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  1. Sheldon <[email hidden]> wrote in news:ed397aae-7848-4fe0-9010-
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    Quoted message said:
    Michael said:


    The mac and cheese is a go for sure. It might wind up being the
    main entree. I'm still leaning towards ham.

    Who says mac n' cheese can't contain ham?


    The pigs from the farm down the road?
    United Pigs for World Dominance?
    Cows with Guns?
    Chickens in Choppers?

    --

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    It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
    Elbonian Folklore

  2. Goomba38 said:
    Janet Baraclough said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Michael \"Dog3\"" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    I have got to tell you. I am really sick of turkey, stock and the
    rest. I don't hate it. I'm just sick of it. Gimme a good beef or
    pork thing. I'll sit withe my apple juice waitig.

    So what? The hospice meal is not about your tastes.

    Janet.

    But many patients are sick of boring hospital style food too. So the
    meal should be varied with textures and tastes.

    That's why Michael thought of soup and mac & cheese. If someone can't eat
    the ham, they can most certainly eat one of those things. Comfort food at
    its finest, IMO. :~)

    kili

  3. Sheldon <[email hidden]> wrote in news:ed397aae-7848-4fe0-9010-
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    Quoted message said:

    Who says mac n' cheese can't contain ham?

    I'd lean more towards crumbled bacon in the Mac & Cheese...Remember texture
    and flavor from earlier in the thread? Not that ham isn't nice, but bacon
    has a stronger taste.

    --

    The house of the burning beet-Alan

    It'll be a sunny day in August, when the Moon will shine that night-
    Elbonian Folklore

  4. Michael "Dog3" schrieb :
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    This is just my experience. Since I have been in service The patient's have
    lasted maybe a year. My cat is on my keyboard. The hospice is hard to work
    at. The folks die. It is what they do. I take their pets in. That is what I
    do. That and read. I pretty much do what I can. Someone help me here. I do
    what I can. The rest is chance.I have no clue what is next.


    If the temperature is low where you live, how about Gulasch (goulash?[1]) ?
    You'd just need some big pots and a portable heater.

    Cheers,

    Michael Kuettner

    [1] I still don't know what USAn goulash exactly is.

  5. kilikini said:

    From what I understand, this hospice is run by volunteers. (Correct me if
    I'm wrong, Michael.) There is a sign-up sheet to bring food in for the
    patients. Families, friends and the caring public all help out to provide
    food. I'm sure there is a certified nursing staff, too (there would have to
    be), but food is brought in daily.

    60 patients just sounded like a big outfit for such an informal
    meal plan. It must be a very privately run and funded facility.
    And since it's an AIDS facility, that would leave out many
    dietary restrictions.

    Don't know why some people got their panties in a wad (Gregory).

    -sw

  6. Michael 'Dog3 said:

    I am still unhappy about this Miss Daisy thing. I need to make sure that
    camera deal work in the back of the Nissan. I did not mess with it a lot.

    We had a old guy in the neighborhood (Mr Showalter) who did a lot
    of gardening in his front lawn. He went always bent over so the
    crack of his ass was showing.

    When we rode or walked by ands he was bending over, we always
    called out, "Showalter's Bum".

    He thought we were saying "Showlter's a bum". He was very nice
    about it (or at least he wasn't mean) and we were able to make it
    up to him after we grew up.

    ObFood: Pittsburgh style BBQ ham sandwiches for dinner tonight.

    -sw

  7. Goomba38 <[email hidden]> dropped this
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    Quoted message said:
    Janet Baraclough said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Michael \"Dog3\"" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    sueb <[email hidden]> dropped this

    Quoted message said:

    > The salt in the ham might be a no-no with a lot of meds, for
    > example.
    >
    > Susan B.

    Quoted message said:

    What in hell would they care about? Sodium? These folks are dying of
    AIDS.

    So some of them may be in kidney failure or have fluid retention,
    and
    salt could make them feel worse.

    Janet.


    And others might be on drugs that require full sodium diets. <shrug>

    You and Janet are correct. So now I've got to deal with nutrition. I'm
    thinking back when I was so sick. I really just wanted food. The doctors
    would not let me just order food. I'm going to have the doctors on staff
    help a little with this. I know the meals are catered in. I might need to
    talk to them. Martha was over this afternoon. For sure her soup will be
    on the menu. She already has all the stuff together. So far we have
    potato soup and mac 'n cheese. Not sure about the ham. I swear I will not
    do turkey. I am sick to death of turkey. I did 3 of them for
    thanksgiving. I'll do chicken if I have to but not turkey.

