....
>
> Unless we want to discuss on a point-by-point basis, ion which case
> interleaved quoting is the obvious and most workable solution.
>
>>Scrolling down through a couple of pages to see a one line reply is for
>>people with Alzheimer's.......
>
> And quoting the entire thread history untrimmed every time is for
> people who simply do not understand how Usenet works - this is the
> default behaviour for top-posters. I can't recall offhand a
> top-poster who trims, although I'm sure there must be one or two.
> Top-posting generally betrays either a lack of thought, a lack of
> understanding of the fundamentals if Usenet, or perhaps a user of a
> web forum which uses a Usenet group as a feed, in which case ignorance
> often leads posters to believe that the web forum /is/ the group.
>
>>For me, I can look at the subject and recall what has previously been
>>written... I don't need to see it all over again on every reply.....
>
> Lucky you. Some of us subscribe to more than one group, follow more
> than one discussion at a time, and do not check every group every day.
>
>>So, top post the reply, put the repeated **** at the bottom, where those
>>of
>>us with a usable memory can ignore it.
>
> NO! If you *must* top-post, excise the previous post altogether - or
> at least remove its antecedents. Otherwise a large amount of the
> storage used by the news server is taken up with untrimmed quoted
> text, usually including .sigs, because the people who top-post all
> seem to be Outhouse users, and Outhouse does not, by default, do any
> of the things which good practice demands.
>
> Now if Outhouse behaviour were the norm there would follow not only
> your entire previous post but the whole past thread to this point.
>
> Get OE-QuoteFix and start using Usenet properly
I so seldom have an opportunity to agree with Guy Chapman that I mustn't let
this pass. I agree with everything Guy has said above. Guy is an excellent
poster and the only criticism I have ever made of his posts is that he
sometimes edits me too severely, but many others also make this same
mistake. When it comes time to edit, if you are not sure, it is far better
to include too much than too little. That way you leave it to the reader to
decide and it is over all just fairer. Editing is an art and most of us are
not very good at it.
--
Regards,
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
