Mince pie for Wayne



Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Wed 05 Apr 2006 02:34:23p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
> LadyJane?


>> The worst thing I've heard of is the Pie Floater - which I believe
>> originated in South Australia. It's essentially a shallow bowl half
>> filled with tomato sauce (ketchup) and the pie is placed face down
>> into it. Salt content must be horrendous!!
>> (Admits to preferring sauce WITH my pie, rather than pie WITH my
>> sauce!!)
>>

>
> Some nice and interesting options. I'v never had mushy peas. Don't
> think they'd be easy to find here. I have to agree, the Pie Floater
> sounds dreadful!


That is NOT a pie floater. The pie is placed upside down in pea soup, not
in tomato sauce. Tomato sauce may be put on the pie, but there's
certainly not half a bowl of it. Personally I prefer my pie with the
sauce, but without the pea soup - I've never tried a floater myself.

http://www.nationaltrustsa.org.au/heritage_icons_2003.htm#Pie
--
Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia
 
On Thu 06 Apr 2006 04:36:56a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Rhonda
Anderson?

> Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Wed 05 Apr 2006 02:34:23p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
>> LadyJane?

>
>>> The worst thing I've heard of is the Pie Floater - which I believe
>>> originated in South Australia. It's essentially a shallow bowl half
>>> filled with tomato sauce (ketchup) and the pie is placed face down
>>> into it. Salt content must be horrendous!!
>>> (Admits to preferring sauce WITH my pie, rather than pie WITH my
>>> sauce!!)
>>>

>>
>> Some nice and interesting options. I'v never had mushy peas. Don't
>> think they'd be easy to find here. I have to agree, the Pie Floater
>> sounds dreadful!

>
> That is NOT a pie floater. The pie is placed upside down in pea soup, not
> in tomato sauce. Tomato sauce may be put on the pie, but there's
> certainly not half a bowl of it. Personally I prefer my pie with the
> sauce, but without the pea soup - I've never tried a floater myself.
>
> http://www.nationaltrustsa.org.au/heritage_icons_2003.htm#Pie


That's an interesting history. Not sure if I'd care to eat one like that,
though. :)

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
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[email protected] (Kathy in NZ) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:30:21 GMT, [email protected] (Phred)
> wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Kathy
>>in NZ) wrote:
>>>Wayne
>>>
>>>Individual meat pies are classic fast food in NZ. See for yourself.
>>>Go to google.co.nz, put mince pie in the search field, click on
>>>"search in NZ", and see how many schools have it on the lunch orders.

>>
>>They've just banned meat pies and other "junk food" at all government
>>schools (or only primary schools?) in Qld. Some items will be allowed
>>once or twice a year on special occasions at a school.
>>
>>This bloody Labor mob is gradually going right overboard in
>>legislating to run people's lives for them. It won't be long before
>>we all have to use only Premier Pete's Pink **** Paper.

>
>>Cheers, Phred.

>
> Well, pies are our equivalent of the worst in American fast food. It's
> high in fat and cholesterol.
>
> Recently I had a cholesterol blood test at the doctor's . It had gone
> up steeply.
>
> "What have you been eating?" asked the doc, amazed.
>
> "A winter of pies," I confessed. And I had. After years without eating
> pies last winter I overindulged and it showed up in my cholesterol
> test.
>
> Warning: pies are an ocassional indulgence, not an every night/day .
> They should not be on the menu in schools.
>
> Kathy in NZ



Thanks Kathy...... I just bought some Four and Twenties today.
Looks like I'll just save them for the guests :)



But *Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate*!!!! Have you tried the Yatala pies????!!!!!



Pretty bloody good, if I say so myself!!
 
In article <[email protected]>, "LadyJane" <[email protected]> wrote:
[snip]
>
>The worst thing I've heard of is the Pie Floater - which I believe
>originated in South Australia. It's essentially a shallow bowl half
>filled with tomato sauce (ketchup) and the pie is placed face down into
>it. Salt content must be horrendous!!
>(Admits to preferring sauce WITH my pie, rather than pie WITH my
>sauce!!)


