More "It's Just a Coincidence" Theories for the Right-Wing Sheep

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  1. Wurm

    Wurm New Member

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    From one of the very few in the corporate/Main Stream Media that has the guts and integrity to say it:

    Proof again that the Bushshits are the worst thing that has ever happened to this country, and should be impeached/jailed as soon as possible.
     
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  2. lyotard

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    something is brewing in the media, opinion polls are plunging and they know even these low ratings do not reflect the real amount of disapproval, as these polls are carefully tailored to fit statistical models to achieve the desired result of propping the bush syndicate up.
    in actual numbers folks are squaring off anti bush at a much higher rate than revealed.
    i look forward to the imminent collapse, and am heartened to see the many who voted for and supported bush face facts, choosing a true sense of loyalty to their nation and abandoning the perversion of patriotism so many were duped into by the propaganda arm of the bush syndicate and their exploiting the emotions and fears of good people....

    call me cynical, though, in this regard, as i do not believe integrity is at the root of this swing in mainsteam reporting. rather, the anti bush stance now sells, and as such is acceptable to the same folks who buy their corporate sponor's products...it is no longer a potentialy damaging controversy to these corporate sponsors, due to the disapproval of bush by the majority of their consumer base.

    i state this because these facts have been known for years in many cases, yet never got played in peoria until, when was it again?
    oh yeah, the the flood of inarguably plummeting approval ratings that keep coming out.


     
  3. Wurm

    Wurm New Member

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    Mostly true, except Olbermann has been somewhat consistent with his criticisms of the Bush-Thugs, although not nearly as strong about it or as often as he could/should have been. Hell, for being aired on MSNBC, this ain't bad at all.

    Maybe KO will have a little "Wellstone flight" soon, or they'll do a 'Phil Donohue' on 'im??

    "Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

    - Goering at the Nuremberg Trials


    It is no mere coincidence that Smirk W. Chimp's granddaddy Prescott was in bed with the Nazi's, making war profits with them.
     
  4. lyotard

    lyotard New Member

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    oh, man, you and your conspiricy theories are just getting to be...

    delivered to peoria by fox!

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html

    how's that for coincidece, i gotta ask. anyway, just in case you were not born with a silver spoon in your mouth from nazi derived fortune, you can still support someone who was.



     
  5. Wurm

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    Interesting how the Faux News article didn't mention that Old Shrub's operations were shut down by FDR's admin. for war profiteering.

    But Faux needs to "get out front" on this issue, now that the docs are public domain. Obfuscate, distort, lie. Rinse. Repeat.
     
  6. lyotard

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    prescott bush was a skull and bones man, just how did bush get into ivy league with a solid c avg again?



     
  7. limerickman

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051014/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_iraq

    By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON - It was billed as a conversation with U.S. troops, but the questions George Bush asked on a teleconference call Thursday were choreographed to match his goals for the war in Iraq and Saturday's vote on a new Iraqi constitution

    "This is an important time," Allison Barber, deputy assistant defense secretary, said, coaching the soldiers before Bush arrived. "The president is looking forward to having just a conversation with you."

    Barber said the president was interested in three topics: the overall security situation in Iraq, security preparations for the weekend vote and efforts to train Iraqi troops.
    As she spoke in Washington, a live shot of 10 soldiers from the Army's 42nd Infantry Division and one Iraqi soldier was beamed into the Eisenhower Executive Office Building from Tikrit — the birthplace of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

    "I'm going to ask somebody to grab those two water bottles against the wall and move them out of the camera shot for me," Barber said.
    A brief rehearsal ensued.

    "OK, so let's just walk through this," Barber said. "Captain Kennedy, you answer the first question and you hand the mike to whom?"
    "Captain Smith," Kennedy said.
    "Captain. Smith? You take the mike and you hand it to whom?" she asked.
    "Captain Kennedy," the soldier replied.
    And so it went.

    "If the question comes up about partnering — how often do we train with the Iraqi military — who does he go to?" Barber asked.
    "That's going to go to Captain Pratt," one of the soldiers said.
    "And then if we're going to talk a little bit about the folks in Tikrit — the hometown — and how they're handling the political process, who are we going to give that to?" she asked.

    Before he took questions, Bush thanked the soldiers for serving and reassured them that the U.S. would not pull out of Iraq until the mission was complete.
    "So long as I'm the president, we're never going to back down, we're never going to give in, we'll never accept anything less than total victory," Bush said.