    Michael

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  8. Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 03:43:17p, Michael "Dog3" meant to say...

    Quoted message said:

    Goomba38 <[email hidden]> dropped this
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    Quoted message said:
    Janet Baraclough said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Michael \"Dog3\"" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    > sueb <[email hidden]> dropped this

    >> The salt in the ham might be a no-no with a lot of meds, for
    >> example.
    >>
    >> Susan B.

    > What in hell would they care about? Sodium? These folks are dying of
    > AIDS.

    So some of them may be in kidney failure or have fluid retention,
    and
    salt could make them feel worse.

    Janet.


    And others might be on drugs that require full sodium diets. <shrug>

    You and Janet are correct. So now I've got to deal with nutrition. I'm
    thinking back when I was so sick. I really just wanted food. The doctors
    would not let me just order food. I'm going to have the doctors on staff
    help a little with this. I know the meals are catered in. I might need to
    talk to them. Martha was over this afternoon. For sure her soup will be
    on the menu. She already has all the stuff together. So far we have
    potato soup and mac 'n cheese. Not sure about the ham. I swear I will not
    do turkey. I am sick to death of turkey. I did 3 of them for
    thanksgiving. I'll do chicken if I have to but not turkey.

    Michael

    I doubt that one meal of anything will kill anyone, food allergies
    excluded.

    Speaking of food allergies, I was sick to death of hearing about peanut
    allergies. Now, last night, David brought home a copy of an e-mail sent by
    one of the department heads of the company he works for warning everyone
    that they dare not bring a strawberry-anything into the building.
    Supposedly one of his reportees now has a life-threatening allergy to
    strawberries. Apparently can't even be in the same room with a strawberry!
    OY! I'd be inclined to serve strawberry sundaes sprinkled with crushed
    peanuts.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright

    Date: Thursday, December 6th,2007

    *******************************************
    Countdown 'til Christmas
    2wks 2dys 8hrs 15mins
    *******************************************
    The 'poor cat in the rain' look.It
    never fails.
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  9. "Dora Crawford" <[email hidden]> dropped this news:5rqjh6F153orbU1
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    Quoted message said:
    Sheldon said:


    You can always donate an inexpensive plain vanilla 'lectric stove...
    must be a used appliance store nearby... they may even be sweet talked
    into the donation... don your Santa suit.

    I thought the same thing. However, since Michael says there's a space
    problem, maybe prep space would be difficult, too. There's probably a
    help problem, too, to prepare those meals - sounds like they are
    receiving "Meals on Wheels", or equivalent. Here, Meals on Wheels
    delivers one hot meal (dinner) and one cold meal to shut-ins.

    Dora

    I kinda think that is where we are. The big issue right now is nutrition.
    A couple of other kind folks on the group brought up the sodium etc.
    issues I had not thought of. At any rate I'll be cooking at home which
    is not a huge issue. I have 2 ovens at home. Martha has one that I know
    of and I don't know about Sara. We can do this and do it well it is just
    a question of menu.

    Michael

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    Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 01:46:18a, Michael "Dog3" meant to say...

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> dropped this
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    Quoted message said:

    >
    > Then how do these people get their 3x daily meals, is what I'm
    > still trying to figure out.
    >
    > -sw
    >

    I'm guessing that the food is brought in prepared and ready to eat.
    The so-called "kitchen" is there for snacks, sandwiches, stuff.

    That is pretty much it. It is a mini kitchen thing. There is a big
    fridge though. Martha and Sara were over last night dealing with the
    last plans. I think it will be a decent meal. I will do the hams and
    the mac and cheese. Steven is doing the green bean casserole deal.
    Martha is doing potato soup. Sara is the worker bee. Both of them
    are more than capable of helping pull this off. Well, unless Martha
    is drinking. I can always tell when she is into the sauce. Her two
    labs sneak over for forbidden treats. They are fat. I like to sneak
    them those snausage deals. I won't give them to Missy. She will get a
    milk bone type thing.

