"Liz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:11:47 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> in
> news message <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> [----]
>
> >And I am sure the climber would have preferred not to saw off his arm but
he
> >did what he had to do.
>
> The difference between our views is that you seem to see a divorce and
> an amputation as things that happen to people. This is a victim
> mentality.
>
> I see (some) divorces and, in Ralston's case, an amputation as life
> affirming decisions made to enhance the quality and quantity of one's
> life. Ralston took control of his life. He wasn't a victim. He
> wasn't even a survivor. He had a victor's mentality.
>
Another option is the winner's mentality and that is to make excellent
decisions at crucial moments. That is, make the decision to hike with a
friend and let people know when you are coming back, marry smartly ect. Why
have the losers mentality and make stupid decisions?
> I guess one's viewpoint on divorce depends on how one sees life,
> whether things are beyond one's control or whether one can actually
> make decisions that make improvements One can either bemoan one's
> fate as a necessary evil or one can live life to the fullest even with
> only one arm. I choose the latter.
>
> YMMV
>
>
> Liz #658 BAAWA
>
> The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that
> their interests and his own are the same -- Stendhal
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:41:45 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >
> >"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> I like how "leaving one's spouse" equates to "leaving one's whole
> >> family" in some people's minds. Bigots to their narrow-minded little
> >> cores.
> >
> >Leaving a spouse sure as hell rarely makes it easier for the kids.
>
> Shall we discuss the plentiful cases where staying together makes it
> even _more_ difficult than splitting up? :-?
Or the cases where someone pulled their head out of their ass and started
acting like an adult in a marriage?
> --
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
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"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:41:45 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >
> >"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> I like how "leaving one's spouse" equates to "leaving one's whole
> >> family" in some people's minds. Bigots to their narrow-minded little
> >> cores.
> >
> >Leaving a spouse sure as hell rarely makes it easier for the kids.
>
> Shall we discuss the plentiful cases where staying together makes it
> even _more_ difficult than splitting up? :-?
Or the cases where someone pulled their head out of their ass and started
acting like an adult in a marriage?
> --
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:41:45 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >
> >"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> I like how "leaving one's spouse" equates to "leaving one's whole
> >> family" in some people's minds. Bigots to their narrow-minded little
> >> cores.
> >
> >Leaving a spouse sure as hell rarely makes it easier for the kids.
>
> Shall we discuss the plentiful cases where staying together makes it
> even _more_ difficult than splitting up? :-?
Or the cases where someone pulled their head out of their ass and started
acting like an adult in a marriage?
> --
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:41:45 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> I like how "leaving one's spouse" equates to "leaving one's whole
> >> family" in some people's minds. Bigots to their narrow-minded little
> >> cores.
> >
> >Leaving a spouse sure as hell rarely makes it easier for the kids.
>
> Shall we discuss the plentiful cases where staying together makes it
> even _more_ difficult than splitting up? :-?
Or the cases where someone pulled their head out of their ass and started
acting like an adult in a marriage?
> --
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:41:45 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> I like how "leaving one's spouse" equates to "leaving one's whole
> >> family" in some people's minds. Bigots to their narrow-minded little
> >> cores.
> >
> >Leaving a spouse sure as hell rarely makes it easier for the kids.
>
> Shall we discuss the plentiful cases where staying together makes it
> even _more_ difficult than splitting up? :-?
Or the cases where someone pulled their head out of their ass and started
acting like an adult in a marriage?
> --
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:41:45 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> I like how "leaving one's spouse" equates to "leaving one's whole
> >> family" in some people's minds. Bigots to their narrow-minded little
> >> cores.
> >
> >Leaving a spouse sure as hell rarely makes it easier for the kids.
>
> Shall we discuss the plentiful cases where staying together makes it
> even _more_ difficult than splitting up? :-?
Or the cases where someone pulled their head out of their ass and started
acting like an adult in a marriage?
> --
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:41:45 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> I like how "leaving one's spouse" equates to "leaving one's whole
> >> family" in some people's minds. Bigots to their narrow-minded little
> >> cores.
> >
> >Leaving a spouse sure as hell rarely makes it easier for the kids.
>
> Shall we discuss the plentiful cases where staying together makes it
> even _more_ difficult than splitting up? :-?
Or the cases where someone pulled their head out of their ass and started
acting like an adult in a marriage?
> --
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:41:45 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> I like how "leaving one's spouse" equates to "leaving one's whole
> >> family" in some people's minds. Bigots to their narrow-minded little
> >> cores.
> >
> >Leaving a spouse sure as hell rarely makes it easier for the kids.
>
> Shall we discuss the plentiful cases where staying together makes it
> even _more_ difficult than splitting up? :-?
Or the cases where someone pulled their head out of their ass and started
acting like an adult in a marriage?
> --
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:54:47 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >a divorce is like an amputation, it is better than dying but it
> >isn't much fun nonetheless.
>
> Now that, I can agree with. At least in many cases, possibly even
> most. But in some cases? Divorce turns out to be an undeniably
> wonderful thing for all concerned.
So sometimes is an amputation but I wouldn't "aim for it."
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:54:47 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >a divorce is like an amputation, it is better than dying but it
> >isn't much fun nonetheless.
>
> Now that, I can agree with. At least in many cases, possibly even
> most. But in some cases? Divorce turns out to be an undeniably
> wonderful thing for all concerned.
So sometimes is an amputation but I wouldn't "aim for it."
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:54:47 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >a divorce is like an amputation, it is better than dying but it
> >isn't much fun nonetheless.
>
> Now that, I can agree with. At least in many cases, possibly even
> most. But in some cases? Divorce turns out to be an undeniably
> wonderful thing for all concerned.
So sometimes is an amputation but I wouldn't "aim for it."
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:54:47 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >a divorce is like an amputation, it is better than dying but it
> >isn't much fun nonetheless.
>
> Now that, I can agree with. At least in many cases, possibly even
> most. But in some cases? Divorce turns out to be an undeniably
> wonderful thing for all concerned.
So sometimes is an amputation but I wouldn't "aim for it."
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:54:47 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >a divorce is like an amputation, it is better than dying but it
> >isn't much fun nonetheless.
>
> Now that, I can agree with. At least in many cases, possibly even
> most. But in some cases? Divorce turns out to be an undeniably
> wonderful thing for all concerned.
So sometimes is an amputation but I wouldn't "aim for it."
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:54:47 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >a divorce is like an amputation, it is better than dying but it
> >isn't much fun nonetheless.
>
> Now that, I can agree with. At least in many cases, possibly even
> most. But in some cases? Divorce turns out to be an undeniably
> wonderful thing for all concerned.
So sometimes is an amputation but I wouldn't "aim for it."
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:54:47 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >a divorce is like an amputation, it is better than dying but it
> >isn't much fun nonetheless.
>
> Now that, I can agree with. At least in many cases, possibly even
> most. But in some cases? Divorce turns out to be an undeniably
> wonderful thing for all concerned.
So sometimes is an amputation but I wouldn't "aim for it."
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
"Uncle Buck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:54:47 -0600, "Richard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >a divorce is like an amputation, it is better than dying but it
> >isn't much fun nonetheless.
>
> Now that, I can agree with. At least in many cases, possibly even
> most. But in some cases? Divorce turns out to be an undeniably
> wonderful thing for all concerned.
So sometimes is an amputation but I wouldn't "aim for it."
> L8r,
> Uncle Buck
> _o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
> http://surrenderingtothefall.blogspot.com
> ~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o_~=O-o
