Lemond needs to shut his trap!



helmutRoole2 said:
With the weight of the rider, the length and elevation of the climb, you can calculate it. Pretty sure about that.

And, I think Lemond was clean only in the sense that he didn't use EPO or blood dope.
I would like to get that formula/calculation...any ideas where?
 
Serafino said:
I bit of a hypocrite then .... to me, he's tarnishing his reputation by bashing away at LA like its some sort of vendetta. I'm sure Lemond would like to have remained (forever) as the only American TdF champion. It must sting that he's a forgotten man.

Take the high road Greg. Let's remember your years as a rider and celebrate your new carbon bikes instead of constantly commented upon your bashing and eccentric statements.
Inotherwords Greg Lemond exposes your drug cheater hypocrisy--and make you feel uncomfortable.

Great! I am 100% for embarassing doping apologists!

btw: Another fun USA steroid bust. This time in Orlando, Florida. From high school coaches to NFL football freaks. Steroids are super profable. testosterone costing $4 sold for $140. That why doping is GOOD commerce.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17368148/
 
Tim Lamkin said:
I would like to get that formula/calculation...any ideas where?
Ask around in the Tech Corner of this site. Actually, someone on this board posted a bunch of power outputs comparing hero riders from the 70s, 80s, 90s and current followed by discussion on how he derived those number among other things.
 
Serafino said:
I bit of a hypocrite then .... to me, he's tarnishing his reputation by bashing away at LA like its some sort of vendetta.
There is no evidence at all that Lemond doped. Nothing. He rode at a time when a rider could conceivably win without doping, especially someone of Lemond's talent.

It is a good thing that Lemond had the guts to stand up and call out Armstrong. He has been proven right. We need more riders to come forward and denounce the fraud that cycling has become.
 
Bro Deal said:
There is no evidence at all that Lemond doped. Nothing. He rode at a time when a rider could conceivably win without doping, especially someone of Lemond's talent.

It is a good thing that Lemond had the guts to stand up and call out Armstrong. He has been proven right. We need more riders to come forward and denounce the fraud that cycling has become.
Voices? Do I hear voices???

Voices of good, the Good Guys:
Filippo Simeoni
Christophe Bassons
Frankie Andreu
Stephen Swartz
Oscar Camenzind
Greg Lemond
Andy Hampsten
Jesper Skibby
Alex Zulle
Philippe Gaumont
***** Voet
David Walsh
Pierre Balester
Antoine Vayer
Laurent Roux
Jerome Chiotti
David Millar & Johan Museeuw---sort of, not really
Richard Virenque---but only in court
Felt_Rider

Voices of Evil, the Bad drug cheats
Lance Armstrong (Nike cheat)
Michele Ferrari, MD (Dr Evil, Dr EPO, the wizard)
Luigi Cecchini, MD
Carlo Santuccione, MD (Ali the chemist)
Inaki Arratibel
Enrico Lazzaro
Bernard Saiz (Doctor Mabuse)
Franceso Conconi, Phd
Tyler Hamilton
Floyd Landis
Jan Ulrich (#1 T-Mobile doper)
Ivan Basso (#1 CSC doper)
Bobby Julich
Bjarne Riis (Mr 60%)
Hein Verbrugen
Pat McQuaid
House

Meaningless and irrelevant voices:
Richard Pound
WADA
USADA
UCI
sports fans
Tim Lamkin
helmutroole
 
Flyer's.Finale! said:
Voices? Do I hear voices???

Voices of good, the Good Guys:
Filippo Simeoni
Christophe Bassons
Frankie Andreu
Stephen Swartz
Oscar Camenzind
Greg Lemond
Andy Hampsten
Jesper Skibby
Alex Zulle
Philippe Gaumont
***** Voet
David Walsh
Pierre Balester
Antoine Vayer
Laurent Roux
Jerome Chiotti
David Millar & Johan Museeuw---sort of, not really
Richard Virenque---but only in court

Voices of Evil, the Bad drug cheats
Lance Armstrong (Nike cheat)
Michele Ferrari, MD (Dr Evil, Dr EPO, the wizard)
Luigi Cecchini, MD
Carlo Santuccione, MD (Ali the chemist)
Inaki Arratibel
Enrico Lazzaro
Bernard Saiz (Doctor Mabuse)
Franceso Conconi, Phd
Tyler Hamilton
Floyd Landis
Jan Ulrich (#1 T-Mobile doper)
Ivan Basso (#1 CSC doper)
Bobby Julich
Bjarne Riis (Mr 60%)
Hein Verbrugen
Pat McQuaid

Meaningless and irrelevant voices:
Richard Pound
WADA
USADA
UCI
Felt_Rider
sports fans
I added myself
:D
 
Flyer's.Finale! said:
Voices? Do I hear voices???

