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And what if I have had the vaccine and still carry the disease as a carrier?
Who gets the blame then?
"m nesbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Gymmy Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Good luck selfish. The labour laws do not permit your Nazi behaviour in
my
> > country
>
> Actually, Nazi behaviour would have meant I'd have been killed at age
> 5 when the diagnosis of Diabetes was made. When you use that
> particular description carelessly, you lessen its power.
>
> If you wish to be accurate, call me brutish or self-interested.
> Selfish, however, is also inaccurate. Do you know what a disease
> vector is? With a surpressed immune system, I'm the first to pick up
> what's going around, and I spread it like a lawn sprinkler. So, if
> someone with no immunizations comes too close, they're going down as
> well.
> See, I actually give a damn about other people's health. Doing so has
> the bonus effect of keeping me healthy.
>
> Oh, and, if I can prove a reasonable threat to my health exists from a
> easily remedied situation, I have every right to insist my employer
> takes appropriate steps to remedy it. Which might mean said person
> gets to work in the basement, next to the old adding machines.
>
>
> > "m nesbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > [email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> > > > In article <[email protected]>, mdd <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >"David Wright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > >news:[email protected]...
> > > > >> In article <[email protected]>,
> > > > >> ToolPackinMama <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >> >hotmoon wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> My little boy had a bad reaction to polio vaccination. He
will
> > never
> > > > >> >> get another vaccination for as long as I am alive.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >I never vaccinated any of my three kids, and today they are all
> > adults,
> > > > >> >and healthier than their contemporaries.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >FWIW.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It's not worth much. The main reason you can get away with this
sort
> > > > >> of thing is that you're basically leeching off others, who *do*
> > > > >> vaccinate their kids, thus keeping herd immunity going and
allowing
> > > > >> you a free ride.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -- >
> > > > > If this is true, what is your problem? Are you concerned with her
> > child's
> > > > >health? Or are you upset that the child gets a "free ride"?
> > > >
> > > > No, tools, I'm concerend that if everyone tries to use this
strategy,
> > > > it stops working. I don't approve of even implicitly suggesting
that
> > > > not vaccinating is a good idea.
> > > >
> > > > -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
> > > > These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
> > > > "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
> > > > were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
> > >
> > > And just a little heads up from those of us with somehing to fear
> > > because of the refusal of parents to vaccinate their kids:
> > >
> > > I'm immunosuppressed. I have one working kidney that isn't mine, and
> > > I'm pretty healthy now, partly because I don't run across scads of
> > > people with whooping cough, rubella, measles et al. Yes, you're
> > > putting your kids at risk with vaccinations, just as you are when you
> > > take aspirin, St. Johns Wart, or when you cross the street. But they
> > > are calculated risks, as is everything else in life.
> > > So, if you wish to provide your children with an immunization free
> > > existence, be my guest. Just move to an island somewhere, where your
> > > kids will not be a real, definable danger to me.
> > > I will not try to convince you to immunize. But know that your
> > > children will never be invited into my house, and if one of them comes
> > > to work one day an a new employee, and I find out, I will get them
> > > transferred, fired, or demoted to another location. Because your lack
> > > of concern for MY well being makes them a real risk to me.
Who gets the blame then?
"m nesbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Gymmy Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Good luck selfish. The labour laws do not permit your Nazi behaviour in
my
> > country
>
> Actually, Nazi behaviour would have meant I'd have been killed at age
> 5 when the diagnosis of Diabetes was made. When you use that
> particular description carelessly, you lessen its power.
>
> If you wish to be accurate, call me brutish or self-interested.
> Selfish, however, is also inaccurate. Do you know what a disease
> vector is? With a surpressed immune system, I'm the first to pick up
> what's going around, and I spread it like a lawn sprinkler. So, if
> someone with no immunizations comes too close, they're going down as
> well.
> See, I actually give a damn about other people's health. Doing so has
> the bonus effect of keeping me healthy.
>
> Oh, and, if I can prove a reasonable threat to my health exists from a
> easily remedied situation, I have every right to insist my employer
> takes appropriate steps to remedy it. Which might mean said person
> gets to work in the basement, next to the old adding machines.
>
>
> > "m nesbitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > [email protected] (David Wright) wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> > > > In article <[email protected]>, mdd <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >"David Wright" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > >news:[email protected]...
> > > > >> In article <[email protected]>,
> > > > >> ToolPackinMama <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >> >hotmoon wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> My little boy had a bad reaction to polio vaccination. He
will
> > never
> > > > >> >> get another vaccination for as long as I am alive.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >I never vaccinated any of my three kids, and today they are all
> > adults,
> > > > >> >and healthier than their contemporaries.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >FWIW.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It's not worth much. The main reason you can get away with this
sort
> > > > >> of thing is that you're basically leeching off others, who *do*
> > > > >> vaccinate their kids, thus keeping herd immunity going and
allowing
> > > > >> you a free ride.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -- >
> > > > > If this is true, what is your problem? Are you concerned with her
> > child's
> > > > >health? Or are you upset that the child gets a "free ride"?
> > > >
> > > > No, tools, I'm concerend that if everyone tries to use this
strategy,
> > > > it stops working. I don't approve of even implicitly suggesting
that
> > > > not vaccinating is a good idea.
> > > >
> > > > -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
> > > > These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
> > > > "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
> > > > were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
> > >
> > > And just a little heads up from those of us with somehing to fear
> > > because of the refusal of parents to vaccinate their kids:
> > >
> > > I'm immunosuppressed. I have one working kidney that isn't mine, and
> > > I'm pretty healthy now, partly because I don't run across scads of
> > > people with whooping cough, rubella, measles et al. Yes, you're
> > > putting your kids at risk with vaccinations, just as you are when you
> > > take aspirin, St. Johns Wart, or when you cross the street. But they
> > > are calculated risks, as is everything else in life.
> > > So, if you wish to provide your children with an immunization free
> > > existence, be my guest. Just move to an island somewhere, where your
> > > kids will not be a real, definable danger to me.
> > > I will not try to convince you to immunize. But know that your
> > > children will never be invited into my house, and if one of them comes
> > > to work one day an a new employee, and I find out, I will get them
> > > transferred, fired, or demoted to another location. Because your lack
> > > of concern for MY well being makes them a real risk to me.