Mavic OpenPro clicking noise

[Jesper Brondum]

Hi

My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
warranty is therefore gone :-(

ie. all my OP rims, satin, black, CD klicks more or less.

It seems that the eyelets not properly pressed, so they start moving
around ... and click.

I examined my old OpenSUP from the mid 90's, and there the eyelets is
pressed properly to the rim.

Anyone got a solution ?

Jesper

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[Qui si parla Campagnolo]

Jesper Brondum wrote:
> Hi
>
> My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
> warranty is therefore gone :-(
>
> ie. all my OP rims, satin, black, CD klicks more or less.
>
> It seems that the eyelets not properly pressed, so they start moving
> around ... and click.
>
> I examined my old OpenSUP from the mid 90's, and there the eyelets is
> pressed properly to the rim.
>
> Anyone got a solution ?

Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.

http://www.velocityusa.com
>
> Jesper
>
> --
> // Jesper Bröndum
> // jesper*at*apparatkonsult.com - replace '*at*'

 

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Jesper Brondum writes:


> My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, after a year or so, and
> the warranty is therefore gone. ie. all my OP rims, satin, black,
> CD clicks more or less. It seems that the eyelets not properly
> pressed, so they start moving around ... and click.

> I examined my old OpenSUP from the mid 90's, and there the eyelets
> is pressed properly to the rim.

If you look at the inside of the rim where the spoke nipple bears on
the eyelet, do you see any rust? It is my experience that clicking
occurs between brass spoke nipples and steel eyelets when the zinc
plating on the eyelets wears through to develop a fine layer of rust.
The clicking is from fretting, the same micro-motion that wore off the
zinc plating in the first place.

This has been common in rims as long as I have observed them.

http://www.amp.com/products/technology/articles/dd68_1.stm

Jobst Brandt

 

[Eric Hill]

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
> Jesper Brondum wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
>>warranty is therefore gone :-(
<snip>
>
> Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
> each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
> hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
> and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
> rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.

Okay, now I'm going to have to ask a question about the mixed reviews
I've been getting about Velocity's. Very popular with the fixie crowd,
but I've heard of issues with their durability. Without trudging into
roadbikereview, I'd like to figure out what the hay is going on here.

-eric

 

[Gary Mishler]

"Jesper Brondum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Anyone got a solution ?

Yup, this happens all the time with OP rims. A teeny tiny drop of Tri-Flow
on each eyelet will solve the problem for several hundred or more miles.

 

[Chris Nelson]

> Yup, this happens all the time with OP rims. A teeny tiny drop of Tri-Flow
> on each eyelet will solve the problem for several hundred or more miles.

Ditto. This method solved my click also. Careful not to put too much as
it will eventually get in to the rim tape and tube and could cause a
flat. Been there, done that.

A little dab'll do 'ya.

 

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Chris Nelson writes:

>> Yup, this happens all the time with OP rims. A teeny tiny drop of
>> Tri-Flow on each eyelet will solve the problem for several hundred
>> or more miles.

> Ditto. This method solved my click also. Careful not to put too much
> as it will eventually get in to the rim tape and tube and could
> cause a flat. Been there, done that.

My experience is that the next wet ride washes the lubricant away and
the clicking returns. For this reason eyelets in rims should be
stainless steel as they are in some models.

Jobst Brandt

 

[Qui si parla Campagnolo]

Eric Hill wrote:
> Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
> > Jesper Brondum wrote:
> >
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
> >>warranty is therefore gone :-(
> <snip>
> >
> > Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
> > each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
> > hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
> > and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
> > rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.
>
> Okay, now I'm going to have to ask a question about the mixed reviews
> I've been getting about Velocity's. Very popular with the fixie crowd,
> but I've heard of issues with their durability. Without trudging into
> roadbikereview, I'd like to figure out what the hay is going on here.

I have built probably 300-400 wheels in the past 4 years using Velocity
rims. I have seen one failure(split rim at spoke hole) and that was
warrantied immediately...so My expereince is VERY positive about
Velocity rims.

Aero, Aerohead,Razor, Escape, Fusion, Deep V, Synergy, Dyad...I have
built with them all with great results. Now RBR may be talking about
their wheel, which are no better than any out of a box.
>
> -eric

 

[A Muzi]

>>>Jesper Brondum wrote:
>>>>My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
>>>>warranty is therefore gone :-(

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
>>>Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
>>>each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
>>>hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
>>>and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
>>>rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.

> Eric Hill wrote:
>>Okay, now I'm going to have to ask a question about the mixed reviews
>>I've been getting about Velocity's. Very popular with the fixie crowd,
>>but I've heard of issues with their durability. Without trudging into
>>roadbikereview, I'd like to figure out what the hay is going on here.

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
> I have built probably 300-400 wheels in the past 4 years using Velocity
> rims. I have seen one failure(split rim at spoke hole) and that was
> warrantied immediately...so My expereince is VERY positive about
> Velocity rims.
>
> Aero, Aerohead,Razor, Escape, Fusion, Deep V, Synergy, Dyad...I have
> built with them all with great results. Now RBR may be talking about
> their wheel, which are no better than any out of a box.


