LiveStrong Foundation

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  1. LivestrongPride

    LivestrongPride New Member

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    The Tour de France is finally done, and Lance Armstrong has finished in third place! If anyone is interested in donating to his foundation, to support cancer victims, here is the link:

    LAF Grassroots Fundraising 2009 - General Donation

    Keep in mind that anything helps!

    Sincerely Yours,
    Brandon
     
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  2. bicycledick

    bicycledick New Member

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    Cancer was cured fifty years ago. You want to learn about it? www.cancercures.com www.naturalcures.com I mean it's like fifty years ago it was cured. One guy tried radio frequencies and discovered you hit a certain frquency and all cancer is gone. Now this should show you how much power big corporations have. You think the government isn't in on it? The government knows everything, but corporations have deep pockets.
    The only thing they promote is chemo and surgery. Both methods don't work in the least. If you have a huge tumor it might have to be removed, but then after that you should use food grade hydrogen peroxide to get oxygen into your body.
     
  3. steve

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    I had a quick look at the two websites you mention, my first impression was they lack credibility. Maybe you can point us toward some studies they've done or papers published in pubmed?

     
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    When you start with food grade hydrogen peroxide you use one drop to an ounce of water. Then you might progress to two drops to an ounce. Sure if someone uses it wrong and sits in a bathtub with a high concentration of hydrogen peroxide thay could harm themselves. Hydrogen peroxide is highly concentrated with oxygen molecules. It's only water and oxygen is all it is. But it's dangerous if not used right. So one drop to an ounce should tell you the stuff is powerful. I went to a web site and this guy who uses this stuff said people e-mail him all the time asking if it would hurt to use a teaspoon to a glass of water. You might add a teaspoon to have a gallon. You can't go by what people did who didn't use it in the right way.
     
  5. bicycledick

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    You want credibility like a study by doctors? But they don't want you using things they can't make money with. The fact is cancer was cured fifty years ago. The doctors and big pharma want you to think there is no cure. Now something doesn't make sense. In fact in many cases you can just get a colon cleanse and cure cancer.
     
  6. bicycledick

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    Too many people die, because ignorant people like you advertise for the wrong people. Your actually walking around saying, we need to find a cure for cancer. Please give me your money, when cancer was cured fifty years ago. Why don't you google alternative cancer cures and learn. They shouldn't be called alternative. Your way is alternative. Your way people are relieved of their money and goes into the pockets of people who lie to people. www.cancercures.com www.naturalcures.com Tell these people that cancer wasn't cured fifty years ago and they'll send you testimonials of all the people who cured their cancer. The same government that lies baout wars and 9/11 allow these big corporations to lie to you about cancer.
     
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    The one site doesn't work, and the other wants money to "learn the secrets" so who is the one scamming the public?

    And even at that, it says: A Russian cure for breast cancer, completely eliminates the cancer in 30 days, 87% of the time.

    So, if my sweetheart gets breast cancer, I should tell her to pay money to find out about this magical herb/process and then there is only a 13% chance that she will die from breast cancer.

    No thanks, I'll take the years of research and statistics to guide a doctor, since it is showing much better results.
     
  8. alienator

    alienator Well-Known Member

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    Livestrong does a great job. Not only do they raise a lot of money, they also bring attention to cancer, and most importantly, they are a great resource for people with cancer--especially rare cancers--to find treatment. With the number of cancer varieties out there, the only way to find a cure for a given variant is to fund research, and there's never enough money to do all the research needed.

    For three weeks in July, this year, and another few in May, the Livestrong label was seen all over the world, and seen in very positive light. That exposure brings a lot of donations.
     
  9. steve

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    Kevin Trudeau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It looks like the same guy is an expert on:

    Debt Cures
    Natural Cures
    Weight Loss Cures
    Recession Cures

    I like these snippets from the linked to website :eek:

     
  10. Geoff Vadar

    Geoff Vadar New Member

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    Useless, unverifiable, abstract statement.

    Money that would otherwise not be raised? Or money that would otherwise be raised for local cancer support networks and now destined for USA?

