Definite kudos quenya.Originally Posted by frost .
Definetely, go big or go home. Hats off and respect for your race!
I'd go independant under those circumstances as well. When I raced for a small team in my area, everyone on the team got to be king for a day. Everyone, regardless of level, got at least one race where the guys in their Cat were there for them unconditionally. Alas the team folded and now I'm also racing solo. But as Dave mentioned, in Cat4 it's not really a detriment to a good result.Originally Posted by quenya .
but when Madera, Pine Flat or other road races that suited me came around guys had better things to do those weekends than support me...
Reading about team tactics in a RR makes me smile. One of the most interesting analytical problems I have tackled is to develop the optimal pacing strategy for a team of X riders on a road course with variable grade and wind. Given each rider's key fitness statistics and weight, and the constraint that the team can't drop the weakest member, the question is simple: At each point on the course, how long should each rider stay on front and at what power? The answer algorithm is highly complex.Originally Posted by quenya .
Danfoz, that wasn't really a factor in my leaving, just a silver lining I've found... Though after Madera and a strong chase at tuesday night's world champs ride 2 former teammates have messages me in Facebook inviting me back to the team...
We did have an all for one attitude/rule but all of the 'team' races were crits and it never really made sense to say 'okay team, this here crit is mine so I'm taking a low percentage shot at the early break, if it gets brought back we do a team TT to the finish and I'll sprint for 5th...'
This is a really good perspective to have. Especially in light of the new NCNCA policy that you accumulate points without regard to the time-period that they were earned, with respect to an upgrade.Originally Posted by quenya .
Dave, thanks a lot. Quite a bit to digest in that post. I am not really chasing upgrade points because I feel when I'm winning races or competing for the win in races that don't really suit me the upgrade will happen. But, your idea of getting position at the and refining my finish is one I'll certainly incorporate.
And, yes I raced without team support. I actually am racing unattached this year for a number of reasons. One plus though is that I'm not expected to work for others... many of my teammates were masters 3 crit racers, a couple 2s, and the few 4s that were there always wanted (needed?) my support in crits to chase breaks or line the field out in the last laps, but when Madera, Pine Flat or other road races that suited me came around guys had better things to do those weekends than support me...
A new team is planned and the guys have different skillsets but more similar race focus so hopefully that works out a little better for everyone.
Also the upgrade from Cat 4 to 3 can be done via #of races, in addition to accruing points - it's the last upgrade that can be done this way. So even if ambitious attacks fail and one does get sucked into the pack they can still upgrade after 25 mid pack finishes with a starting field of (I believe but would need to double check the rulebook) 70 riders or more. Just don't get dropped completely. It would certainly be prudent to have the legs as well otherwise racing would just become a miserable experience if the new category's physical demands are completely out of ones attainable depth.Originally Posted by teebone .
There is freedom in racing without seeking points. Strong riders like you will get the upgrade, no doubt, but racing with points in mind is cumbersome. Dave's idea is spot on in regard to using some of these races to execute a particular strategy not specifically tied to a finish placing. I have gained more confidence in my ability to race through intermediate steps than from finishing places. In a local circuit race I rode across to a chase group a half K up the road where two guys were trying to hamper the pursuit of the leader (teammates). I got to the chase and rode it up to the leader, then organized (errr......yelled at) the guys to get a solid working rotation. We stayed away a good part of the race. Even though we were caught in the end and I finished near the back of the field, that boosted my confidence through the roof and went home happy as pie.
Good point about self confidence playing a role beyond fitness. Some of it's a process about learning where one's own strengths are relative to the group, i.e. true sprinter, 1k guy, TT, etc. and then truly exploiting that. A lot of which is trial and error and can take many races to figure out. And the big mistakes ensure by their own virtue they'll never happen again. I got one that still haunts me./img/vbsmilies/smilies/wink.gifOriginally Posted by teebone .
You'll find that your efforts to plan a strategy and execute it will help you ooze the confidence you need to finish races the way you want. Getting caught and dropped where and how you did is no reflection of your racing. It is easy to sit in the field all day and wait for one moment to try and make it happen. It takes courage to jump from the field and race for the win. Good on ya!