Nearly taken out again

[coyoteboy]

No, not a date, but by a young lady in a car. She overtook me over the
crest of a hill in a 30 (one way) and before she had even finished
passing me she indicated and turned left. It was all I could do to brake
in time, let alone get a reg plate - I had my rear wheel leaving the
ground in the effort lol. She wasn't going "fast" etc, "just driving
along". I was sorely tempted to ease up on the brakes and take out her
rear wing - im fairly good at falling without injury - but there was
other traffic around so I thought twice about it.

I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give me
plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I wasn't
there. I only wish I had got her number.

 

[Alistair Gunn]

coyoteboy twisted the electrons to say:
> I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give me
> plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I wasn't
> there. I only wish I had got her number.

Presumably one you where no longer visible through the windscreen you
ceased to exist? Or at least, since "cyclists are slow"[1] one you where
no longer visible through the windscreen you must have been a long way
behind!

[1] In the same way that we don't pay *any* taxes!
--
These opinions might not even be mine ...
Let alone connected with my employer ...

 

[coyoteboy]

Alistair Gunn wrote:
> coyoteboy twisted the electrons to say:
>> I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give me
>> plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I wasn't
>> there. I only wish I had got her number.
>
> Presumably one you where no longer visible through the windscreen you
> ceased to exist? Or at least, since "cyclists are slow"[1] one you where
> no longer visible through the windscreen you must have been a long way
> behind!
>
> [1] In the same way that we don't pay *any* taxes!

Its the whole schrodingers cyclist theory

 

[roger merriman]

On 28 Aug, 14:20, Alistair Gunn <[email protected]> wrote:
> coyoteboy twisted the electrons to say:
>
> > I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give me
> > plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I wasn't
> > there. I only wish I had got her number.
>
> Presumably one you where no longer visible through the windscreen you
> ceased to exist? Or at least, since "cyclists are slow"[1] one you where
> no longer visible through the windscreen you must have been a long way
> behind!
>
> [1] In the same way that we don't pay *any* taxes!
> --
> These opinions might not even be mine ...
> Let alone connected with my employer ...

yes i think that plays a part, had some one misread my speed in
kingston a while back, nor did he notice the speed bump! well until he
mounted it, made one hell of a noise. shock a few fillings out i
guess. he ended up behind me at the lights in a funny angle really
trying not to look my way.....

roger

 

[Paul Boyd]

roger merriman said the following on 28/08/2007 16:59:
> he ended up behind me at the lights in a funny angle really
> trying not to look my way.....

It's always funny watching someone who's desperately trying not to see
you

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

 

[Niall Wallace]

"Alistair Gunn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> coyoteboy twisted the electrons to say:
>> I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give me
>> plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I wasn't
>> there. I only wish I had got her number.
>
> Presumably one you where no longer visible through the windscreen you
> ceased to exist? Or at least, since "cyclists are slow"[1] one you where
> no longer visible through the windscreen you must have been a long way
> behind!
>
> [1] In the same way that we don't pay *any* taxes!
> --
> These opinions might not even be mine ...
> Let alone connected with my employer ...

or Misjudged speed and thought you were miles back and you were in a blind
area. (or Didn't look)
or Just plain arsed up thought the junction was further away, then either
forgot you were there (ie didn't look) and turnd left or didn't have the
sense to abandon the overtaking manouver and make the turning manouver after
you had passed the junction.
or just a plain old ****.

I have in the past thought to my self, If i was on the other bike i would
have hit them, thats not because it owuld be deliberate but because the
brakes on it were badly adujsted at the time (now it has no wheels to brake
against)

Niall

 

[Nigel]

"coyoteboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No, not a date, but by a young lady in a car. She overtook me over the
> crest of a hill in a 30 (one way) and before she had even finished passing
> me she indicated and turned left. It was all I could do to brake in time,
> let alone get a reg plate - I had my rear wheel leaving the ground in the
> effort lol. She wasn't going "fast" etc, "just driving along". I was
> sorely tempted to ease up on the brakes and take out her rear wing - im
> fairly good at falling without injury - but there was other traffic around
> so I thought twice about it.
>
> I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give me
> plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I wasn't
> there. I only wish I had got her number.

