My take on Cycling



Ray1966

Member
Jun 2, 2011
22
12
0
My name is Ray, and I’m 44 years old. I’ve been cycling for quite a long time now. Throughout the years, I’ve been quietly going out riding my 40 mile a day rides and just enjoying myself. I’m not a racer, or a competitive cyclist, I just enjoy the health benefits and overall pleasure you get from riding a bike. My bike of choice is the traditional Road Bike. But whatever kind, style or brand you ride is great as long as you’re out and riding.

With the age of the Internet, and Forums such as this one bringing people together, I have noticed something that just bothers me. I know this will be sort of long, but I’ll try to keep it simple. Also, it’s not just about cycling; it applies to all forms of recreation or hobbies. But for this post I’m referring to cycling

First up, the manufactures. Most of us are not rich, were not able to spend crazy amounts of money on a bicycle, nor do we need to spend a lot to enjoy Cycling. The only time you need to do that is if you race, or do competitive events. But for most of us it’s not necessary. But what bothers me, is how Manufactures list some of there bikes as “entry level, the perfect bike for the beginning cyclist”. Well I’m not a beginning Cyclist. I’m a Cyclist that because of life and responsibilities and bills to pay I’m on a tight budget. So the sales tactic they like to use is let’s shame people into spending more money on something by making them think, Hey, I’m not a beginner people may laugh at me or make fun of me or not ride with or talk to me if I ride this bike So I better get this more expensive model. The same goes for the snobby cyclist (More on that in a second).

The second: The snobby cyclist that thinks if you don’t have or buy a multi thousand dollar ride, you’re not a cyclist. They will tell you you’re bike is good, BUT you may want to upgrade this or that, get one of these. Hell, I can afford it so can you. The shifters are the lower Sora or whatever the brand is there talking about. Well, I’ll tell you something. I ride a Giant Defy 3 with Sora. ( $700.00 Entry level beginner bike according to the company) This bike is very comfortable and it suits me to a T! I enjoy riding it everyday I’ve had this bike since 2009 and I have over 5000 miles on. I’ve never had one problem with the front or rear shifting. It’s still just as smooth and quiet today as it was the day I brought it home. That goes for any of the other components on the bike as well. Just keep up the maintained schedule (like you have to on any thing else) and you will be fine.

Now, I could go on and on, but I won’t I think you get a part of the picture. But I will say this. When it comes to Cycling, it doesn’t matter whether it’s an old bike, new bike, used bike or what style. It’s NOT a bike popularity contest, or a competition about who’s got the newest latest thing or upgrading to this or that. It IS about getting out on your bike, enjoying the outdoors, the good things that you’re doing for your health and body. Helping maintain your personal well being. Don’t be intimidated by people telling you to get this, or don’t get that. There not going to give you money to get it. So just follow this simple guideline.

Figure out what kind of bike you want. Sit down and figure out your budget that you can afford to spend on a bike. Then go looking at all different brands. Test ride as many as you can. Write down what you liked and didn’t like. What bike was the most comfortable and felt the best. Don’t worry if it’s not the highest priced, most flashy bike in the area, it’s the bike YOU LIKE. Then once you find it, ride it with pride. Don’t be embarrassed or feel bad in anyway if it doesn’t have top of the line components on it. If it works well for the kind of riding you do, then that’s what matters. You purchased a bike to ride, not a bike to bring home and spend all your time, and money working on it or changing stuff out that isn’t necessary. And remember, if you run across these people that look down on you or give you advice that you need to do this or upgrade that. Just look at them and say (If they will talk to you that is) “I purchased this bike because I really like it. It’s comfortable and it suits and works well for me. For me, it’s about the riding and the benefits I get from it and I don’t really care about the image that everyone thinks I or we as cyclists should have.

Also, if you want to wear a Cycling jersey with team logos on it, go right ahead. Some snobby cyclists say that a wearing a jersey with logos on it will make other cyclists laugh at you because you think you ride and or are sponsored by the company or team on the jersey. Well, if you run across one of these, just say. Ok, you can laugh all you want, but that means I can laugh at all the people wearing NASCAR, NFL, NBA, MLB and all other jerseys and jackets because I know they don’t work or play for them.

So just have fun, put on what you want, go outside get on your bike and go for a nice care free ride and enjoy yourself. In the end, you can have the satisfaction of knowing you got the best bike you could get, the bike you liked the best and feel proud of it.

Happy miles everyone.
 