'Evening ma'am,

I feel obliged to correct this bit of misinformation. No offence
intended. :)

As one who consumed his first pie floater quite recently (courtesy of
some refugees from South Australia) I can vouch that they float in
*pea soup*, NOT in friggin' ketchup. You may, of course, add adequate
ketchup ON the pie.

Here's a description with picture: <http://www.lard.net/piefloat.html>
(Click on the pic for a larger version, if you can stomach it. :)

Here's a more picturesque description (remarkably similar pic though):
<http://thegreenman.net.au/mt/archives/000536.html>

Happy digesting!

Cheers, Phred.

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[email protected]LID
 
>Just curious -- is calling ground beef "mince" the origin of "mincemeat"?
> >Seems logical -- if so, what is the term for "mincemeat" in your form of
> >English? If I called pie "mince" in the USA it would probably be taken

for
> >meaning "mincemeat pie", the sweet dessert made with ground meat.
> >
> >I'll bet that out of the confusion someone once said "to hell with it,

let's
> >just call it hamburger" and it stuck :)
> >--
> >Lefty
> >

> You need to be careful with mince pie recipes to distinguish between
> "Christmas mince pies" and meat "mince pies".
>
> In NZ (and Britain) a Christmas mince pie would not contain any meat.
> It would contain a selection of dried fruits. Ad yes, it's a dessert
> or cake item. But NO MEAT.
>
> Kathy in NZ


That is what I was wondering. My recipe for mincemeat would qualify as a
"Christmas Mince with meat" -- it is beef, apples, raisins, and spices. The
beef isn't even noticeable but adds a lot. You should try it. It is really
delicious and very rich.

It is surprising how many baked goods call for meat. My ex-MIL used to make
"Pork Cake", a moist spice cake that used ground pork
--
Lefty

Life is for learning
The worst I ever had was wonderful
 
Lefty wrote:
> > >
> > > Just curious -- is calling ground beef "mince" the origin of

> "mincemeat"?
> >
> > I'd venture a good guess that mincemeat (meaning, minced meat) predates
> > ground beef. Originally, the beef was just cut or pulled into tiny
> > bits - minced. My grandmother (German descent) always made mincemeat
> > pie with real beef instead of what is called mincemeat in the US today.
> > She did NOT use ground beef, but rather cooked the beef and then cut
> > it up. However, I never liked it as much as a US version of mincemeat
> > that used apples and other sweet stuff as a dessert pie filling. ;-)
> >
> >
> > N.

>
> I have a dynamite recipe for the beef & apples kind you like. It costs a
> mint to buy it in a jar and nowhere near as good as my old timey recipe.
>
> I will post it if you want it.
> --
> Lefty


Thanks - I don't much care for the beef mincemeat, myself. I like
mincemeat pie for dessert, and for that, I don't want beef in it.

Ground beef in a pastry envelope - that's something entirely different
;-)

N.
 
Rhonda and Phred wrote:
>that they float in
> *pea soup*,


Mentioned the thread to husband last night and he nearly choked when I
mentioned the tomato sauce thing too!
Mushy peas, Jane, peas!

Must have been too ****** the other night and gotten my wires
crossed....nothing new there! (****** or x-wires!)

sorry for grossing everyone out...
STILL think it sounds disgusting with the peas!

humblest apologies to all and thanks to Rhonda and Phred - we all muck
things up occasionally - especially when over indulged in a good Aussie
red (or four or five)

winks mischieviously....

LadyJane
--
"Never trust a skinny (or ******) cook!"
 
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:23:55 GMT, [email protected] (Phred)
wrote:


>As one who consumed his first pie floater quite recently (courtesy of
>some refugees from South Australia) I can vouch that they float in
>*pea soup*, NOT in friggin' ketchup. You may, of course, add adequate
>ketchup ON the pie.
>
>Here's a description with picture: <http://www.lard.net/piefloat.html>
>(Click on the pic for a larger version, if you can stomach it. :)
>

As someone who comes from a pie culture, I must confess I had never
heard of a pie floater till this discussion, and hope I never do
again. It looks absolutely disgusting.

Kathy in NZ