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limerickman said:
I've no idea.


But here's a thought.
Several countries use sport and sporting events to regenerate economic activity in areas/regions.

Take ?
Take Athens in Greece, not Georgia.
By staging the 2004 Olympic Games : Athens managed to gnerate huge infrastructural development which will enhance the economic growth of that
relatively impoverished region.

or take Britain, Manchester : their bid for the Commonwealth Games generated
massive infrastructural investment and development which has added hugely to the economic activity of North West England.

Building large infrastructures in locations where there is no indigenous activity or no indigenous economic activity is seen as away of generating employment/income.
Check my previous post and why if you are going to generate revenues, why not spend it on levies rather than football or casinos....Choices...once again poor choices...
 
limerickman said:
I know you didn't say GSP.

I'm saying GSP is the measure used for wealth measurement - STATE ON STATE.
Well, which is it? You say the people there are poor, downtrodden yet their aveage income doesn't reflect that nor do their purchasing power i.e. buying high priced football tickets... Secondly, of course Virginia and Florida will have a larger GSP. Their populations are also much larger. Florida's population is 18 million, VA is 8 million, LA is 4 million. :rolleyes:
 
zapper said:
Well, which is it? You say the people there are poor, downtrodden yet their aveage income doesn't reflect that nor do their purchasing power i.e. buying high priced football tickets... Secondly, of course Virginia and Florida will have a larger GSP. Their populations are also much larger. Florida's population is 18 million, VA is 8 million, LA is 4 million. :rolleyes:

........I know math isn't your strong point.

And if you take 326b divide by 7m (pop of VA) and then divide 157b by 4m
(pop of La) you'll see that nett income per person in La is far lower than the tripe you posted earlier.
 
limerickman said:
........I know math isn't your strong point.

And if you take 326b divide by 7m (pop of VA) and then divide 157b by 4m
(pop of La) you'll see that nett income per person in La is far lower than the tripe you posted earlier.
Try again...7m pop of va figure is old news...about 5 years old. It it closer to 8m... Ole tripe master...
 
limerickman said:
........I know math isn't your strong point.

And if you take 326b divide by 7m (pop of VA) and then divide 157b by 4m
(pop of La) you'll see that nett income per person in La is far lower than the tripe you posted earlier.
Not that Zappers #'s are right (although they may be), but I what you are talking about here is GSP per capita. Individual avg. income is not the same thing. For example government workers, lawyers ;) , and welfare recipients receive income even though they produce nothing. There should be at least a weak correlation between GSP per capita and avg. income (as you already stated it is a measure of reletive wealth), but perhaps not. Don't think that changes the pointlessness of the argument, but it can help explain the large discrepancy between the two viewpoints.
 
zapper said:
Try again...7m pop of va figure is old news...about 5 years old. It it closer to 8m... Ole tripe master...

well according to your goverment stats, 7m is the number.


still doesn't negate the fact that income per head in your state is higher than La.
In addition your state is rated in the 2nd tier of prosperous states in the Union
whereas La is in the 3rd tier (with Mississippi)

which begs the question as to how you could possibly derive the 35k per head income in Va ?
stick with counting the deuces on the card table.
 
wilmar13 said:
Not that Zappers #'s are right (although they may be), but I what you are talking about here is GSP per capita. Individual avg. income is not the same thing. For example government workers, lawyers ;) , and welfare recipients receive income even though they produce nothing. There should be at least a weak correlation between GSP per capita and avg. income (as you already stated it is a measure of reletive wealth), but perhaps not. Don't think that changes the pointlessness of the argument, but it can help explain the large discrepancy between the two viewpoints.

Wilmar, I could argue the case on several issues but given my opponents inability to grasp even basic arithematic, I think we ought to keep this as simple as possible.

But even getting away from the math - the US Gov statistics lists La as being in the third tier of prosperous states in the Union.
Virginia is in the second tier.

GSP or Gross Domestic Product is regarded as the most accurate measure of growth when comparing relative wealth of nations (in this case states).
 
limerickman said:
Wilmar, I could argue the case on several issues but given my opponents inability to grasp even basic arithematic, I think we ought to keep this as simple as possible.

But even getting away from the math - the US Gov statistics lists La as being in the third tier of prosperous states in the Union.
Virginia is in the second tier.

GSP or Gross Domestic Product is regarded as the most accurate measure of growth when comparing relative wealth of nations (in this case states).
Perhaps the GDP would be higher if individuals were productive instead of going to football games..

