Most steep, asphalt drive on the world



Mad Dog a écrit :

> [email protected] says...
>
> >Andrew F Martin a =E9crit :

>
> >> Filbert is creepy because in most cars as you pull up to the edge, you
> >> can't see any road in front of you over the hood.

>
> >As many people who were passengers in my car can confirm.

>
> The key is to not "pull up to the edge". Hit that sucker at speed.


For me, the interest lies in engaging a conversation, then seeing how
long it takes for the reality of the exterior situation to overcome
the dialogue.

-ilan
 
"czajna" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> WHERE? How many %?


Nobody's mentioned that section in the Vuelta a few years back, the one
David Millar complained about then threw his bike down at the finish
line. Wasn't that supposed to be 25% or so? It may not be the steepest
in the world, but it might be the steepest in a grand tour or even the
steepest in a road bike race. Was it 2003?

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
 
As in the Angliru (many pros sporting triples). It's been featured in
Vuelta twice now since 2001.
 
and they are paved with concrete....I think she is seeking asphalt.

But in the US, road with higher than 14-15 grades are required to be
paved in concrete, so I'd imagine that many asphalt paved roads "share"
the record.
 
Steve Freides wrote:
> "czajna" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>WHERE? How many %?

>
>
> Nobody's mentioned that section in the Vuelta a few years back, the one
> David Millar complained about then threw his bike down at the finish
> line. Wasn't that supposed to be 25% or so? It may not be the steepest
> in the world, but it might be the steepest in a grand tour or even the
> steepest in a road bike race. Was it 2003?
>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com
>
>


Angliru, 17%, in a driving rain, Heras attacked, Aitor Gonzalez
abandoned his team leader (Oscar Sevilla) to chase.
 
If you want steep, you need to visit Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the
US. There are a number of hills over 28%, documented by city
surveyors. The steepest tops out at 36%. Some are concrete, some
asphalt, some cobblestone. There is a ride every year around
Thanksgiving holiday where the local racers take on the 13 steepest
hills in town, giving points for first five over the top of each. It
is a 65 mile ride that takes almost 5 hours.
If anyone remembers the old Pittsburgh Pro "Thrift Drug Classic" course
(Lance won it a few times), Sycamore St hill, at 24% doesn't even make
it into the "Dirty Dozen" ride. It's not steep enough.
If you want pictures go to this link and click Dirty Dozen on left
margin.
http://www.dannychew.com/


k.papai wrote:
> Coolness on the Dunedin locale!
> The street outside my driveway is steeper than your Kiwi Jaffa:
>
> http://www.kenpapai.com/home/images2004/view3226LG.JPG
> and
> http://www.kenpapai.com/home/images2004/home4254.JPG
>
> (Sort of sucks in the early morning starting out and not warmed up with
> just a 39x23) (are that base belong to you enough justice?)
>
> -Ken
 
Richard Adams wrote:

> Steve Freides wrote:
>
>> "czajna" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> WHERE? How many %?

>>
>>
>>
>> Nobody's mentioned that section in the Vuelta a few years back, the
>> one David Millar complained about then threw his bike down at the
>> finish line. Wasn't that supposed to be 25% or so? It may not be the
>> steepest in the world, but it might be the steepest in a grand tour or
>> even the steepest in a road bike race. Was it 2003?
>>
>> -S-
>> http://www.kbnj.com
>>
>>

>
> Angliru, 17%, in a driving rain, Heras attacked, Aitor Gonzalez
> abandoned his team leader (Oscar Sevilla) to chase.
>
>


OK CN says peaks at 23%, averages 9.6% the whole climb.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2002/vuelta02/?id=results/15
 
Someone oughta organize a race from a few of these:

http://www.actc.org/billygoats/billys.html

There are a few very long climbs which avg 10% and many short climbs far
steeper.

Angola wrote:

> If you want steep, you need to visit Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the
> US. There are a number of hills over 28%, documented by city
> surveyors. The steepest tops out at 36%. Some are concrete, some
> asphalt, some cobblestone. There is a ride every year around
> Thanksgiving holiday where the local racers take on the 13 steepest
> hills in town, giving points for first five over the top of each. It
> is a 65 mile ride that takes almost 5 hours.
> If anyone remembers the old Pittsburgh Pro "Thrift Drug Classic" course
> (Lance won it a few times), Sycamore St hill, at 24% doesn't even make
> it into the "Dirty Dozen" ride. It's not steep enough.
> If you want pictures go to this link and click Dirty Dozen on left
> margin.
> http://www.dannychew.com/
>
>
> k.papai wrote:
>
>>Coolness on the Dunedin locale!
>>The street outside my driveway is steeper than your Kiwi Jaffa:
>>
>>http://www.kenpapai.com/home/images2004/view3226LG.JPG
>>and
>>http://www.kenpapai.com/home/images2004/home4254.JPG
>>
>>(Sort of sucks in the early morning starting out and not warmed up with
>>just a 39x23) (are that base belong to you enough justice?)
>>
>>-Ken

>
>
 
On 2 Aug 2005 07:38:49 -0700, "triumph" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I did a race one time with a 90% brick climb in it one time. We all
>crashed into it like it was a wall.



Not that it really matters because we know what you meant but a 90%
grade would be about 40.5 degrees. A 100% grade would be one where the
road rises 10 feet for every 10 feet you go, a 45 degree grade.

A 90 degree grade would be the straight up brick wall I think you're
referring to.

Just for future reference.
 
"czajna" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> WHERE? How many %?
>

well, if you're looking for a challenge, then there's rattlesnake point near
Milton (west of Toronto ) Ontario. there's a warning sign prohibiting
trucks/ buses from going down. It is quite steep, no idea what the grade is,
but try going up SEATED- I used to be amazed reviewing my HRM at home later
how quickly my heart rate went from 60% max to 100%

Laz
 
Laz wrote:
> "czajna" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>WHERE? How many %?
>>

>
> well, if you're looking for a challenge, then there's rattlesnake point near
> Milton (west of Toronto ) Ontario. there's a warning sign prohibiting
> trucks/ buses from going down. It is quite steep, no idea what the grade is,
> but try going up SEATED- I used to be amazed reviewing my HRM at home later
> how quickly my heart rate went from 60% max to 100%
>
> Laz
>
>

Rattlesnake's not too bad. The sign for the busses is there because if
the switchback near the top. It's too tight and off camber for a large
bus to stay on the road (I'm assuming you're talking about the Appleby
Road approach). The worst part about the climb is that after a storm,
sand collects in the switchback, which causes your tire to skip and lose
all momentum. Aside from that the climb's a bit too short.
 
Laz says...

>well, if you're looking for a challenge, then there's rattlesnake point near
>Milton (west of Toronto ) Ontario. there's a warning sign prohibiting
>trucks/ buses from going down. It is quite steep, no idea what the grade is,
>but try going up SEATED- I used to be amazed reviewing my HRM at home later
>how quickly my heart rate went from 60% max to 100%


I know that road well and doubt that it's more than 20%.
 
Ilan, that screaming wasn't from the view. French drivers have a
certain, uh, elan, that is a little difficult for those who are fond of
living to deal with.