Much more about doping



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According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
talking about.
For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected product.
A cocktail we can say.
 
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Tom Kunich

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<Montesquiou> wrote in message
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>
> According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
> talking about.
> For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected
> product.
> A cocktail we can say.


What about the dope you use? I mean, what proof have we that you're not a
heroin addict?
 

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"Tom Kunich" <[email protected] com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> <Montesquiou> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
>> talking about.
>> For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected
>> product.
>> A cocktail we can say.

>
> What about the dope you use? I mean, what proof have we that you're not a
> heroin addict?
>
>


I confess that I am addict to two drugs : Red wine ( one of them is Chateau
des Graviers, a Margaux I found north to Bordeaux some 20 y ago.) and
Banyuls.
No Testo, nor Heroin, nor Jack Daniels.
And you ?
 
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Tom Kunich

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<Montesquiou> wrote in message
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> "Tom Kunich" <[email protected] com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]
>>
>> What about the dope you use? I mean, what proof have we that you're not a
>> heroin addict?

>
> I confess that I am addict to two drugs : Red wine ( one of them is
> Chateau des Graviers, a Margaux I found north to Bordeaux some 20 y ago.)
> and Banyuls. No Testo, nor Heroin, nor Jack Daniels.
> And you ?


Do you expect us to take your word on that?
 

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"Tom Kunich" <[email protected] com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> <Montesquiou> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>>
>> "Tom Kunich" <[email protected] com> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> [email protected]
>>>
>>> What about the dope you use? I mean, what proof have we that you're not
>>> a heroin addict?

>>
>> I confess that I am addict to two drugs : Red wine ( one of them is
>> Chateau des Graviers, a Margaux I found north to Bordeaux some 20 y ago.)
>> and Banyuls. No Testo, nor Heroin, nor Jack Daniels.
>> And you ?

>
> Do you expect us to take your word on that?
>
>


We can ask for a Lab test.
Oh ... Sorry !
 
Montesquiou a écrit :

> According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
> talking about.
> For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected product.
> A cocktail we can say.


Which experts? Any links to go with that? I don't think we need any
such exotic explanations.

My guess is that he just screwed up the dose of ??? before his bad day
and got a good helping of his own red blood cells between times to give
him a good ride the following day. Which doesn't explain why his
testosterone results were out of range (assuming the results are
confirmed...). Any better offers?

During the Roux trial we heard the 4 basics for any professional
cyclist: EPO (to recover from blood removal between races),
testosterone, HGH and insulin. Are there tests for the last two?

Alan
 
Montesquiou wrote:
> "Tom Kunich" <[email protected] com> a écrit dans le message de news:


> > Do you expect us to take your word on that?
> >

> We can ask for a Lab test.
> Oh ... Sorry !


If the Lab doesn't bark, we'll bring a cat for another scan. Tom will
probably volunteer, cuz he's a big *****.
 

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Montesquiou a écrit :

> According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
> talking about.
> For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected
> product.
> A cocktail we can say.


Which experts? Any links to go with that? I don't think we need any
such exotic explanations.

*** Oh ! Sorry

One of them was french, if you don't mind...
http://www.boursier.com/vals/all/le...rait-cacher-d-autres-pratiques-feed-14586.htm
*********

My guess is that he just screwed up the dose of ??? before his bad day
and got a good helping of his own red blood cells between times to give
him a good ride the following day. Which doesn't explain why his
testosterone results were out of range (assuming the results are
confirmed...). Any better offers?

During the Roux trial we heard the 4 basics for any professional
cyclist: EPO (to recover from blood removal between races),
testosterone, HGH and insulin. Are there tests for the last two?

Alan
 
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Mark

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[email protected] wrote:
> Montesquiou a écrit :
>
>
>>According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
>>talking about.
>>For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected product.
>>A cocktail we can say.

>
>
> Which experts? Any links to go with that? I don't think we need any
> such exotic explanations.
>
> My guess is that he just screwed up the dose of ??? before his bad day
> and got a good helping of his own red blood cells between times to give
> him a good ride the following day. Which doesn't explain why his
> testosterone results were out of range (assuming the results are
> confirmed...). Any better offers?
>
> During the Roux trial we heard the 4 basics for any professional
> cyclist: EPO (to recover from blood removal between races),
> testosterone, HGH and insulin. Are there tests for the last two?


Remind me what the insulin is supposed to do?

Mark J.
 
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B. Lafferty

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<Montesquiou> wrote in message
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> "Tom Kunich" <[email protected] com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> [email protected]
>> <Montesquiou> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>>
>>> According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
>>> talking about.
>>> For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected
>>> product.
>>> A cocktail we can say.

>>
>> What about the dope you use? I mean, what proof have we that you're not a
>> heroin addict?
>>
>>

>
> I confess that I am addict to two drugs : Red wine ( one of them is
> Chateau des Graviers, a Margaux I found north to Bordeaux some 20 y ago.)
> and Banyuls.
> No Testo, nor Heroin, nor Jack Daniels.
> And you ?


Tom is rumored on the Internet to suffer from alcoholism, just like Greg
Lemond. I think he's just off his meds.
 
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Keith

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On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:36:08 +0200, <Montesquiou> wrote:

>
>
>According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
>talking about.
>For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected product.
>A cocktail we can say.


Source ?
 
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Keith

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>Which experts? Any links to go with that? I don't think we need any
>such exotic explanations.
>
>*** Oh ! Sorry
>
>One of them was french, if you don't mind...
>http://www.boursier.com/vals/all/le...rait-cacher-d-autres-pratiques-feed-14586.htm


Ok, basically the guy doesnt's know squat more than we do, just pure
conjecture..in fact he knows less as he hasn't heard the confirmation
by the UCI that the T is indeed exogeous, so he can forget about his
little THG story ASAP.
 

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"Keith" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> >Which experts? Any links to go with that? I don't think we need any
>>such exotic explanations.
>>
>>*** Oh ! Sorry
>>
>>One of them was french, if you don't mind...
>>http://www.boursier.com/vals/all/le...rait-cacher-d-autres-pratiques-feed-14586.htm

>
> Ok, basically the guy doesnt's know squat more than we do, just pure
> conjecture..in fact he knows less as he hasn't heard the confirmation
> by the UCI that the T is indeed exogeous, so he can forget about his
> little THG story ASAP.


By telling " Selon Gérard Dine, si Landis s'est effectivement dopé, il
existe deux scenarii possibles." is informative.
IF Landis was IN FACT doped THEN two possibilities.
For the second possibility "the use of a Drug cocktail can explain".
'Professeur Gérard Dine, médecin et chercheur à l'Institut biotechnologique
de Troyes et expert auprès du CNRS.'
 
Montesquiou wrote:
> According some expert there is much more behind the doping affair we are
> talking about.
> For them Landis was probably using another (until today) undetected product.
> A cocktail we can say.


So, they've finally developed a test for panache.
**** Pound will be along to criminalize it in a moment.
 

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