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Jobst:
From the websit of the original posting:
"We hopped a bus down to Dunedin (we've seen the east coast before), and found the famous Baldwin
Street hill, noted in the Guinness Book of World Records as the steepest road in the world at
1:1.266, or an astounding 38 degrees. Stairs climb the hill on the sides, and people can get a
certificate for just walking up the thing."
If Rise/Run = 1/1.266, this is a 38.3degree hill. They may have taken the measurement at the
steepest point.
MOO, Matt
[email protected] wrote:
>Matt Locker writes:
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>
>
>>>>>What do you think, what is the maximum slope on a road, which is possible to overcome on a
>>>>>bike? If I remember well on the Vuelta the max slope of some mountain stages was up till 23%.
>>>>>Is it the maximum, or a man can overcome the higher slope?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>
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>>>>This year's Giro d'Italia had one short section of 27%. Filbert St. in San Francisco is 31.5%.
>>>>The steepest road in the world is in New Zealand, and it has been climbed by bicycle:
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http://scasagrande.tripod.com/NZ3b/
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>>>Interesting. I'm not sure what to believe. The rider in the picture is neither in a position of
>>>great forceful climbing nor is his equipment up to the task. It seems this is a posed static shot
>>>or the hill is not as steep as claimed. It's hard to tell from an in-line photo. The text is also
>>>not encouraging since 38 degrees is not even walkable, feet facing forward, However, the walking
>>>people have their feet flat on the road. The ankle of the average human cannot approach that
>>>angle. Filbert street uses stairs for pedestrians at 31.5%, this road is 79%. I don't believe it,
>>>at least not for the portion of the road shown. The rider in the picture should do an end-over
>>>just holding the rear brake at this inclination, standing as he is.
>>>
>>>
>
> # We hopped a bus down to Dunedin (we've seen the east coast before), and found the famous Baldwin
> # Street hill, noted in the Guinness Book of World Records as the steepest road in the world at
> # 1:1.266, or an astounding 38 degrees. Stairs climb the hill on the sides, and people can get a
> # certificate for just walking up the thing.
>
>
>
>>>Where are the real figures?
>>>
>>>
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>
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>>I think you should look at the photo again. Look at the houses in the distance. They are a long
>>ways down a very short road. Look at the angle of the closest house on the right - which happens
>>to be at the start of the "relatively flat" section. The lead person walking may be partially on
>>his heel but is definitely climbing. The second person is entirely on her toes. The rider appears
>>to be in her lowest granny gear. It also appears that she is just about to transition from a
>>"relatively" flat section back into a steeper section of the climb - similar to the one that had
>>been crested 50 or so yards before.
>>
>>
>
>I was sent an interesting URL that fits with my perception of steep streets:
>
>
http://onenews.nzoom.com/onenews_detail/0,1227,164476-1-5,00.html
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>I think that sums it up.
>
>Jobst Brandt
[email protected] Palo Alto CA
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Jobst:<br> <br> From the websit of the original posting:<br> <br> "We hopped a bus down to
Dunedin (we've seen the east coast before), and found the famous Baldwin Street hill, noted in
the <u>Guinness Book of World Records</u> as the <strong>steepest road in the world </strong>at
1:1.266, or an astounding 38 degrees. Stairs climb the hill on the sides, and people can get a
certificate for just walking up the thing."<br> <br> If Rise/Run = 1/1.266, this is a 38.3degree
hill. They may have taken the measurement at the steepest point.<br> <br> MOO,<br> Matt<br> <br>
<br> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="
mailto:[email protected]">
[email protected]</a> wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="midzDNDa.305$%
[email protected]"> <pre wrap="">Matt
Locker writes:
</pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote
type="cite"> <pre wrap="">What do you think, what is the maximum slope on a road, which is
possible to overcome on a bike? If I remember well on the Vuelta the max slope of some mountain
stages was up till 23%. Is it the maximum, or a man can overcome the higher slope? </pre>
</blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!----> </pre> <blockquote
type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">This year's Giro
d'Italia had one short section of 27%. Filbert St. in San Francisco is 31.5%. The steepest road in
the world is in New Zealand, and it has been climbed by bicycle: </pre> </blockquote>
</blockquote> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!----> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="
http://scasagrande.tripod.com/NZ3b/">
http://scasagrande.tripod.com/NZ3b/</a>
</pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Interesting. I'm not sure
what to believe. The rider in the picture is neither in a position of great forceful climbing nor
is his equipment up to the task. It seems this is a posed static shot or the hill is not as steep
as claimed. It's hard to tell from an in-line photo. The text is also not encouraging since 38
degrees is not even walkable, feet facing forward, However, the walking people have their feet
flat on the road. The ankle of the average human cannot approach that angle. Filbert street uses
stairs for pedestrians at 31.5%, this road is 79%. I don't believe it, at least not for the
portion of the road shown. The rider in the picture should do an end-over just holding the rear
brake at this inclination, standing as he is. </pre> </blockquote> </blockquote> <pre
wrap=""><!---->
# We hopped a bus down to Dunedin (we've seen the east coast before), and found the famous Baldwin
# Street hill, noted in the Guinness Book of World Records as the steepest road in the world at
# 1:1.266, or an astounding 38 degrees. Stairs climb the hill on the sides, and people can get a
# certificate for just walking up the thing.
</pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Where are the real figures?
</pre> </blockquote> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!----> </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre
wrap="">I think you should look at the photo again. Look at the houses in the distance. They are a
long ways down a very short road. Look at the angle of the closest house on the right - which
happens to be at the start of the "relatively flat" section. The lead person walking may be
partially on his heel but is definitely climbing. The second person is entirely on her toes. The
rider appears to be in her lowest granny gear. It also appears that she is just about to
transition from a "relatively" flat section back into a steeper section of the climb - similar to
the one that had been crested 50 or so yards before. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""><!----> I
was sent an interesting URL that fits with my perception of steep streets:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="
http://onenews.nzoom.com/onenews_detail/0,1227,164476-1-5,00-
.html">
http://onenews.nzoom.com/onenews_detail/0,1227,164476-1-5,00.html</a>
I think that sums it up.
Jobst Brandt <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="
mailto:[email protected]">
[email protected]</a> Palo Alto CA
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