We also moved to Velocity Aerohead/OC after the Campagnolo
Montreal was discontinued and our experience is positive. OC
especially means we build a better more durable wheel now.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

 

[Jesper Brondum]

In article <[email protected]>, "Qui
si parla Campagnolo" <[email protected]> wrote:

I tried oil, works until I wash the bike :-(

Does "boiled lindseed oil" ( what that is ?) stand for a wash ?

Newer heard of velocity rims, mabye on an US market only brand name ?



> Jesper Brondum wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
> > warranty is therefore gone :-(
> >
> > ie. all my OP rims, satin, black, CD klicks more or less.
> >
> > It seems that the eyelets not properly pressed, so they start moving
> > around ... and click.
> >
> > I examined my old OpenSUP from the mid 90's, and there the eyelets is
> > pressed properly to the rim.
> >
> > Anyone got a solution ?
>
> Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
> each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
> hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
> and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
> rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.
>
> http://www.velocityusa.com
> >
> > Jesper
> >
> > --
> > // Jesper Br=F6ndum
> > // jesper*at*apparatkonsult.com - replace '*at*'

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[[email protected]]

[email protected] wrote:
>
> My experience is that the next wet ride washes the lubricant away and
> the clicking returns.
>
That's exactly what happens on my problem-child-OpenPro. It will even
start clicking after riding through the fog in an early morning ride.

Tom

 

[Jay Beattie]

"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
news:[email protected]...
>
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > My experience is that the next wet ride washes the lubricant
away and
> > the clicking returns.
> >
> That's exactly what happens on my problem-child-OpenPro. It
will even
> start clicking after riding through the fog in an early morning
ride.

Do like I did and put those wheels on a Cannondale. All of the
clicks just blend together -- like riding through a field of
crickets. -- Jay Beattie.

 

[Michael Press]

In article
<[email protected]>,
"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Eric Hill wrote:
> > Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
> > > Jesper Brondum wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hi
> > >>
> > >>My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
> > >>warranty is therefore gone :-(
> > <snip>
> > >
> > > Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
> > > each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
> > > hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
> > > and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
> > > rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.
> >
> > Okay, now I'm going to have to ask a question about the mixed reviews
> > I've been getting about Velocity's. Very popular with the fixie crowd,
> > but I've heard of issues with their durability. Without trudging into
> > roadbikereview, I'd like to figure out what the hay is going on here.
>
> I have built probably 300-400 wheels in the past 4 years using Velocity
> rims. I have seen one failure(split rim at spoke hole) and that was
> warrantied immediately...so My expereince is VERY positive about
> Velocity rims.
>
> Aero, Aerohead,Razor, Escape, Fusion, Deep V, Synergy, Dyad...I have
> built with them all with great results. Now RBR may be talking about
> their wheel, which are no better than any out of a box.

The Velocity site is short on details. Their "razor" looks like
the kind of rim that suits me with box construction and silver
finish. Does the razor have double eyelets? What is the precise
nature of the finish? (for me, none is best). What is the width?
(23-28 mm tires).
Thanks.

I like my Torelli Masters, but they are not made anymore.
Ambrosios are not available in the USA.

--
Michael Press

 

[App]

Michael Press asserted:
> Ambrosios are not available in the USA.

You can get ambrosios via www.ital-tecno.com.

App

 

[Qui si parla Campagnolo]

Michael Press wrote:

> The Velocity site is short on details. Their "razor" looks like
> the kind of rim that suits me with box construction and silver
> finish. Does the razor have double eyelets? What is the precise
> nature of the finish? (for me, none is best). What is the width?
> (23-28 mm tires).

Single eyelet, similar finish to a silver Open Pro, 22mm width. Any
tire that the frame can handle.


> Thanks.
>
> I like my Torelli Masters, but they are not made anymore.
> Ambrosios are not available in the USA.
>
> --
> Michael Press

 

[Wayne Pein]

Michael Press wrote:

> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Eric Hill wrote:
>>
>>>Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Jesper Brondum wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
>>>>>warranty is therefore gone :-(
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>>Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
>>>>each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
>>>>hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
>>>>and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
>>>>rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.
>>>
>>>Okay, now I'm going to have to ask a question about the mixed reviews
>>>I've been getting about Velocity's. Very popular with the fixie crowd,
>>>but I've heard of issues with their durability. Without trudging into
>>>roadbikereview, I'd like to figure out what the hay is going on here.
>>
>>I have built probably 300-400 wheels in the past 4 years using Velocity
>>rims. I have seen one failure(split rim at spoke hole) and that was
>>warrantied immediately...so My expereince is VERY positive about
>>Velocity rims.
>>
>>Aero, Aerohead,Razor, Escape, Fusion, Deep V, Synergy, Dyad...I have
>>built with them all with great results. Now RBR may be talking about
>>their wheel, which are no better than any out of a box.
>
>
> The Velocity site is short on details. Their "razor" looks like
> the kind of rim that suits me with box construction and silver
> finish. Does the razor have double eyelets? What is the precise
> nature of the finish? (for me, none is best). What is the width?
> (23-28 mm tires).
> Thanks.
>

http://velocityusa.com/rim-diagrams.php gives dimension details. It
would be nice to have the inner flange width though. I did contact them
in the past and found out that

- Deep V 13.2 mm
- Aerohead 14.0 mm
- Aero 13.35 mm

For comparison old MA2s have 13.5 inside dimension, and Open Pro has
14.5! This surprised me, and indicates that an Open Pro can take a
bigger tire best.

Wayne