Voices of good, the Good Guys:
Filippo Simeoni
Christophe Bassons
Frankie Andreu
Stephen Swartz
Oscar Camenzind
Greg Lemond
Andy Hampsten
Jesper Skibby
Alex Zulle
Philippe Gaumont
***** Voet
David Walsh
Pierre Balester
Antoine Vayer
Laurent Roux
Jerome Chiotti
David Millar & Johan Museeuw---sort of, not really
Richard Virenque---but only in court
Felt_Rider

Voices of Evil, the Bad drug cheats
Lance Armstrong (Nike cheat)
Michele Ferrari, MD (Dr Evil, Dr EPO, the wizard)
Luigi Cecchini, MD
Carlo Santuccione, MD (Ali the chemist)
Inaki Arratibel
Enrico Lazzaro
Bernard Saiz (Doctor Mabuse)
Franceso Conconi, Phd
Tyler Hamilton
Floyd Landis
Jan Ulrich (#1 T-Mobile doper)
Ivan Basso (#1 CSC doper)
Bobby Julich
Bjarne Riis (Mr 60%)
Hein Verbrugen
Pat McQuaid
House

Meaningless and irrelevant voices:
Richard Pound
WADA
USADA
UCI
sports fans
Tim Lamkin
helmutroole
I revised the voice roster for better tone. A cocophony of doping music.
 
Flyer's.Finale! said:
Voices? Do I hear voices???
Voices of good, the Good Guy:
Felt_Rider

Voices of Evil, the Bad drug cheats
Meaningless and irrelevant voices:
sports fans
Tim Lamkin
helmutroole
Martin Jackson is pretty insulted at being off the list. So am I.
It's a race to see who gets your skanky old liver first.
 
Flyer's.Finale! said:
I revised the voice roster for better tone. A cocophony of doping music.
I have no doubt you hear voices, that's what people like you do, hear voices and rant on and on hoping for validation.

How is your "career" in cycling...still touting those field sprint wins in lower cats?

Still training young riders and then encouraging them to go to what you proclaim as the 100% doped pro peloton?

Still claiming to be a tough guy on the track?

Still avoiding answering questions?

How many sites have you been banned from?
 
Bro Deal said:
There is no evidence at all that Lemond doped. Nothing. He rode at a time when a rider could conceivably win without doping, especially someone of Lemond's talent.
Yeah, I don't know. I apply the rule, he who is clean can't beat those who are doped. Just jacking up the testosterone makes a huge difference. Throw in deca and a few others...

I wonder what FF thinks about this?

Oh, if I didn't have him on my ignore list I'd know.
 
Bro Deal said:
Probably a better resource is analyticcycling.com. They have information on the formulae they use plus a lot of other forms that allow you calculate other cycling related things.
Analyticcycling.com is down at the moment, :mad: .
 
House said:
I have no doubt you hear voices, that's what people like you do, hear voices and rant on and on hoping for validation.

How is your "career" in cycling...still touting those field sprint wins in lower cats?

Still training young riders and then encouraging them to go to what you proclaim as the 100% doped pro peloton?

Still claiming to be a tough guy on the track?


Still avoiding answering questions?

How many sites have you been banned from?
We already know he is not a real racer, admitted that himself, if he is a CAT 5...or 4 remains to be seen.
 
Flyer's.Finale! said:
Voices? Do I hear voices???

Voices of good, the Good Guys:
Filippo Simeoni
Christophe Bassons
Frankie Andreu
Stephen Swartz
Oscar Camenzind
Greg Lemond
Andy Hampsten
Jesper Skibby
Alex Zulle
Philippe Gaumont
***** Voet
David Walsh
Pierre Balester
Antoine Vayer
Laurent Roux
Jerome Chiotti
David Millar & Johan Museeuw---sort of, not really
Richard Virenque---but only in court
Felt_Rider

Voices of Evil, the Bad drug cheats
Lance Armstrong (Nike cheat)
Michele Ferrari, MD (Dr Evil, Dr EPO, the wizard)
Luigi Cecchini, MD
Carlo Santuccione, MD (Ali the chemist)
Inaki Arratibel
Enrico Lazzaro
Bernard Saiz (Doctor Mabuse)
Franceso Conconi, Phd
Tyler Hamilton
Floyd Landis
Jan Ulrich (#1 T-Mobile doper)
Ivan Basso (#1 CSC doper)
Bobby Julich
Bjarne Riis (Mr 60%)
Hein Verbrugen
Pat McQuaid
House

Meaningless and irrelevant voices:
Richard Pound
WADA
USADA
UCI
sports fans
Tim Lamkin
helmutroole
Timmy, did I hear little Timmy?
 
Tim Lamkin said:
We already know he is not a real racer, admitted that himself, if he is a CAT 5...or 4 remains to be seen.
In his previous life on this forum and other he made grandiose claims about his racing, but was found out (his bio touting his field sprint wins in CAT 4 or 5 was pretty funny). One of the reasons he was banned before (besides the obvious) was his making threats at posters including threating to get me on the track and hurt me physically...yet when I told him a track to meet me at he never replied. Not surprising.