Lung Cancer And Bike Riding



I ride 20 street miles a day 5 or 6 days a week year round and I know
that I breathe unknown carcinogens not to mention particulate matter
and God knows what else. Have there been any long term scientific
studies with biking all other things being equal, sex, age etc. where
two groups one riding one not and cancer studies.
 
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I ride 20 street miles a day 5 or 6 days a week year round and I know
>that I breathe unknown carcinogens not to mention particulate matter
>and God knows what else. Have there been any long term scientific
>studies with biking all other things being equal, sex, age etc. where
>two groups one riding one not and cancer studies.


The studies I've seen suggest that the air a cyclist breathes is
actually cleaner than that inside the cars. Doesn't mean it's
pristine, but that you're probably less likely to die from some dread
disease if you ride instead of drive.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame
 
[email protected] wrote:
> I ride 20 street miles a day 5 or 6 days a week year round and I know
> that I breathe unknown carcinogens not to mention particulate matter
> and God knows what else. Have there been any long term scientific
> studies with biking all other things being equal, sex, age etc. where
> two groups one riding one not and cancer studies.
>


You are more likely to get lung cancer from second hand smoke than from
riding your bike in smoggy situations. One in three people will get
some form of cancer, so you have a 33% chance you'll get it from
somewhere or someone (heredity).

Did you know that barbequed food actually has a higher carcinogen level
than fried food? Yup, Mickey D's willl give you less of a chance
getting cancer than the King. Go figure!

The carpeting and laminates in your house give out more carcinogens than
the air in New Dehli, India (smog capital of the world).

Stop riding your bike and you'll probably die of heart disease from
getting fat.

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot (works in cancer research) o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws
 
Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>
> You are more likely to get lung cancer from second hand smoke than from
> riding your bike in smoggy situations. One in three people will get
> some form of cancer, so you have a 33% chance you'll get it from
> somewhere or someone (heredity).
>
> Did you know that barbequed food actually has a higher carcinogen level
> than fried food? Yup, Mickey D's willl give you less of a chance
> getting cancer than the King. Go figure!
>
> The carpeting and laminates in your house give out more carcinogens than
> the air in New Dehli, India (smog capital of the world).


Sigh. You just make this **** up, don't you?

(To the OP: the only thing that R-A-L says that makes sense is that you
probably are doing more good for yourself than harm.)

CC
 
Corvus Corvax wrote:
> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> >
> > You are more likely to get lung cancer from second hand smoke than from
> > riding your bike in smoggy situations. One in three people will get
> > some form of cancer, so you have a 33% chance you'll get it from
> > somewhere or someone (heredity).
> >
> > Did you know that barbequed food actually has a higher carcinogen level
> > than fried food? Yup, Mickey D's willl give you less of a chance
> > getting cancer than the King. Go figure!
> >
> > The carpeting and laminates in your house give out more carcinogens than
> > the air in New Dehli, India (smog capital of the world).

>
> Sigh. You just make this **** up, don't you?
>
> (To the OP: the only thing that R-A-L says that makes sense is that you
> probably are doing more good for yourself than harm.)
>
> CC


Ouch! That's gotta sting.
Along that way of thinking, the more you ride the better chances of
being taken out or gravely injured by smacking into a tree or being
creamed by a car, so enjoy the couch. But that's not the point of your
query, is it?
I have only seen a couple of these type of masks
(http://www.progressiveconcept.com.sg/Respro S&L Leisure.html) used
in bus exhaust nyc. I don't know if it'll help or hurt your breathing,
but looking at those pics sure makes them look like the choice of tough
guys.
/s
(putting fake-buttered popcorn in the non-carcinogenic microwave)
 
[email protected] wrote:
> Corvus Corvax wrote:
>
>>Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>>
>>>You are more likely to get lung cancer from second hand smoke than from
>>>riding your bike in smoggy situations. One in three people will get
>>>some form of cancer, so you have a 33% chance you'll get it from
>>>somewhere or someone (heredity).
>>>
>>>Did you know that barbequed food actually has a higher carcinogen level
>>>than fried food? Yup, Mickey D's willl give you less of a chance
>>>getting cancer than the King. Go figure!
>>>
>>>The carpeting and laminates in your house give out more carcinogens than
>>>the air in New Dehli, India (smog capital of the world).

>>
>>Sigh. You just make this **** up, don't you?
>>
>>(To the OP: the only thing that R-A-L says that makes sense is that you
>>probably are doing more good for yourself than harm.)
>>
>>CC

>
>
> Ouch! That's gotta sting.
> Along that way of thinking, the more you ride the better chances of
> being taken out or gravely injured by smacking into a tree or being
> creamed by a car, so enjoy the couch. But that's not the point of your
> query, is it?
> I have only seen a couple of these type of masks
> (http://www.progressiveconcept.com.sg/Respro S&L Leisure.html) used
> in bus exhaust nyc. I don't know if it'll help or hurt your breathing,
> but looking at those pics sure makes them look like the choice of tough
> guys.


