My point in suggesting the problem was NOT with the cyclist is that there are parts (not all) of the
car/bike interface problem that have nothing to do with the behavior of the cyclist, but rather are
the result of the training, perception, and attitude of the car driver.
By the way, I got knocked down a few years ago by a bike messenger riding the wrong way (up)
Broadway in NYC. He didn't even hesitate or apologize - just jumped up got on his bike and took off.
He fell off again when my briefcase hit him. I didn't apologize either. My point, however, is that I
didn't say or mean that cyclists are not without fault. My point simply was that focusing ENTIRELY
on cyclists won't solve the problem for the above stated reasons.
"Seth Jayson" <
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> > I absolutely agree that we need to stop stereotyping "soccer moms"
>
> I'm beginning to wonder about that one. On my commute this morning, the only three cars that cut
> me off were moms with kids in tow...
>
> As for Bicyclist NOT being the problem, I find that to be BS. As a pedestrian, I routinely get run
> off the road by bike messengers in chicago, and I see bicyclists cutting stop signs all the time.
>
> This article, which I paste from the March issue of bike traffic from www.biketraffic.org, has
> some interesting information on Stopping.
>
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>
> When I say stop, I mean stop! Jim Nugent, Park Forest
>
> What does it mean to stop? It's getting harder to tell nowadays. In 1979, psychologists studying
> drivers' behavior at stop signs noted that 37% came to a full stop, 34% made a rolling stop, and
> 29% didn't stop at all. In 1996 3% came to a full stop, another 3% made a rolling stop, while the
> other 94% just kept on rolling.
>
> In a car-bike accident study researchers looked at 3000 crashes in six states and found that 40%
> involved failure to yield the right of way at a sign or signal. Fault was about evenly divided
> between the cyclists and the auto drivers. The U.S. Department of Transportation similarly reports
> that 33% of bicycle deaths in 2001 occurred at intersections. Cutting car drivers more slack at
> signed or signaled intersections just might make your bicycle experience less surgical.
>
> Cars that don't yield or stop at intersections are responsible for about 25% of car-bike
> accidents. Even worse, in 60% of these cases police report the cyclist victim was going against
> traffic on the wrong side of the street.
>
> A second 25% of car-bike accidents happen between intersections when cars and bikes are pulling
> onto the highway. The law says that all vehicles must come to a stop before entering a roadway,
> but it's becoming increasingly common to see cars scoot out of gas stations, fast food joints,
> driveways, and parking lots at higher and higher speeds. About 2% of these mid-block accidents are
> caused by cars backing out; 7% are cars driving out mid-block without stopping; and 13% are caused
> by cyclists riding out of driveways without stopping. Of course, younger cyclists make up a good
> percentage of that last category. Safety education anyone? Drivers who cut into street traffic
> without stopping just don't have the time to see wrong-way cyclists or sidewalk users.
>
> Automobile drivers also like to roll around corners that allow right turns on red. What started
> out with "stop, look, and then proceed with caution" has turned into "speed up and race around the
> corner in order to beat some oncoming car." About 4% of car-bike accidents occur when cars make a
> right turn on red. The blame isn't all on the auto drivers though, four out five bicyclists in
> these collisions were riding on the wrong side of the road against traffic. In addition, half of
> the cyclists hit were crossing in marked crosswalks.
>
> A few sensible safety steps can improve a cyclist's chance of survival on the streets. The data
> suggest that riding in the streets with the flow of traffic lowers your risk of being hit by a
> motor vehicle.Riding a bicycle properly can be safer than driving. Use extra care at intersections
> and give cars an extra allowance of space just in case they run the signal or roll through the
> stop sign. If cars won't stop, maybe cyclists should. And finally, maybe it's time for increased
> education and enforcement of stops: at stop signs, as drivers enter roadways, and at lights where
> right turns are permitted on red.
>
> Data for this article was gathered from: Federal Highway Administration Pedestrian & Bicycle
> Safety Research, www.tfhrc.gov/safety/pedbike/pedbike.htm Pedestrian and Bicycle Information
> Center, bicyclinginfo.org/bc/perspective.htm