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Matt B
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Roger Merriman wrote:
> Jeremy Parker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Erik Sandblom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news
[email protected]...
>>> Den 2007-07-03 20:13:30 skrev Jeremy Parker
>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>> "Erik Sandblom" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>> But I'm beginning to think that fast-moving road traffic (say 50
>>>>> km/h or 30 mph) simply does not have a place in a city,
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> I live in the London borough of Barnet, where sixty people commute
>>>> by
>>>> car for every person who commutes by bike. If somebody decides
>>>> that
>>>> that cars and bikes are incompatible, who's votes do you think
>>>> will
>>>> win the road?
>>>
>>> Many people do not commute by bike because they are afraid of being
>>> run over by a car. So making car traffic less intimidating as
>>> discussed above can potentially reduce car dependency in itself.
>>> Actually making it happen requires political leadership, such as
>>> we are seeing in London.
>>>
>>> Erik Sandblom
>> Many people's intimidation is miraculously cured by an £8 congestion
>> charge for their car, or a tube strike or derailment, or whatever.
>>
> yes but the numbers are still very low, they have increased from a lower
> point but still very low numbers, while cars are every where.
>
>> The one thing we do know about the increase in cycling in London is
>> that it is not due to any change in speed limits or speeds. Those
>> haven't changed, except to the extent that cars probably go faster in
>> central London now, because there is less congestion
You think?
Watch this /very/ interesting video (8 mins):
<http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r_YV3Cru7aE>
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Matt B
> Jeremy Parker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Erik Sandblom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news
[email protected]...>>> Den 2007-07-03 20:13:30 skrev Jeremy Parker
>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>> "Erik Sandblom" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>> But I'm beginning to think that fast-moving road traffic (say 50
>>>>> km/h or 30 mph) simply does not have a place in a city,
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> I live in the London borough of Barnet, where sixty people commute
>>>> by
>>>> car for every person who commutes by bike. If somebody decides
>>>> that
>>>> that cars and bikes are incompatible, who's votes do you think
>>>> will
>>>> win the road?
>>>
>>> Many people do not commute by bike because they are afraid of being
>>> run over by a car. So making car traffic less intimidating as
>>> discussed above can potentially reduce car dependency in itself.
>>> Actually making it happen requires political leadership, such as
>>> we are seeing in London.
>>>
>>> Erik Sandblom
>> Many people's intimidation is miraculously cured by an £8 congestion
>> charge for their car, or a tube strike or derailment, or whatever.
>>
> yes but the numbers are still very low, they have increased from a lower
> point but still very low numbers, while cars are every where.
>
>> The one thing we do know about the increase in cycling in London is
>> that it is not due to any change in speed limits or speeds. Those
>> haven't changed, except to the extent that cars probably go faster in
>> central London now, because there is less congestion
You think?
Watch this /very/ interesting video (8 mins):
<http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r_YV3Cru7aE>
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Matt B