ENERGY CONSUMPTION PER PERSON RANKINGS BY STATE

VA = 30TH
FL = 44TH
LA =3RD

For people who are so poor they sure use a lot of energy....
 
limerickman said:
well according to your goverment stats, 7m is the number.


still doesn't negate the fact that income per head in your state is higher than La.
But not by such a disproportionate amount as you are trying to make out here...
 
limerickman said:
GSP or Gross Domestic Product is regarded as the most accurate measure of growth when comparing relative wealth of nations (in this case states).
Another stat for you "ARCHIMEDES". Seems VA has a bigger deficit than LA perhaps they could have gone deeper in debt to fortify those levies....Since Blanko was so on top of things...


FY 2005 STATE Deficit Projection :
Florida 0 0% (REPUBLICAN GOV)
Louisiana 500m 8% (DEM GOV)
Virginia 927m 8% (DEM GOV)
 
wilmar13 said:
Not that Zappers #'s are right (although they may be), but I what you are talking about here is GSP per capita. Individual avg. income is not the same thing. For example government workers, lawyers ;) , and welfare recipients receive income even though they produce nothing. There should be at least a weak correlation between GSP per capita and avg. income (as you already stated it is a measure of reletive wealth), but perhaps not. Don't think that changes the pointlessness of the argument, but it can help explain the large discrepancy between the two viewpoints.

For the record : Personal Incomes (in Millions) for the first two quarters in 2005 :

Q1 Q2

Virginia 283,066 286,983
Louisiana 128,059 130,147
Mississippi 73,585 74,815

Whichever way you cut it (based on GSP or Personal Incomes) Virginia is
over twice as wealthy as La and is wealthier than the aggregate of La and Mi.

The fact that Va has a far higher population accentuates the huge gap between wealthy (relatively) regions like Va compared to poor regions like
La.
 
limerickman said:
For the record : Personal Incomes (in Millions) for the first two quarters in 2005 :

Q1 Q2

Virginia 283,066 286,983
Louisiana 128,059 130,147
Mississippi 73,585 74,815

Whichever way you cut it (based on GSP or Personal Incomes) Virginia is
over twice as wealthy as La and is wealthier than the aggregate of La and Mi.

The fact that Va has a far higher population accentuates the huge gap between wealthy (relatively) regions like Va compared to poor regions like
La.
Hey genius...think again. what you have posted is the sum of personal incomes..divided by a higher number produces a lower AVERAGE salary "ARCHIMEDES" :rolleyes:


Second, have you heard of Hurrican HUGO? hit SC and guess what...they are listed in the LOWEST QUINTLE of your reference...one tier below LA!!!! It didn't slow down federal responses....Perhaps you and wurmy can put your heads together and come up with another conspiracy.... :p
 
limerickman said:
283 divided by 7 = 40

128 divided by 4 = 32.

40 is greater than 32.

Va's wealthier.
Not by so much to make a huge difference and secondly, Perhaps if LA sold their football team and stopped using so much electricity they would be on an equal playing field.

But seriously, the response to LA had absolutely nothing to do with incomes or stadiums. Just as with HUGO which slammed into a "poorer" state "SC" and it didn't have jack to do with the response...
 
Differential of 8k between a population of 4,000,000 compared to a population
of 7-8 million, per person, is substantial.

In fact, it's so substantial that La is in the 3rd tier of states in the Union while VA is in the 2nd tier.

Q.E.D.
 
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Sorry you can now return to arguing which state wastes more money on football and which one is richer.
 
limerickman said:
Differential of 8k between a population of 4,000,000 compared to a population
of 7-8 million, per person, is substantial.

In fact, it's so substantial that La is in the 3rd tier of states in the Union while VA is in the 2nd tier.

Q.E.D.
“As Governor, her top priorities include: providing affordable, accessible healthcare, improving the state’s education system, and creating a strong and vibrant economy.”

Well I guess Blanko's bio is a load of ...how do you put it? Oh, yes...Tripe... Perhaps they should have elected Jeb Bush...
 
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and spotted a man in a boat below. She shouted to him, "Excuse me, can
you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I
don't know where I am!" The man consulted his portable GPS and replied,
"You're in a hot air balloon approximately 30 feet above sea level. You
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hot air. You've made a promise that you have no idea how to keep, and
you expect ME to solve your problem. You're in EXACTLY the same position
you were in before we met, but somehow, now it's MY fault."
 
La's unemployment rate during 2005 averages at 5.5%

Va's unemployment rate during 2005 averages at 3.6%.

La's lower income per head, lower GSP rate, higher unemployment rate, forces
La in to the third tier of US States in terms of wealth generation.
 

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