    Anyway now that I know I am Miss Daisy in the neighborhood AND Steven
    has known it for a long time I'm now calling rank. I'm not sure how
    to be Miss Daisy. She is a much better person than I will ever be but
    the neighbors have associated me that way. I am sure they are all
    terrified when I haul Steven's Jeep out of the garage. Well at least
    I do not drive the Nissan. It is bigger than I thought.

    I am still unhappy about this Miss Daisy thing. I need to make sure
    that camera deal work in the back of the Nissan. I did not mess with
    it a lot.

    Is my lot in life to be a middle aged housefrau? I guess if I give
    back it is okay.

    Well,I'm yappy this morning.

    Michael

    Michael, I wouldn't worry too much about being "Miss Daisy". I think
    it's being used affectionately, as you seem to be well thought of in
    the neighborhood. Most of us never know how we're referred to behind
    our backs. In many cases, not knowing may be a good thing, but I
    think yours has a certain charm, seriously.

    Apparently that is how I'm thought of. I suppose if I had to be compared
    to someone Jessica Tandy would not be a bad deal 😉

    Michael

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  11. Sheldon <[email hidden]> dropped this news:ed397aae-7848-4fe0-9010-
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    Quoted message said:
    Michael said:


    The mac and cheese is a go for sure. It might wind up being the
    main entree. I'm still leaning towards ham.

    Who says mac n' cheese can't contain ham?

    Ham sammys is the goal here. I know I can't do the seeded rye I love. But
    Christy brought up the little dollar rolls. We will see how it all rolls
    out. I am not concerned about nutrition.

    Michael

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  12. "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> dropped this
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    Quoted message said:


    "Michael "Dog3"" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    This is just my experience. Since I have been in service The
    patient's have
    lasted maybe a year. My cat is on my keyboard. The hospice is hard
    to work
    at. The folks die. It is what they do. I take their pets in. That is
    what I
    do. That and read. I pretty much do what I can. Someone help me here.
    I do what I can. The rest is chance.I have no clue what is next.

    That's really wonderful. I admire you.

    nancy

    Well it is not easy Nancy, for me anyway. I've been doing this a long time
    now. I will never find it easy. Just when you get to know someone they go.
    Then you deal with their pets. It is kind of what I do besides eat.

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  13. "Michael Kuettner" <[email hidden]> dropped this
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    Quoted message said:


    Michael "Dog3" schrieb :
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    This is just my experience. Since I have been in service The
    patient's have lasted maybe a year. My cat is on my keyboard. The
    hospice is hard to work at. The folks die. It is what they do. I take
    their pets in. That is what I do. That and read. I pretty much do
    what I can. Someone help me here. I do what I can. The rest is
    chance.I have no clue what is next.


    If the temperature is low where you live, how about Gulasch
    (goulash?[1]) ? You'd just need some big pots and a portable heater.

    Cheers,

    Michael Kuettner

    [1] I still don't know what USAn goulash exactly is.

    Gawd... I did not even think of goulash. Yummm... That even sounds good
    for dinner tonight.

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  14. Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 04:04:27p, Michael "Dog3" meant to say...

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> dropped this
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    Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 01:46:18a, Michael "Dog3" meant to say...

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> dropped this
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    >>
    >> Then how do these people get their 3x daily meals, is what I'm
    >> still trying to figure out.
    >>
    >> -sw
    >>
    >
    > I'm guessing that the food is brought in prepared and ready to eat.
    > The so-called "kitchen" is there for snacks, sandwiches, stuff.

    That is pretty much it. It is a mini kitchen thing. There is a big
    fridge though. Martha and Sara were over last night dealing with the
    last plans. I think it will be a decent meal. I will do the hams and
    the mac and cheese. Steven is doing the green bean casserole deal.
    Martha is doing potato soup. Sara is the worker bee. Both of them
    are more than capable of helping pull this off. Well, unless Martha
    is drinking. I can always tell when she is into the sauce. Her two
    labs sneak over for forbidden treats. They are fat. I like to sneak
    them those snausage deals. I won't give them to Missy. She will get a
    milk bone type thing.

    Anyway now that I know I am Miss Daisy in the neighborhood AND Steven
    has known it for a long time I'm now calling rank. I'm not sure how
    to be Miss Daisy. She is a much better person than I will ever be but
    the neighbors have associated me that way. I am sure they are all
    terrified when I haul Steven's Jeep out of the garage. Well at least
    I do not drive the Nissan. It is bigger than I thought.