What an excellent post :). I just recently decided to get back into cycling as a hobby. I used to cycle a LOT when I was younger, but not so much anymore. I've been really into spin classes this past year, though. Well, earlier this week I went out & bought the bike that I could most realistically afford - I decided on the Trek 7.2 FX. Not a high end bike by any means, but I've REALLY enjoyed it so far riding around my neighborhood. Like you, I have bills, pay for a personal trainer, etc. I figured this would be a huge upgrade to my stupid Schwinn Sidewinder that I've rarely used because it sucks so bad. I had an old Trek Jazz Voltage that I rode for about 13 years & was still perfect when I decided to sell it when I moved. When I decided to get back into cycling I wanted to go w/ the Trek brand again just because I was familiar with the quality. I can't wait to get it on the trails!

Whenever I develop an interest, I typically join a forum to get more perspective on it. Hence why I'm here. Snobs are EVERYWHERE!!! For example:

1. I belong to a perfume/cologne community. Lots of people think that if you don't spend $200 on a niche brand, you're not serious about perfumery. You wear Pink Sugar? Blasphemy!

2. I belong to a health & fitness community. You don't do high intensity training interval training, P90X, lift heavy, & carefully control every little thing you put in your mouth? You're out!

3. I belong to a piercing & tattoo community. Your idea of correct tattoo/piercing aftercare is different? Your method of stretching your earlobes is different? You haven't spent over 100 hours under the needle? You obviously don't know ****!

Obviously I'm exaggerating some, & I typically let those type of comments roll off my back. What irks me is when I'm there asking about a problem, or if I have a question about something, all the snobs do is preach at me. That doesn't help at all. Your post really makes me glad I'm here, "entry level" bike and all :).
 
Originally Posted by Ray1966 .


My name is Ray, and I’m 44 years old. I’ve been cycling for quite a long time now. Throughout the years, I’ve been quietly going out riding my 40 mile a day rides and just enjoying myself. I’m not a racer, or a competitive cyclist, I just enjoy the health benefits and overall pleasure you get from riding a bike. My bike of choice is the traditional Road Bike. But whatever kind, style or brand you ride is great as long as you’re out and riding.

With the age of the Internet, and Forums such as this one bringing people together, I have noticed something that just bothers me. I know this will be sort of long, but I’ll try to keep it simple. Also, it’s not just about cycling; it applies to all forms of recreation or hobbies. But for this post I’m referring to cycling

First up, the manufactures. Most of us are not rich, were not able to spend crazy amounts of money on a bicycle, nor do we need to spend a lot to enjoy Cycling. The only time you need to do that is if you race, or do competitive events. But for most of us it’s not necessary. But what bothers me, is how Manufactures list some of there bikes as “entry level, the perfect bike for the beginning cyclist”. Well I’m not a beginning Cyclist. I’m a Cyclist that because of life and responsibilities and bills to pay I’m on a tight budget. So the sales tactic they like to use is let’s shame people into spending more money on something by making them think, Hey, I’m not a beginner people may laugh at me or make fun of me or not ride with or talk to me if I ride this bike So I better get this more expensive model. The same goes for the snobby cyclist (More on that in a second).

The second: The snobby cyclist that thinks if you don’t have or buy a multi thousand dollar ride, you’re not a cyclist. They will tell you you’re bike is good, BUT you may want to upgrade this or that, get one of these. Hell, I can afford it so can you. The shifters are the lower Sora or whatever the brand is there talking about. Well, I’ll tell you something. I ride a Giant Defy 3 with Sora. ( $700.00 Entry level beginner bike according to the company) This bike is very comfortable and it suits me to a T! I enjoy riding it everyday I’ve had this bike since 2009 and I have over 5000 miles on. I’ve never had one problem with the front or rear shifting. It’s still just as smooth and quiet today as it was the day I brought it home. That goes for any of the other components on the bike as well. Just keep up the maintained schedule (like you have to on any thing else) and you will be fine.

Now, I could go on and on, but I won’t I think you get a part of the picture. But I will say this. When it comes to Cycling, it doesn’t matter whether it’s an old bike, new bike, used bike or what style. It’s NOT a bike popularity contest, or a competition about who’s got the newest latest thing or upgrading to this or that. It IS about getting out on your bike, enjoying the outdoors, the good things that you’re doing for your health and body. Helping maintain your personal well being. Don’t be intimidated by people telling you to get this, or don’t get that. There not going to give you money to get it. So just follow this simple guideline.

Figure out what kind of bike you want. Sit down and figure out your budget that you can afford to spend on a bike. Then go looking at all different brands. Test ride as many as you can. Write down what you liked and didn’t like. What bike was the most comfortable and felt the best. Don’t worry if it’s not the highest priced, most flashy bike in the area, it’s the bike YOU LIKE. Then once you find it, ride it with pride. Don’t be embarrassed or feel bad in anyway if it doesn’t have top of the line components on it. If it works well for the kind of riding you do, then that’s what matters. You purchased a bike to ride, not a bike to bring home and spend all your time, and money working on it or changing stuff out that isn’t necessary. And remember, if you run across these people that look down on you or give you advice that you need to do this or upgrade that. Just look at them and say (If they will talk to you that is) “I purchased this bike because I really like it. It’s comfortable and it suits and works well for me. For me, it’s about the riding and the benefits I get from it and I don’t really care about the image that everyone thinks I or we as cyclists should have.