Ooh, I like the outlaw Scarf myself. I'm kind of an outlaw, livin' in
the wild, wild, West. Maybe it would buy me a little credibility with
the overly-aggressive-driving, big loud truck crowd.

> /s
> (putting fake-buttered popcorn in the non-carcinogenic microwave)
>


Oh gawd no! Not the microwave! Don't you know it makes RADIATION! It's BAD!

Matt ;)
 
[email protected] wrote:
> I ride 20 street miles a day 5 or 6 days a week year round and I know
> that I breathe unknown carcinogens not to mention particulate matter
> and God knows what else. Have there been any long term scientific
> studies with biking all other things being equal, sex, age etc. where
> two groups one riding one not and cancer studies.



Check out how American automobiles mostly have their exhaust on the
passenger side of the car, made to gas pedestrians and cyclists. Most
Eurotrash vehicles have exhaust on the driver's side. Got Carbon
Monoxide?

If you live in LA, wear a breather.

JD
 
[email protected] says...

> I ride 20 street miles a day 5 or 6 days a week year round and I know
> that I breathe unknown carcinogens not to mention particulate matter
> and God knows what else. Have there been any long term scientific
> studies with biking all other things being equal, sex, age etc. where
> two groups one riding one not and cancer studies.


Yes riding a bike is certain death. In fact, the more you breathe, the
more likely you are to get lung cancer. What you need to do is lay in
bed all the time and not move so you breathe as little as possible like
the guys in that sunken Russian sub. Seriously, lung cancer is 90% a
smoker's phenomenon. Most of the rest may be attributed to radon gas.
You increase your radon exposure if you:

-Have a basement
-Your house has brick or stone walls
-You keep the doors and windows shut most of the time
-Have well water
-You like to take frequent, long and hot showers
 
Corvus Corvax wrote:
> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>
>>You are more likely to get lung cancer from second hand smoke than from
>>riding your bike in smoggy situations. One in three people will get
>>some form of cancer, so you have a 33% chance you'll get it from
>>somewhere or someone (heredity).
>>
>>Did you know that barbequed food actually has a higher carcinogen level
>>than fried food? Yup, Mickey D's willl give you less of a chance
>>getting cancer than the King. Go figure!
>>
>>The carpeting and laminates in your house give out more carcinogens than
>>the air in New Dehli, India (smog capital of the world).

>
>
> Sigh. You just make this **** up, don't you?
>
> (To the OP: the only thing that R-A-L says that makes sense is that you
> probably are doing more good for yourself than harm.)
>
> CC
>


I wish he were making this **** up. When I have to get off my bike and
go to work, I deal with this **** on a daily basis (enviro. engineer).

Besides, you're gonna be healthier overall for riding anyway...as long
as you don't hit a tree, ride off the edge of the trail to a 100' drop,
etc. So don't worry about it ;)

Psycho Mike
 
Michael Halliwell wrote:
>
> I wish he were making this **** up. When I have to get off my bike and
> go to work, I deal with this **** on a daily basis (enviro. engineer).


So you agree that one third of us will contract cancer? That switching
from Burger King to McDonald's will reduce your risk if cancer? That
the average person's exposure to second-hand smoke is more dangerous
than their exposure to air pollution? That the air quality in my house
is worse than on the street in New Delhi? This is bending over
backwards to be charitable to the statements in question.

If so, I would really like to know where you got your degree from.

CC
 
Corvus Corvax wrote:
> Michael Halliwell wrote:
>
>>I wish he were making this **** up. When I have to get off my bike and
>>go to work, I deal with this **** on a daily basis (enviro. engineer).

>
>
> So you agree that one third of us will contract cancer? That switching
> from Burger King to McDonald's will reduce your risk if cancer? That
> the average person's exposure to second-hand smoke is more dangerous
> than their exposure to air pollution? That the air quality in my house
> is worse than on the street in New Delhi? This is bending over
> backwards to be charitable to the statements in question.
>
> If so, I would really like to know where you got your degree from.
>
> CC
>


Do not take the statements out of context. In relation to cancer, they
are true. Emphysema, heart disease, and diabetes are another story.
Choose to believe what you will. I work for the organization that does
the research both medically and epidemiologically and has been doing it
since 1907. You are welcome to research the facts yourself in our journals.

Enough. Let's go ride!

