Thorsten Schier wrote:
> "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" schrieb:
> >
> > Thorsten Schier wrote:
> >
> > > "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" schrieb:
> > > >
> > > > Thorsten Schier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" schrieb:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Totality of Lunar Mu_n Eclipsed wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 12:06:29 -0500, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > > > > > > <
[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > >Understandably because Matti's not a doctor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do we know what Matti is? Outside of a voracious Medline addict.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He is doomed until he accepts Christ as his Lord and Savior.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Wouldn't you agree that it would be a bit ... petty ... of a god to doom people for
> > > > > eternity just because they don't believe in him or his son?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > No. It seems to me that you are trying to judge God.
> > >
> > > No. I'm just using common sense and logic. There is just no point in a god who creates the
> > > universe and mankind and then judges people on whether they worship him or not.
> > >
> >
> > Neither my perspective nor your prespective are those of God's.
> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > How would you call a mother that kills her children just because they don't believe that
> > > > > she is their real mother, for whatever reasons?
> > > >
> > > > Jesus says in Matthew 7:
> > > >
> > > > 1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you
> > > > will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
> > >
> > > And yet, Christians usually _do_ judge persons who commit crimes.
> >
> > A jury might but individual christians should not.
> >
> > > As far as I know, in many states of your country, which is a Christian country after all,
> >
> > Actually, the U.S. is not a christian country. The founding fathers of this country were diests.
> >
> > See:
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> >
http://www.geocities.com/greendalek/diests.html
> >
> > > a mother who killed her children would run the risk of being killed by the state in turn.
> >
> > If judged guilty of breaking the laws by a jury of her peers.
> >
> > > Otherwise she would usually imprisoned for lifetime. Please correct me, if I am wrong on this.
> > >
> >
> > You are wrong that I or any christian would judge her.
> >
>
> Do Christians usually refuse to take part in a jury?
>
No.
>
> Are you claiming that people like George W. Bush (who is responsible for the death of several
> dozens of prisoners during his time as gouvernor in Texas after all) are no Christians?
>
No.
Jesus says as quoted in Matthew 7:
1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be
judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3"Why do you look at the speck
of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you
say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank
in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see
clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
One can be part of a jury and not judge. And indeed, Christ has taught us that if we do judge one
another, then expect similar treatment by God. However, because we as christians love Christ, we do
as He asks of us anyway.
Hope this helps you understand Christ's teachings.
I would suggest you read the "good news" yourself and not take my word for it.
You remain in my prayers, neighbor.
Humbly,
Andrew
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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
http://www.heartmdphd.com/
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