Having had this done by a bus - with 10 feet of it ahead of me, and 20 feet
of it still behind me as he turned I tend to regard this as an act of
malice. We were not at a junction, no lights, just a road with a left turn
and someone that doesn't give a s&*t for my existence. Watching so many of
the antics of these idiots would be boring if it wasn't my life at stake.

'I don't have time to wait so you must die'.

By the way, my favourites are the ones that nearly tear my arm off passing
at 70mph, flying off across the road to reach the correct passing distance -
25 yards ahead of me.

But it will always happen as long as no-one teaches or enforces correct road
behaviour.

Nigel

 

[Tony Raven]

"Niall Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> or Misjudged speed and thought you were miles back and you were in a
> blind area. (or Didn't look)

Or went through the typical thought process: Obstruction; pull out; done;
what shall we have for tea; Tesco's; Left turn......

>
> I have in the past thought to my self, If i was on the other bike i
> would have hit them, thats not because it owuld be deliberate but
> because the brakes on it were badly adujsted at the time (now it has
> no wheels to brake against)
>

That's why I have brakes on my fixie. My leg brakes are not that good and
I can't do the fancy courier braking stuff.



--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

 

[Terry]

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (coyoteboy) wrote:

> No, not a date, but by a young lady in a car. She overtook me over
> the crest of a hill in a 30 (one way) and before she had even
> finished passing me she indicated and turned left. It was all I could
> do to brake in time, let alone get a reg plate - I had my rear wheel
> leaving the ground in the effort lol. She wasn't going "fast" etc,
> "just driving along". I was sorely tempted to ease up on the brakes
> and take out her rear wing - im fairly good at falling without injury
> - but there was other traffic around so I thought twice about it.
>
> I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give
> me plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I
> wasn't there. I only wish I had got her number.
>

Sounds like this particular driver lacks space-time judgement skills.

Others who do similar seem to range from malevolent morons to the
momentarily distracted.

 

[CoyoteBoy]

On 29 Aug, 23:46, [email protected] (Terry) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>
> [email protected] (coyoteboy) wrote:
> > No, not a date, but by a young lady in a car. She overtook me over
> > the crest of a hill in a 30 (one way) and before she had even
> > finished passing me she indicated and turned left. It was all I could
> > do to brake in time, let alone get a reg plate - I had my rear wheel
> > leaving the ground in the effort lol. She wasn't going "fast" etc,
> > "just driving along". I was sorely tempted to ease up on the brakes
> > and take out her rear wing - im fairly good at falling without injury
> > - but there was other traffic around so I thought twice about it.
>
> > I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give
> > me plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I
> > wasn't there. I only wish I had got her number.
>
> Sounds like this particular driver lacks space-time judgement skills.
>
> Others who do similar seem to range from malevolent morons to the
> momentarily distracted.

It does seem to span age/sex/stereotype barriers on the whole, though
(and not trying to be outrageous but...) it is more often than not a
young female that does this sort of move. Older women seem to take
great care in their driving on the whole, but younger ones seem a
little "ditzy". In the 10 or so times Ive had cars almost hit me, 7
have been female 35 or under. Maybe its the time of day i ride
generally (school run time during the morning, rush hour at night)

 

[Roger Merriman]

