Liggett: "...In excess of 60 MPH"

[Bret Wade]

"Clovis Lark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Kurgan Gringioni <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > "Clovis Lark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >> Kurgan Gringioni <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'm not questioning the quality of French culture. I am pointing out
the
> >> > lack of relevance of the French culture in era of globalization and
how
> > it
> >> > hurts their pride in that they would like to view themselves as the
best
> > and
> >> > therefore most relevant.
> >>
> >> And I was pointing out the very areas where the French have been
leaders
> >> globally, or do you not know of the numbers of Japanese chefs
apprenticing
> >> in France's elite restaurants to provide replicated french haute
cuisine
> >> in Tokyo?
>
>
>
> > Fine then, the French have the "best" cuisine (although this is very subjective) and the most
> > competitive bike race.
>
> > Globally, their culture is otherwise diminishing in relevance.
>
> I doubt you can document this. First, you'll need to show where their culture grew outside France
> and then you'll show us how it's lost its relevance. You might have a point in Algeria, but
> elsewhere, including Morocco, West Africa, Quebec, I doubt you'll find much. It even hangs on in
> Vietnam.

It used to be prevalent in those places, but now is in decline. The French Empire has been for
some time.

 

[Dashi Toshii]

"Bret Wade" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [email protected] (Pete Harris) wrote in message
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> > People,
> >
> Good points. What worries me are the deer. Here in Boulder, it seems that every year or so,
> someone gets seriously injured after hitting a deer on a descent.

Do the deer get injured?

Dashii

 

[Jiyang Chen]

What am I doing wrong? What's the correct position for this downhill tuck? I slide back on the
saddle, and lower my front body as low as I can until my chin is almost touching the handlebar. By
the way I'm really light, so that may be a factor here.

"Raptor" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Jiyang Chen wrote:
> > About how steep a hill do you have to ride to get to 60mph? The hills
they
> > descend averages 7-9 percent usually. maximum I've gone is 46 mph at a
12%
> > grade, and the speed tends to stop about there even though I get in the aero tuck and coast.
> >
> > Jiyang
>
> You're doing something wrong then, unless you don't have enough straight road to maintain your
> tuck. Give me a straight 12% road and I'll break 60, I bet. I hit 56.2 on a 7-ish% with a great
> tailwind last year (and a slightly generous computer).
>
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[Raptor]

Jiyang Chen wrote:
> What am I doing wrong? What's the correct position for this downhill tuck? I slide back on the
> saddle, and lower my front body as low as I can until my chin is almost touching the handlebar. By
> the way I'm really light, so that may be a factor here.

Well, I'm clearly not an expert on it, so I dunno. You need to minimize your frontal area, and when
you can't, try to smooth the airflow around you. Bring your knees in, maybe try forming a smooth
contour with your hands and fingers to help the air around your head and shoulder, tuck your elbows
in, play with your foot angle to get air around your shins. The contour of your back might be a drag
factor as well, so bow or straighten it. You should be able to sense the drag on your skin, just try
to find the sticky areas and slick them up.

I suspect the biggest drag in a tuck comes from your head/helmet, your pelvis, your shoulders and
your feet. You've already minimized the big scoop of your chest by tucking flat, so it has to be
one of those.

My problem is finding a road long enough to conduct these experiments, and the fact that getting to
said roads requires long bouts of climbing, which are very slow for some of us.

Oh, and wear aerodynamic clothing light a tight jersey

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could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP in
charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

 

[Bret Wade]

Dashi Toshii wrote:
> "Bret Wade" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>[email protected] (Pete Harris) wrote in message
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>>>People,
>>>
>>
>>Good points. What worries me are the deer. Here in Boulder, it seems that every year or so,
>>someone gets seriously injured after hitting a deer on a descent.
>
>
> Do the deer get injured?
>
> Dashii
>
>

No injuries worth mentioning.

Bret

 

[Richard Adams]

Usually trying to keep an eye out for cars, squirrels, surfers, etc., but did glance down at the
odometer descending Highway 1 to Scott Creek (between Half Moon Bay and Santa Cruz) to see I'd hit
55 MPH, easily. At that speed I just move into the middle of the lane, as I'm going as fast as
traffic anyway.

Tony Austn <[email protected]_screw_spam> wrote in message
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> Liggett said "...in EXCESS of 60 miles per hour". Have any of you gone 60 miles an hour on 700 x
> 23 tires?
>
> In article <[email protected]>, "Jiyang Chen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Perhaps 60 kph? I see them pedaling during the descents, but their top gear is 53x11, and you
> > have to spin them really really fast to reach 60mph.
> >
> > Jiyang
> >
> > "Tony Austn" <[email protected]_screw_spam> wrote in message
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> > > I have never been able to hit 60 mph on a bike - did Jan and Lance actually go faster than 60
> > > miles an hour?
> > >
> > > Also. CBS needs to turn down the John Tesh music in the back ground
> >

 

[Remove The Poli]

[email protected] (Hardman Knott) wrote in message
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> "guess who" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > I went down an incline (sure couldn't call it a hill) in Florida at over 55 mph. I weighed much
> > more than competitive cyclists, and there were absolutely no turns. I can believe that Tour pros
> > could go well over 60 >mph on a mountain downhill.
>
> I hit 58.5 MPH on a *city street* in San Francisco.

Hey can I go riding with you? I live in bay area; I'll can follow you and you can take out the cars
ahead of me...

 

[Precious Pup]

Raptor wrote:
>
> Jiyang Chen wrote:
> > About how steep a hill do you have to ride to get to 60mph? The hills they descend averages 7-9
> > percent usually. maximum I've gone is 46 mph at a 12% grade, and the speed tends to stop about
> > there even though I get in the aero tuck and coast.
> >
> > Jiyang
>
> You're doing something wrong then, unless you don't have enough straight road to maintain your
> tuck. Give me a straight 12% road and I'll break 60, I bet. I hit 56.2 on a 7-ish% with a great
> tailwind last year (and a slightly generous computer).

The tailwind can mean a lot. You won't go 56.2 mph down a 7% grade with no wind pushing you.