    I am still unhappy about this Miss Daisy thing. I need to make sure
    that camera deal work in the back of the Nissan. I did not mess with
    it a lot.

    Is my lot in life to be a middle aged housefrau? I guess if I give
    back it is okay.

    Well,I'm yappy this morning.

    Michael

    Michael, I wouldn't worry too much about being "Miss Daisy". I think
    it's being used affectionately, as you seem to be well thought of in
    the neighborhood. Most of us never know how we're referred to behind
    our backs. In many cases, not knowing may be a good thing, but I
    think yours has a certain charm, seriously.

    Apparently that is how I'm thought of. I suppose if I had to be compared
    to someone Jessica Tandy would not be a bad deal 😉

    Michael

    Not at all...

    --
    Wayne Boatwright

    Date: 12/6/07

    *******************************************
    Countdown 'til Christmas
    2wks 2dys 7hrs 45mins
    *******************************************
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    after. - Yugoslav Proverb
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  15. Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> dropped this
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Apparently that is how I'm thought of. I suppose if I had to be
    compared to someone Jessica Tandy would not be a bad deal 😉

    Michael

    Not at all...

    It is getting late. I want roast beef. I'm thinking deli meats. I'm tired
    and do not want to go out for dinner. I've had a longish day as it is.
    Gawd... maybe Arby's?

    Michael

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  16. Oh pshaw, on Thu 06 Dec 2007 04:48:38p, Michael "Dog3" meant to say...

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> dropped this
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Apparently that is how I'm thought of. I suppose if I had to be
    compared to someone Jessica Tandy would not be a bad deal 😉

    Michael

    Not at all...

    It is getting late. I want roast beef. I'm thinking deli meats. I'm tired
    and do not want to go out for dinner. I've had a longish day as it is.
    Gawd... maybe Arby's?

    Michael

    If you can stomach it. I can't.

    --
    Wayne Boatwright

    Date: Thu, 12/6/07

    *******************************************
    Countdown 'til Christmas
    2wks 2dys 7hrs 15mins
    *******************************************
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    criminal is that a fool attacks
    unpredictably and on a wider front.

  17. Michael 'Dog3 said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> dropped this
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Apparently that is how I'm thought of. I suppose if I had to be
    compared to someone Jessica Tandy would not be a bad deal 😉

    Michael

    Not at all...

    It is getting late. I want roast beef. I'm thinking deli meats. I'm
    tired and do not want to go out for dinner. I've had a longish day as
    it is. Gawd... maybe Arby's?

    I thought you said you wanted roast beef. At least look for a Lion's
    Choice.

    Brian

    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

  18. The message <[email hidden]>
    from Goomba38 <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Christine Dabney wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I agree with this. Usually by the time one is in hospice care, they
    are pretty close to dying, like within days or a week or two.

    Quoted message said:

    Sadly this is both true and untrue. MANY people are on Hospice care for
    months, even a year or two is not unheard of. Yet sadly the majority of
    people in private homes only sign up for this care in the last weeks
    when they could have benefited from the services months earlier.

    In the UK, hospices are trying to get the message across they are not
    just places to go to die in; thay can make a big difference to quality
    of life for patient and family long before the final stage. They offer
    temporary respite care, to make a break for exhausted families who are
    nursing at home; and for reassessment of pain management needs at home.

    Janet.

  19. The message <[email hidden]>
    from Sqwertz <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    And since it's an AIDS facility, that would leave out many
    dietary restrictions.

    Why do you think that?

    Janet

  20. "Michael "Dog3"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> dropped this
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Apparently that is how I'm thought of. I suppose if I had to be
    compared to someone Jessica Tandy would not be a bad deal 😉

    Michael

    Not at all...

    It is getting late. I want roast beef. I'm thinking deli meats. I'm tired
    and do not want to go out for dinner. I've had a longish day as it is.
    Gawd... maybe Arby's?

    Michael

    Next time you grocery-shop, pick up something to have on hand for these kind
    of nights. In tonight's case, you could've had on hand a very nice 'can' of
    roast beef, or any nice deli dinner in a package. Even if it has to go in
    the oven, lie down and soothe your mind and body while it is heating.
    Repeat after me: Life is wonderful.... life is wonderful .... life is
    wonderful
    Dee Dee

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