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..> .> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:07:50 GMT, "Mark" <
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..> .> .> On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:40:06 GMT, "Mark"
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..> .> .> .> On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:33:44 GMT, "Mark"
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..> .> .> .> .> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:02:13 GMT, "Mark"
..> .> .<
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..> .> .> .> .> .> On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:21:22 GMT, "Mark"
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..> .> .> .> .> .> .> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 20:46:01 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you
..> .know?"
..> .> .> .> .> .> .<
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..> .> .> .> .> .> .> wrote:
..> .> .> .> .> .> .>
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .I submit that on or about Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:16:50
..GMT,
..> .the
..> .> .> .person
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .known to the court as Mike Vandeman
..<
[email protected]>
..> .> .made a
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .statement (<
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..in
..> .> .Your
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .Honour's bundle) to the following effect:
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .>.I suggested a study methodology whereby you could
..assess
..> .> .> .whether
..> .> .> .> .> .this
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .>.reaction to sustained trolling is characteristic of
..> .> .mountain
..> .> .> .> .bikers,
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .>.or is a general population trait. I thought you
..> .pretended
..> .> .to
..> .> .> .be
..> .> .> .> .a
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .>.scientist?
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .>Leave it to you to change an obvious threat into
..> .> .> .pseudoscientific
..> .> .> .> .BS.
..> .> .> .> .> .> .Mountain
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .>bikers have so many different ways of LYING!
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .Leave it to you to evade the substantive point.
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .What evidence have you that aggressive responses to
..> .sustained
..> .> .> .> .trolling
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .and gleeful death reports are unique to mountain
..bikers,
..> .> .rather
..> .> .> .> .than
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> .being a general human response to such self-evident
..> .bigotry?
..> .> .> .> .> .> .>
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> Normal people don't make physical threats over talk in
..> .> .> .newsgroups.
..> .> .> .> .> .> .MOUNTAIN
..> .> .> .> .> .> .> BIKERS DO, including YOU. Stop pretending to be stupid.
..> .> .> .> .> .> .>
..> .> .> .> .> .> .
..> .> .> .> .> .> .Please show your corroborated data that ALL mountain
..bikers
..> .are
..> .> .> .> .> .threatening
..> .> .> .> .> .> .and intimidating to people who have an opposing view on
..the
..> .> .> .subject.
..> .> .> .> .> .>
..> .> .> .> .> .> 1. It's pretty obvious, to anyone who has ever criticized
..> .> .mountain
..> .> .> .> .biking
..> .> .> .> .> .in
..> .> .> .> .> .> this forum.
..> .> .> .> .> .> 2. Show me where I ever said that, liar.
..> .> .> .> .> .1. Obvious?
..> .> .> .> .>
..> .> .> .> .> Yes.
..> .> .> .> .>
..> .> .> .> .> Have you had a reply from ALL 5.5 million bikers ? Or is it
..> .> .> .> .> .another generalisation, again repeating the same fallacy you
..> .deny
..> .> .to
..> .> .> .do
..> .> .> .> .in
..> .> .> .> .> .this post.
..> .> .> .> .> .Where is youre corroborated behavioural data on every
..mountain
..> .> .biker
..> .> .> .to
..> .> .> .> .> .prove the 'obvious' Mr Vanderman, that bikers in this forum
..> .react
..> .> .to
..> .> .> .> .every
..> .> .> .> .> .poster in here the same. The only constant in your experience
..is
..> .> .you.
..> .> .> .> .which
..> .> .> .> .> .could just as easily mean you are the cause of this behaviour
..,
..> .> .with
..> .> .> .your
..> .> .> .> .> .bigotry. Where are the others who have been threatened Mr
..> .> .Vanderman,
..> .> .> .> .where
..> .> .> .> .> .is your data showing 5.5 million bikers, or even the 40 or so
..in
..> .> .this
..> .> .> .> .forum
..> .> .> .> .> .will resort to threats against anyone who opposes any of
..their
..> .> .views?
..> .> .> .> .> .
..> .> .> .> .> .2. You appear to say it in every post you make starting 'All
..> .> .mountain
..> .> .> .> .> .bikers'.
..> .> .> .> .> .Do a google search for your name, you will find rather a lot.
..> .> .> .> .> .Denying your own past , when it freely archived is a little
..> .silly
..> .> .do
..> .> .> .you
..> .> .> .> .not
..> .> .> .> .> .think?
..> .> .> .> .>
..> .> .> .> .> So you can't show me even ONE case? That's what I thought.
..> .Because
..> .> .they
..> .> .> .> .don't
..> .> .> .> .> exist.
..> .> .> .>
..> .> .>
..> .>
..>
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..> .> .t
..> .> .> .a
..> .> .> .> .in-bike&hl=en#d4c08e008ef80820
..> .> .> .> .
..> .> .> .> .That one do for you?
..> .> .> .>
..> .> .> .> No: "Another Mountain Biker Proves It: ALL Mountain Bikers Are
..> .Liars"
..> .> .says
..> .> .> .that
..> .> .> .> a mountain biker proved that all mountain bikers are liars. I
..didn't
..> .> .say
..> .> .> ."all
..> .> .> .> mountain bikers are liars". All I know is that every one I have
..MET
..> .has
..> .> .> .lied,
..> .> .> .> including YOU.
..> .> .> .
..> .> .> .I see so you saying ' ALL mountain bikers are liars' isnt you
..saying
..> .all
..> .> .> .mountain bikers are liars.
..> .> .>
..> .> .> I didn't say that. You took it out of context, of course. I said all
..> .the
..> .> .> mountain bikers I have met have lied.
..> .> .Seeing as the link is inthis post, how dare you lie so blatantly.
..> .> .
..> .> .the title of that thread, that YOU wrote is this
..> .> .'Another Mountain Biker Proves It: ALL Mountain Bikers Are Liars'
..> .> .
..> .> .Now , did you, or did you not write in that title 'ALL mountain bikers
..> .are
..> .> .liars'.
..> .>
..> .> Stop taking things out of context. Oh, I forgot: you can't help LYING.
..> .Mr vanderman, in that thread, the title you typed was ALL mountainbikers
..are
..> .liars.
..>
..> Nope, you took that out of context and misquoted it, which, of course, you
..> already know.
..
..Its the TITLE of the thread mr vanderman, explain how the title, ie a
..STATEMENT can be taken out of context.
Easy: you didn't quote it correctly.
..You lied. you can bluff and argue, the facts are simple. There, clearly
..archived is a thread written by you with the title Another biker proves it
..ALL mountain bikers are liars.
..
..In this thread, you said you had never posted such a thing.
..The fact you now try to deny it shows just how sever you pathalogical
..tendency to lie truly is.
..
..Your words mean nothing little man, you make everything up as you go, proven
..fact.
..
..QED (i think thats the term you love)
..
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