    The president told them twice that the American people were behind them.
    "You've got tremendous support here at home," Bush said.
    Less than 40 percent in an AP-Ipsos poll taken in October said they approved of the way Bush was handling Iraq. Just over half of the public now say the Iraq war was a mistake.

    White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Thursday's event was coordinated with the Defense Department but that the troops were expressing their own thoughts.
    With satellite feeds, coordination often is needed to overcome technological challenges, such as delays, he said.

    "I think all they were doing was talking to the troops and letting them know what to expect," he said, adding that the president wanted to talk with troops on the ground who have firsthand knowledge about the situation.
    The soldiers all gave Bush an upbeat view of the situation.

    The president also got praise from the Iraqi soldier who was part of the chat.
    "Thank you very much for everything," he gushed. "I like you."

    On preparations for the vote, 1st Lt. Gregg Murphy of Tennessee said: "Sir, we are prepared to do whatever it takes to make this thing a success. ... Back in January, when we were preparing for that election, we had to lead the way. We set up the coordination, we made the plan. We're really happy to see, during the preparation for this one, sir, they're doing everything."
    On the training of Iraqi security forces, Master Sgt. Corine Lombardo from Scotia, N.Y., said to Bush: "I can tell you over the past 10 months, we've seen a tremendous increase in the capabilities and the confidences of our Iraqi security force partners. ... Over the next month, we anticipate seeing at least one-third of those Iraqi forces conducting independent operations."

    Lombardo told the president that she was in New York City on Nov. 11, 2001, when Bush attended an event recognizing soldiers for their recovery and rescue efforts at Ground Zero.
    She said the troops began the fight against terrorism in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and were proud to continue it in Iraq.
    "I thought you looked familiar," Bush said, and then joked: "I probably look familiar to you, too."

    Paul Rieckhoff, director of the New York-based Operation Truth, an advocacy group for U.S. veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan denounced the event as a "carefully scripted publicity stunt." Five of the 10 U.S. troops involved were officers, he said.
    "If he wants the real opinions of the troops, he can't do it in a nationally televised teleconference," Rieckhoff said. "He needs to be talking to the boots on the ground and that's not a bunch of captains."
     
  8. Hypnospin

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    my take on this "presentation" is that it is a prime example of the symbolic work of the bush syndicate. the actual workings, the substantive ones, ya know, are not as tidy or appealing to the media consumer.
    things like taxpayer funded sweetheart deals for the wartime family and friends high bidders for all the gov't contracts, then double dipping by offering tax breaks to the selfsame conspirators all in the name of, what is it this week?
    promoting overthrow, freedom, democracy, stimulating the economy, eliminating wmd, saving the us from threat, providing homeland security, computerizing elections and taxpayer banking,

    or just good 'ol boy network corporate welfare and military support for us multinational corporate interests?

    it is hopefuly, the kind of desparation based, last gasp pantomime that most voters will recognize for the hoax it is. face it, even as a bush supporter, after seeing this farce, there would henceforth always be some nagging doubt int the back of your mind saying something like, "i really have been suckered".





     
  9. Wurm

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    One of the problems is, so many of the "51-percenter's" can't seem to face that they actually were suckered.
     
  10. limerickman

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    One could also justifiably suggest that what Bush represents isn't even Republican, as defined in US politics.
    The Republican party normally advocated isolationism, careful management of the economy.
    Bush is imperialist and he's made a screw up of the US economy.
     
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    Makes you wonder what ever happened to all of the "Eisenhower Republicans".
     
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    can't really agree with this definition in all cases, as imperialist, colonialist and fascist fill the bill here as well, but it does show the twisted web of something other than conservatism, republican ideals, and democracy.

    the true values bush holds do not reflect the interests of the us citizen at all, and the ones he projects consist of blatantly insincere patronizing to appease his followers. of late, this is mostly lame attempt at damage control, the mark of a man on the run from his own doings.
    looking back, i guess we could have seen it coming. or did we?

    http://www.alternet.org/story/15481

     
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    Some of us did, and obviously some drank the Kool-Aid.
     
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    Wow, if faux is covering this then this has got to be just the tip of the iceberg...Let the sheep make this out to be a conspiracy theory now....
     
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