    Please explain when the world was crying out for an awareness campaign for cancer? Answer: Never. Governments all around the world were already heavily invested either directly or indirectly in research, support networks and coordinated communication channels for all vested parties.

    Again who was crying out for this? Are you suggesting that our top specialists in the various fields of cancer treatments have been utterly negligent in their due diligence and disclosure obligations to patients throughout the treatment lifecycle? Or are you suggesting people dont have internet access but do have TVs.

    If this is indeed a valid fundamental purpose of the organisation I would argue dissemination of information on digital platforms need not cost the world. Why then the global push to pull so much funding into LAF? You could reach every single new cancer patient in the world on $1mill with a leaflet and a website.


    Garbage. Drastic over simplification of the complexities or how research programs are developed, funded and performed. If the LAF were to cease existence tomorrow Governments all over the world (and all the thousands of already existing cancer based charities) would continue the drive towards a cure.

    Solving cancer is not about raising more money. Its slightly more complex than that.

    Australian's donating to USA cancer foundation is absurd. Its ridiculous. Its a redundant shuffling of money and drives no efficiencies in the fight against cancer whatsoever.

    If LAF had any sort of serious commitment to the resolution of cancer and the true support of world class research then they would of teamed up with already well established Australian cancer centres and the promotion/awareness value of his athletic endeavours would drive funding directly to well established, world class cancer research bodies.

    I mean if the prick was a real man he would just come out and say "Look I care about cancer. I suffered it and I came through. I care about the people who go through this. Please make an effort to support these people. If you believe in me then do me a favour and seek out your local cancer charity and give them $10 or whatever you can. If you cant find a local charity or research body then you can donate to my foundation as well which aims to provide better information to cancer sufferers in general."

    Thats it. I mean be fcuking real. Dont p1ss on society. He gives me the sh1ts.
     
  11. Geoff Vadar

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    Fixed.
     
  12. fitz

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    Er ...well said!
     
  13. LivestrongPride

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    Originally Posted by alienator
    Not only do they raise a lot of money,
    "Money that would otherwise not be raised? "

    Yes, money that would not otherwise be raised. Are you aware of the LiveStrong bands? Over 70 million of these bands were sold, and over $25 million went to cancer research that would NOT have been raised. Across the country people became aware of the surroundings of the Cancer Foundation. How did it attract people, who would not have donated anyway? The LiveStrong bands was a popular "fad" across the United States that everyone wore. If you are telling me, that all of those 70 million people would have donated $1 to a Cancer Foundation, you are very deceived and misinformed individual.
     
  14. Geoff Vadar

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    I take it this is the only point you feel comfortable taking me up on? I see.
    Well it turns out the 'fad' ended. People stopped wearing the bands. Hardly a sustainable strategy. Ergo the comeback?

    Perhaps this is a good opportunity for you to remind us why the LAF is qualified to be the the global cancer funding beneficiary of choice?

    If Armstrong is so adept at soliciting 'greenfield' awareness to the cancer cause why the imperative to drive all donations to the LAF in-conjunction with this new awareness?

    Are you suggesting international health organisations or developed domestic govts across the world have a complete incapacity to identify and fund sound research? Or are you suggesting govts around the world are desperately ignoring much needed research into cancer - a health problem costing them billions every year in associated healthcare costs?

    That is a lot of stupid people doing stupid things. Doesnt add up.

    Perhaps the LAF 'GLOBAL FIGHT' will drive far better efficiencies with our Australian Dollars to deliver cures for cancer?

    Then we can buy the cure back off you for $1500USD for 15ml vial and put it on the PBS scheme so it only costs Australian patients $14.95.

    Piss off. We have world class research teams heavily funded in the pursuit of cures for various cancers. As do many other countries around the world.

    Lance should stick to his awareness campaigns and leave the funding structures in place. He doesnt need 100s of millions of dollars rolling in to make a difference in this world.

    Get a grip.
     
  15. alienator

    alienator Well-Known Member

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    Since you're argument, if that's what is, contains nothing objective or factual, I guess we'll just chuck in the azzhat file where it belongs.

    You should try ranting and using more invective.
     
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