CAMPYBOB said:but the customer service people probably speak Engrish.
But do they make frames with track dropouts, disc brakes and deraileur fittings?
CAMPYBOB said:but the customer service people probably speak Engrish.
We're not on the same page my friend.Froze said:Correct you are, we're not slamming 99% of the countries in the world either, what we are saying that if possible, which isn't always possible, to buy products made in America to support jobs here, just spending an additional $4 on US made products could create 10,000 jobs here, if every builder used just 5% more US made products it would create 220,000 jobs, this goes on and on, plus the creation of jobs creates more tax dollars. Supporting a job in Canada and England doesn't do a thing for a person working here making the same product, buying a product made in the US recycles those dollars. And you should be doing the same thing, buying mostly products made in Canada and Britain for the same support reasons I listed for buying made in America products.
Not everything made in America is high quality, but today due to electronics all cars suck but some American cars are worse than sucky, Frigidaire appliances are horrid appliances.
Mostly I try to buy American whenever possible, and I try to stay away from Chinese made products whenever possible.
You're right, we're not even close to being on the same page, it's people like you that don't support your country's workers or your nation's welfare, it's people like you that don't support a clean environment...what's that I said? Yup, China has a very poor record of keeping the environment clean; Oh what the hell, it's cheap, it's not bothering my country, workers getting hurt and killed with no financial compensation, but you don't care because you don't live there and it doesn't directly affect you. Not everyone is suited to work in a factory is true, so what? Your not everyone! There are a lot of people without jobs that would love to work in a factory either just to have a job to support their families or they simply like that sort of work, nor is facilitating international trade a job that all people can do, but you're too blind to see that.BikeBikeBikeBike said:We're not on the same page my friend.
I want a good quality product at a competitive price. Some countries just do a better job at that for certain products.
I don't give two hoots if it's made domestically. The law of comparative advantage tells us that it is in everyone's best interest if things are made where it is most efficient to do so. I want to encourage international competition so I can get awesome stuff cheap. I want to encourage people to have jobs because they do good work, not just because they happen to live in the same place as me.
Besides there are more industries then just manufacturing. Not everyone is suited to work in a factory. Many people make a good living facilitating international trade.
People like me? Pound sense? Worthless cause? It was certainly a worthy enough cause for you to write three very well written and though out paragraphs on the subject. You seem upset by my words, why get all bent out of shape by what someone says on the internet? Careful, you are prime troll bait.Froze said:You're right, we're not even close to being on the same page, it's people like you that don't support your country's workers or your nation's welfare, it's people like you that don't support a clean environment...what's that I said? Yup, China has a very poor record of keeping the environment clean; Oh what the hell, it's cheap, it's not bothering my country, workers getting hurt and killed with no financial compensation, but you don't care because you don't live there and it doesn't directly affect you. Not everyone is suited to work in a factory is true, so what? Your not everyone! There are a lot of people without jobs that would love to work in a factory either just to have a job to support their families or they simply like that sort of work, nor is facilitating international trade a job that all people can do, but you're too blind to see that.
I can tell you're very young, what you don't realize is that since a lot of manufacturing has gone to China life expectancy of products made has been reduced by at least 50% and in a lot of cases as much as 95%, so the quality of products has suffered tremendously. This poor product quality is a symptom of a nation building stuff that they could care less about, and being told to build it as cheap as possible, thus you're supporting people who do poor work, the very opposite effect you think you're accomplishing, you're supporting other countries operating sweatshops so you can buy stuff cheap, but what do you care you're not working in one.
You're much too young to understand all of this and a great deal more, you weren't around when things lasted a lot longer, when people had jobs and had them for life, I suggest you get on the internet and research the effects of industry leaving your country and going somewhere else, I'm not going to set here and pound on the keyboard in a feeble attempt to pound sense into you because it's tiring and I can tell it's a worthless cause.
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