Also, if you want to wear a Cycling jersey with team logos on it, go right ahead. Some snobby cyclists say that a wearing a jersey with logos on it will make other cyclists laugh at you because you think you ride and or are sponsored by the company or team on the jersey. Well, if you run across one of these, just say. Ok, you can laugh all you want, but that means I can laugh at all the people wearing NASCAR, NFL, NBA, MLB and all other jerseys and jackets because I know they don’t work or play for them.

So just have fun, put on what you want, go outside get on your bike and go for a nice care free ride and enjoy yourself. In the end, you can have the satisfaction of knowing you got the best bike you could get, the bike you liked the best and feel proud of it.

Happy miles everyone.
It is too bad that this forum program won't do "stickys" like the last one. This is a post that needs to be stuck to the top of Bicycle Buying Advise.
 
Hey guys.

Thanks for the kind words. Also congrats pantlesspenguin on your Trek. I have a 1983 Trek road bike model 613 that I still ride at least once a week. bought it brand new ( That dates me doesn't it! ) It's been, and still is a great old bike.

Once again, thanks for the replys.

Ride safe /img/vbsmilies/smilies/smile.gif
 
Maybe if you worked some overtime you could save up enough money to buy those Shimano 105 parts you are lusting after.

What? That was funny.
 
  • Like
Reactions: danfoz
I would reply but by law I can't talk to anyone that doesnt own at least Ultegra. :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: danfoz
Welcome to the Forum Ray. You will find that there are quite a few members here who agree with you on your take. There are also quite a few who wont. Thats a good thing because it keeps the flow of conversation going.
 
Oh yes - a very good post.

One thing i find funny about people buying all the kit is when it comes to cycling, a better bike can give you an advantage - but it's the rider that matters.

for me (like my bike) I have a single speed - FAST.
When I was a courier my theory was that if I didn't turn up to the delivery sweating and out of breath - you're not going fast enough.
(It's no small thing to get the nickname "Turbo" when your in that game)

Now i am no where near as fast as I was then as i am only commuting. - It used to be that speed at which i now sprint - was my cruising speed.
So I have slowed down quite a bit - and no longer have my freakish chicken drumstick legs
Still i'm pretty quick.

and i must say that My favourite person to overtake is the guy riding his £3000 carbon fibre Bianchi kitted out for the Tour de france.
on my humble little langster which cost me £300 -

I Don't do it because im racing - i do it because i enjoy cycling fast.
and i over take every single person on my commute with the exception of 1 man.

he's a black guy and I only know him as speedy gonzales (the name i have given him in my mind)
I raced him proper when i was a courier, and he is the ONLY "civilian" to ever give me a run for my money
I see him occasionally riding his racer through regents park in the morning, turning right onto mary-lee-bone road at the junction.
and he moves.
I wouldn't want to race him again - cos he'd kick my ****.

And in all honesty, unless your a speed freak - like us.
spending big money on a bike is pointless - and even if you are a speed freak - it's in the legs, not the wheels
 
Snobs suck, assuming one is a snob because they ride a bike only an investment banker could afford sucks more. Sadly the people that usually wave back at me are racers on pricey machines, many recreational cyclist look at me like the Harley guys used to when I rode a Ninja. It's always great though when you crack just one nut and get a wave back from a completely different rider demographic.

Cycling provides a lovely macro view of people in general, cool ones surrounded by coconuts. Your sentiment is right on though... ride the bike you want and just enjoy yourself.

Welcome!
 
Sounds like a post for "My Bloody Soapbox" if there ever was one./img/vbsmilies/smilies/smile.gif

Regardless, wise words that are applicable in any and every walk of life...basically what I'm reading is: don't take yourself, or those you come across in your cycling journey, too seriously - life, like cycling, is fleeting...

Born in '66 as well. Good year - wasn't it?
 
