Liggett: "...In excess of 60 MPH"

[Tony Austn]

I have never been able to hit 60 mph on a bike - did Jan and Lance actually go faster than 60
miles an hour?

Also. CBS needs to turn down the John Tesh music in the back ground

 

[Jiyang Chen]

Perhaps 60 kph? I see them pedaling during the descents, but their top gear is 53x11, and you have
to spin them really really fast to reach 60mph.

Jiyang

"Tony Austn" <[email protected]_screw_spam> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have never been able to hit 60 mph on a bike - did Jan and Lance actually go faster than 60
> miles an hour?
>
> Also. CBS needs to turn down the John Tesh music in the back ground

 

[Tony Austn]

Liggett said "...in EXCESS of 60 miles per hour". Have any of you gone 60 miles an hour on 700
x 23 tires?

In article <[email protected]>, "Jiyang Chen" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Perhaps 60 kph? I see them pedaling during the descents, but their top gear is 53x11, and you have
> to spin them really really fast to reach 60mph.
>
> Jiyang
>
> "Tony Austn" <[email protected]_screw_spam> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I have never been able to hit 60 mph on a bike - did Jan and Lance actually go faster than 60
> > miles an hour?
> >
> > Also. CBS needs to turn down the John Tesh music in the back ground

 

[Ewoud Dronkert]

On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:02:48 GMT, Tony Austn wrote:
>Liggett said "...in EXCESS of 60 miles per hour". Have any of you gone 60 miles an hour on 700 x
>23 tires?

Yes.

 

[Antti Salonen]

Tony Austn <[email protected]_screw_spam> wrote:

> I have never been able to hit 60 mph on a bike - did Jan and Lance actually go faster than 60
> miles an hour?

In the Eurosport coverage the commentator said that the highest speed recorded in this year's Tour
was 92 km/h. That's about 60 mph. I don't think it's unbelievable at all, as I've went about 70 km/h
down a hill myself, and my neighbourhood is generally no more than 100 metres from sea-level. On a
steep mountain descent in a good aero position, 90 km/h sounds credible.

-as

 

[Bill Davidson]

Jiyang Chen wrote:
> Perhaps 60 kph? I see them pedaling during the descents, but their top gear is 53x11, and you have
> to spin them really really fast to reach 60mph.

53-11 120 rpm's is about 45 mph which would imply 160 rpm's would be 60 mph. The Alps and the
Pyrenees are very steep. Trying to maintain 160 rpm's is probably less productive at that speed than
just getting in a tight tuck and coasting.

--Bill Davidson
--
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I'm a 17 year veteran of usenet -- you'd think I'd be over it by now

 

[Henry]

59.5

"Tony Austn" <[email protected]_screw_spam> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Liggett said "...in EXCESS of 60 miles per hour". Have any of you gone 60 miles an hour on 700 x
> 23 tires?
>
> In article <[email protected]>, "Jiyang Chen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Perhaps 60 kph? I see them pedaling during the descents, but their top
gear
> > is 53x11, and you have to spin them really really fast to reach 60mph.
> >
> > Jiyang
> >
> > "Tony Austn" <[email protected]_screw_spam> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I have never been able to hit 60 mph on a bike - did Jan and Lance actually go faster than 60
> > > miles an hour?
> > >
> > > Also. CBS needs to turn down the John Tesh music in the back ground
> >

 

[Stewart Fleming]

Tony Austn wrote:
> Liggett said "...in EXCESS of 60 miles per hour". Have any of you gone 60 miles an hour on 700 x
> 23 tires?

102kph down the Tourmalet in 1995, overtaking a German camper van, yes.

 

[Guess Who]

"Antti Salonen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tony Austn <[email protected]_screw_spam> wrote:
>
> > I have never been able to hit 60 mph on a bike - did Jan and Lance actually go faster than 60
> > miles an hour?
>
> In the Eurosport coverage the commentator said that the highest speed recorded in this year's Tour
> was 92 km/h. That's about 60 mph. I don't think it's unbelievable at all, as I've went about 70
> km/h down a hill myself, and my neighbourhood is generally no more than 100 metres from sea-level.
> On a steep mountain descent in a good aero position, 90 km/h sounds credible.
>
> -as

I went down an incline (sure couldn't call it a hill) in Florida at over 55 mph. I weighed much more
than competitive cyclists, and there were absolutely no turns. I can believe that Tour pros could go
well over 60 mph on a mountain downhill.

 

[Jeff Jones]

"Tony Austn" <[email protected]_screw_spam> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Liggett said "...in EXCESS of 60 miles per hour". Have any of you gone 60 miles an hour on 700 x
> 23 tires?
>
Yes.

Jeff

 

[Swj]

60 mph is very possible. by myself, after being dropped and during the 'latch back on' period I
pounded my brains out in a 53x12 and hit 55mph. and this is me, a low level amateur, that we are
talking about, so I have no doubt that 60+ mph is possible on a steep long descent in the Alps or
Pyrenees. btw, i believe that motorbike riders have been quoted as saying that Paolo Salvodelli
commonly hits 110-120k's on straight downhill sections, thats nearly 80 mph, so yeah i think its
well within the limits of pros to do the latter.

60 kph ? they do 70k's in a sprint !

shawn

 

[Earle Self]

I've been (roughly - auto speedometer) timed at 55mph, coming down off Newfound Gap in the Smokies.
I don't think 60mph would be out of reach at all for the pros...

