In alt.support.diabetes Stacey Bender <
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: Doug Freyburger wrote:
: > Exactly, and I just wrote that above in a very different
: > form. Most of the stress is on the common knowledge and
: > on what seems to be obvious. The approach does not work.
: > The fact that some *do* manage to keep it off means there
: > *are* approaches that do work.
: In the weight loss registry people who kept off over 60 pounds (i think)
: for more than 5 years, 91% exercised their ass off. Most people aren't
: willing to do that.
: People have made a calculation, pleasure now is better than the promiss
: of health in the future. Living longest is not the main outcome to
: optimize for. Food is the main soure of pleasure for most people. The
: calculation is rational.
: > I see very little study of trying to figure out what
: > are the non-obvious things that people do when they
: > successfully keep it off.
: 25% or so won't get fat simply because that's their biology. I would
: like to be one of them
: > Figure out how to
: > avoid fattening situations mentally. Firgure out how
: > to avoid binge trigger foods physically.
: That implies you think it worth the effort to do so. That implies you
: deeply feel losing weight is important. I truly think most people just
: give lip service to the idea of losing weight because they think they
: should. In the end the pleasure of food wins because that makes people
: happier now.
: > And our biology has both physical and psychological aspects.
: I think as we find more about the physical aspects, as we have for other
: issues, the psychological aspects have become the hocus pocus baseless
: conjecture they are.
: > At this point I have the physical aspects learned. It's
: > not enough. I'm satisfied with my state in that my
: > original goals of no back pain and no loud snoring are
: > handled, but I am still above my best weight. Am I
: > sucessfull because I'm satisfied and my goals are
: > acheieved? Yes. Am I blocked by those facts from doing
: > what it takes for what others would expect for me to be
: > successfull? Also yes.
: Five years of any sustained weight loss is great. It's a daily battle
: thought isn't it?
I have kept my weight loss for over 15 years and am not a big exerciser.
I used to walk quite a bit, livig in New York City, but have been unable
to for the last yer and a half, yet O have maintained the weight loss. I
do get on the scale every morning. I am eating carefully to maintain good
diabetic numbers (A1c 5.304 over the last 15 months) and find, as I age,
tht I no longer enjoy "pigging out" and can't really eat as much
comfortably any mre. Wherther this iis due to age (I am 69) or to just
havign gotton accustomed to eating less I don't know. I am writomg a;;
this with a sense of wonder, because I really can't explain it. I am food
aware, largely because of teh diabetes and I am in a big competition with
the disease to sho it that it can't beat me, so maybe that helps. I was
never able to maintain weight loss before my diagnoses at a little over
50, but thought of my self as a fat person with thin intervals, or as an
acordion person. Now I am still over weight and would like to loose aobut
10-15 pounds, but am sable and have not gone back up the 60 pounds I lost
after my diagnoses.
O don't think of myself as anyting special for this, just happy that is is
working. It may partly be because of the foo self-consciousness that
accompanies the diabetes and the automatic carb counter in my her . I am
on a moderate carb regimineating 45-100 grms per day and trying not to
"make up for it" in extra fat and protein. I am putting this all down in
case it might help someone else.
Wendy