Hi everybody I have just joined the forum and desperately need advice about storage facilities. We are non residents on a comment of 90 composing of apartments and duplex. We have an apartment on the third floor with no lift. We love cycling and have requested a bike rack for the car park to store our bikes. It has been refused and we have been informed that we must take our bikes up three flights of stairs after every use. Being in our sixties, although quite active, my husband has a hernia and I have a hip problem. We are fining it a real strain taking them up and I am quite concerned that if we trip we will be badly hurt. Does anybody have any advice as to how to overcome the communities objection. If we cannot resolve this issue we will probably have to sell the bikes and revert back to the car. Any advice would be appreciated.   Cheers Chris jones Sent from my iPad
 
Amen, Ray, very nice post. I'm sure that your mileage and conditioning could put many here to shame. As I re-enter the cycling community, I'm just now realizing how varied and complex the subcultures are. But in the end....your post pretty much says it all. Cheers, Steve
 
I agree it was a good post, but I will defend spending some coin a bit, since I did just that this spring.

I had some "extra" money this spring, and I had always wanted a titanium bike--from the time I bought the steel Schwinn I had been riding since I was 14. But I didn't buy it to race--I bought it to ride, for now locally and on the occasional supported tour. Sometime in the future, I could see myself going on an unsupported long distance ride. So, not only did I get a titanium touring frame, but I got what I felt were durable components, meaning most of the Ultegra group, which is not cheap. I hope to have and ride this bike for the rest of my life, recognizing that I'll have to replace a part here and there from time to time. It's not fast up hills (that's part me, of course), but the more I ride, the longer I can hang with somewhat speedy folks in a group or pace line doing 20+ MPH.

I'm also a bit of a tech junkie, so I do like to add gizmos here and there if they serve a useful purpose for me--so that includes the clothing, cyclocomputer, iPhone mount, tools, seat pack, Camelbak water bottles (can't imagine wearing the back pack in the heat), and so on. I didn't get road shoes/clips, but MTB shoes and SPD pedals so that I could walk like a normal human when I'm taking a break.

It all depends on what you want to do, and how much you can/want to spend on doing it. I'd agree that someone decked out in full race regalia on a sub-12 lb bike would look silly struggling to do 10 MPH on a flat with a tailwind, but that's their prerogative.

I do agree that too much of the typical LBS/manufacturer approach is pushing race bikes on people who would be much better suited getting something more casual (like a touring bike).

Jason
 
Originally Posted by jpr95 .

I agree it was a good post, but I will defend spending some coin a bit, since I did just that this spring.

I had some "extra" money this spring, and I had always wanted a titanium bike--from the time I bought the steel Schwinn I had been riding since I was 14. But I didn't buy it to race--I bought it to ride, for now locally and on the occasional supported tour. Sometime in the future, I could see myself going on an unsupported long distance ride. So, not only did I get a titanium touring frame, but I got what I felt were durable components, meaning most of the Ultegra group, which is not cheap. I hope to have and ride this bike for the rest of my life, recognizing that I'll have to replace a part here and there from time to time. It's not fast up hills (that's part me, of course), but the more I ride, the longer I can hang with somewhat speedy folks in a group or pace line doing 20+ MPH.

I'm also a bit of a tech junkie, so I do like to add gizmos here and there if they serve a useful purpose for me--so that includes the clothing, cyclocomputer, iPhone mount, tools, seat pack, Camelbak water bottles (can't imagine wearing the back pack in the heat), and so on. I didn't get road shoes/clips, but MTB shoes and SPD pedals so that I could walk like a normal human when I'm taking a break.

It all depends on what you want to do, and how much you can/want to spend on doing it. I'd agree that someone decked out in full race regalia on a sub-12 lb bike would look silly struggling to do 10 MPH on a flat with a tailwind, but that's their prerogative.

I do agree that too much of the typical LBS/manufacturer approach is pushing race bikes on people who would be much better suited getting something more casual (like a touring bike).

Jason
Hey Jason nothing wrong with what you are doing. Cycling like everything else is like you stated someones personal perogative.

As far as marketing goes bike manufactures are in business soley to sell bikes and making bikes is secondary. With that said the biggest bang for the buck is what they are all going for in their marketing approach.

Consumers of all products need to be aware of what they need or want and not allow someones marketing manager make their decisions for them.
 
My all time favorite bike was an "entry level" Nishiki Landau. It had Tange 900 seamed tubing and the bike snobs looked down their noses at it, but I did EVERYTHING on that bike. Long club rides up to 100 mile centuries, the occasional commute, Wednesday night time trials, Tuesday night criteriums, then some sanctioned races after I got my licence. Even some inadvertent cyclocross when country roads that started out paved turned out to be under construction for 20 or more miles. The biggest mistake I ever made was letting the bike snobs convince me that it wasn't good enough and I should get something better. Sold it to make room for a Vitus 979 (which was the bike du jour at that time) and regretted it deeply - the Vitus was a miserable excuse for a bike.
 
I agree! I ride a mid 1980"s Lotus and it works just fine for me. And I am a 20 miler a day rider!
 

Similar threads