On 27 Jul 2003 19:34:25 GMT, Antti Salonen <[email protected]> wrote:

>Tony Austn <[email protected]_screw_spam> wrote:
>
>> I have never been able to hit 60 mph on a bike - did Jan and Lance actually go faster than 60
>> miles an hour?
>
>In the Eurosport coverage the commentator said that the highest speed recorded in this year's Tour
>was 92 km/h. That's about 60 mph. I don't think it's unbelievable at all, as I've went about 70
>km/h down a hill myself, and my neighbourhood is generally no more than 100 metres from sea-level.
>On a steep mountain descent in a good aero position, 90 km/h sounds credible.
>
>-as

 

[lazysegall]

Originally posted by Earle Self
I've been (roughly - auto speedometer) timed at 55mph, coming down off Newfound Gap in the Smokies.
I don't think 60mph would be out of reach at all for the pros...

On 27 Jul 2003 19:34:25 GMT, Antti Salonen <[email protected]> wrote:

>Tony Austn <[email protected]_screw_spam> wrote:
>
>> I have never been able to hit 60 mph on a bike - did Jan and Lance actually go faster than 60
>> miles an hour?
>
>In the Eurosport coverage the commentator said that the highest speed recorded in this year's Tour
>was 92 km/h. That's about 60 mph. I don't think it's unbelievable at all, as I've went about 70
>km/h down a hill myself, and my neighbourhood is generally no more than 100 metres from sea-level.
>On a steep mountain descent in a good aero position, 90 km/h sounds credible.
>
>-as

If memory serves me right, in one of last years giro TTs riders were going 110 Km/h down hill.

 

[Dashi Toshii]

"swj" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 60 mph is very possible. by myself, after being dropped and during the 'latch back on' period I
> pounded my brains out in a 53x12 and hit 55mph. and this is me, a low level amateur,

That's amazing, what brand of cycling computer do you use and how do you calibrate it?

Dashii

 

[Jiyang Chen]

Yeah, but when they descend I always see them pedalling, and they are NOT pedalling 160 rpm.

Jiyang

"Bill Davidson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:ixWUa.28310$Ne.27493@fed1read03...
> Jiyang Chen wrote:
> > Perhaps 60 kph? I see them pedaling during the descents, but their top
gear
> > is 53x11, and you have to spin them really really fast to reach 60mph.
>
> 53-11 120 rpm's is about 45 mph which would imply 160 rpm's would be 60 mph. The Alps and the
> Pyrenees are very steep. Trying to maintain 160 rpm's is probably less productive at that speed
> than just getting in a tight tuck and coasting.
>
> --Bill Davidson
> --
> Please remove ".nospam" from my address for email replies.
>
> I'm a 17 year veteran of usenet -- you'd think I'd be over it by now

 

[Daniel Connelly]

Look at the rider logs on http://www.polar.fi/ -- you won't find any examples of 100kph.

Granted, these guys aren't GC threats, but even riders in the bus need to make time on descents.

Dan

Tony Austn wrote:
> I have never been able to hit 60 mph on a bike - did Jan and Lance actually go faster than 60
> miles an hour?
>
> Also. CBS needs to turn down the John Tesh music in the back ground

 

[Tony Austn]

I can't pedal past 45 KPH if that.

Tony

In article <[email protected]>, "Jiyang Chen" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah, but when they descend I always see them pedalling, and they are NOT pedalling 160 rpm.
>
>
> Jiyang
>
> "Bill Davidson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:ixWUa.28310$Ne.27493@fed1read03...
> > Jiyang Chen wrote:
> > > Perhaps 60 kph? I see them pedaling during the descents, but their top
> gear
> > > is 53x11, and you have to spin them really really fast to reach 60mph.
> >
> > 53-11 120 rpm's is about 45 mph which would imply 160 rpm's would be 60 mph. The Alps and the
> > Pyrenees are very steep. Trying to maintain 160 rpm's is probably less productive at that speed
> > than just getting in a tight tuck and coasting.
> >
> > --Bill Davidson
> > --
> > Please remove ".nospam" from my address for email replies.
> >
> > I'm a 17 year veteran of usenet -- you'd think I'd be over it by now
> >

 

[Andrew Swan]

> I went down an incline (sure couldn't call it a hill) in Florida at over 55 mph. I weighed much
> more than competitive cyclists, and there were absolutely no turns. I can believe that Tour pros
> could go well over 60 mph on a mountain downhill.
>
Are you implying that weight makes a difference to descending speed? Isn't "g" (acceleration due to
gravity) a constant 9.8m/s^2 regardless of mass?

I'm over 90kg and seem to descend faster than some fellow riders, but I always thought this was due
to all sorts of other factors such as position, quality/state of wheel bearings, etc.

I'd like to think there was some benefit to being heavier, because it sure sucks going *up* hill,
but do you have any evidence for it?

&roo

 

[G]

Andrew Swan <[email protected]> wrote:

> > I went down an incline (sure couldn't call it a hill) in Florida at over 55 mph. I weighed much
> > more than competitive cyclists, and there were absolutely no turns. I can believe that Tour pros
> > could go well over 60 mph on a mountain downhill.
> >
> Are you implying that weight makes a difference to descending speed?

Yes, he is.

> Isn't "g" (acceleration due to gravity) a constant 9.8m/s^2 regardless of mass?

g FORCE (as opposed to acceleration) is proportional to weight, but wind resistance is not. So
heavier riders descend faster.

GK

 

[Andrew Swan]

<snip>
> g FORCE (as opposed to acceleration) is proportional to weight, but wind resistance is not. So
> heavier riders descend faster.
>
> GK

I see - thanks. Off to eat some more pies now, to train for my next descent!

Actually I read a compelling article about how increasing your climbing speed by "x" km/h (or mph in
bastions of Imperialism) is much better than increasing your descending speed by the same amount (or
even twice as much), since you spend so much more time climbing than descending (on an out-and-back
course, of course). Now, where are those pies...

&roo