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot (1 day to IDEEEHO!) o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws
 
Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>
> Do not take the statements out of context. In relation to cancer, they
> are true.


So you maintain that eating at McDonald's instead of Burger King will
reduce your risk of cancer? It's a simple question.

> I work for the organization that does
> the research both medically and epidemiologically and has been doing it
> since 1907.


That's what scares me so much. People who used to make a mission of
educating the public about science, and who ought to know better, have
reduced themselves to spouting meaningless pseudo-facts. This is not a
benign trend. The level of scientific ignorance in this country is
astonishing.

CC
 
Corvus Corvax wrote:
> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>
>>Do not take the statements out of context. In relation to cancer, they
>>are true.

>
>
> So you maintain that eating at McDonald's instead of Burger King will
> reduce your risk of cancer? It's a simple question.


No, not reduce your risk of cancer. McDonalds is not a cancer
preventative. There are fewer carcinogens in a fried hamburger than a
grilled hamburger. This is caused by the fat dripping on the coals, and
rising back in the smoke onto the meat. That's the fact. Of course we
could all become vegitarians and be happier. I for one like my beef,
especially when it's grilled.

>
>
>>I work for the organization that does
>>the research both medically and epidemiologically and has been doing it
>>since 1907.

>
>
> That's what scares me so much. People who used to make a mission of
> educating the public about science, and who ought to know better, have
> reduced themselves to spouting meaningless pseudo-facts. This is not a
> benign trend. The level of scientific ignorance in this country is
> astonishing.
>
> CC
>


Meaningless and pseudo? I don't think so. Overwhelming to the general
public, probably. Cancer is as much about prevention as cure. Studies
on the cause and statistical research lead to recommendations for
prevention.


--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws
 
Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>
> Of course we could all become vegitarians and be happier.


Naw, I'll take the carcinogen laden fat and blood squirting 1/2 lb patty
of dripping goodness along with extra fat and crispy (on the outside)
golden fatty fat fries :) :)


Dang it, I think I just rip me skivvies :-(
--
Fat Slack
 
Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>
> Meaningless and pseudo? I don't think so. Overwhelming to the general
> public, probably.


Riiight. One in three of them maybe. But they're toast anyway.

CC
 
Corvus Corvax wrote:
> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>
>>Meaningless and pseudo? I don't think so. Overwhelming to the general
>>public, probably.

>
>
> Riiight. One in three of them maybe. But they're toast anyway.
>
> CC
>


ROTFL!

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws
 
[email protected] wrote:
> Corvus Corvax wrote:
>
>>Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>>
>>>You are more likely to get lung cancer from second hand smoke than from
>>>riding your bike in smoggy situations. One in three people will get
>>>some form of cancer, so you have a 33% chance you'll get it from
>>>somewhere or someone (heredity).
>>>
>>>Did you know that barbequed food actually has a higher carcinogen level
>>>than fried food? Yup, Mickey D's willl give you less of a chance
>>>getting cancer than the King. Go figure!
>>>
>>>The carpeting and laminates in your house give out more carcinogens than
>>>the air in New Dehli, India (smog capital of the world).

>>
>>Sigh. You just make this **** up, don't you?
>>
>>(To the OP: the only thing that R-A-L says that makes sense is that you
>>probably are doing more good for yourself than harm.)
>>
>>CC

>
>
> Ouch! That's gotta sting.
> Along that way of thinking, the more you ride the better chances of
> being taken out or gravely injured by smacking into a tree or being
> creamed by a car, so enjoy the couch. But that's not the point of your
> query, is it?
> I have only seen a couple of these type of masks
> (http://www.progressiveconcept.com.sg/Respro S&L Leisure.html) used
> in bus exhaust nyc. I don't know if it'll help or hurt your breathing,
> but looking at those pics sure makes them look like the choice of tough
> guys.
> /s
> (putting fake-buttered popcorn in the non-carcinogenic microwave)
>

Hmmm, looks like you've heard that there is a very high incidence
(statistically speaking) of a rare lung disease at the factories that
make the fake butter?

http://www.medbroadcast.com/channel...sp?news_id=7380&channel_id=1030&relation_id=0


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1079010276226_7?s_name=&no_ads=

RS
 
On 10 Aug 2005 19:04:11 -0700, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:

..I ride 20 street miles a day 5 or 6 days a week year round and I know
..that I breathe unknown carcinogens not to mention particulate matter
..and God knows what else. Have there been any long term scientific
..studies with biking all other things being equal, sex, age etc. where
..two groups one riding one not and cancer studies.

Yes. A study (in England?) a couple of decades ago found that bikers are
healthier, IN SPITE of breathing exhaust.
===
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