CoyoteBoy <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 29 Aug, 23:46, [email protected] (Terry) wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> >
> > [email protected] (coyoteboy) wrote:
> > > No, not a date, but by a young lady in a car. She overtook me over
> > > the crest of a hill in a 30 (one way) and before she had even
> > > finished passing me she indicated and turned left. It was all I could
> > > do to brake in time, let alone get a reg plate - I had my rear wheel
> > > leaving the ground in the effort lol. She wasn't going "fast" etc,
> > > "just driving along". I was sorely tempted to ease up on the brakes
> > > and take out her rear wing - im fairly good at falling without injury
> > > - but there was other traffic around so I thought twice about it.
> >
> > > I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give
> > > me plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I
> > > wasn't there. I only wish I had got her number.
> >
> > Sounds like this particular driver lacks space-time judgement skills.
> >
> > Others who do similar seem to range from malevolent morons to the
> > momentarily distracted.
>
> It does seem to span age/sex/stereotype barriers on the whole, though
> (and not trying to be outrageous but...) it is more often than not a
> young female that does this sort of move. Older women seem to take
> great care in their driving on the whole, but younger ones seem a
> little "ditzy". In the 10 or so times Ive had cars almost hit me, 7
> have been female 35 or under. Maybe its the time of day i ride
> generally (school run time during the morning, rush hour at night)

school runs are fairly obvous with the distracted parent etc.

roger
--
www.rogermerriman.com

 

[Roger Merriman]

Paul Boyd <usenet.is.worse@plusnet> wrote:

> roger merriman said the following on 28/08/2007 16:59:
> > he ended up behind me at the lights in a funny angle really
> > trying not to look my way.....
>
> It's always funny watching someone who's desperately trying not to see
> you

if your mean you look in there direction...

roger
--
www.rogermerriman.com

 

[[email protected]]

On 30 Aug, 02:29, CoyoteBoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 29 Aug, 23:46, [email protected] (Terry) wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
>
> > [email protected] (coyoteboy) wrote:
> > > No, not a date, but by a young lady in a car. She overtook me over
> > > the crest of a hill in a 30 (one way) and before she had even
> > > finished passing me she indicated and turned left. It was all I could
> > > do to brake in time, let alone get a reg plate - I had my rear wheel
> > > leaving the ground in the effort lol. She wasn't going "fast" etc,
> > > "just driving along". I was sorely tempted to ease up on the brakes
> > > and take out her rear wing - im fairly good at falling without injury
> > > - but there was other traffic around so I thought twice about it.
>
> > > I just don't understand how someone can overtake a cyclist (and give
> > > me plenty of room, 4 or 5 feet) and then cut right across me like I
> > > wasn't there. I only wish I had got her number.
>
> > Sounds like this particular driver lacks space-time judgement skills.
>
> > Others who do similar seem to range from malevolent morons to the
> > momentarily distracted.
>
> It does seem to span age/sex/stereotype barriers on the whole, though
> (and not trying to be outrageous but...) it is more often than not a
> young female that does this sort of move. Older women seem to take
> great care in their driving on the whole, but younger ones seem a
> little "ditzy". In the 10 or so times Ive had cars almost hit me, 7
> have been female 35 or under. Maybe its the time of day i ride
> generally (school run time during the morning, rush hour at night)

You do seem to attract loons
- remind me not to go anywhere near you when your cycling. Magnetic
attraction or what?

Sniper8052

 

[Martin Dann]

CoyoteBoy wrote:

> It does seem to span age/sex/stereotype barriers on the whole, though
> (and not trying to be outrageous but...) it is more often than not a
> young female that does this sort of move. Older women seem to take
> great care in their driving on the whole, but younger ones seem a
> little "ditzy". In the 10 or so times Ive had cars almost hit me, 7
> have been female 35 or under. Maybe its the time of day i ride
> generally (school run time during the morning, rush hour at night)

TBH I find the people most likely to cause me to take
action to avoid collision are middle aged men. They also
seem to be most likely to explode if I am in front of them
on a road.

 

[Paul Boyd]

Martin Dann said the following on 31/08/2007 00:39:

> TBH I find the people most likely to cause me to take action to avoid
> collision are middle aged men. They also seem to be most likely to
> explode if I am in front of them on a road.

These tend to be the same group of people who sit there seething in a
traffic jam instead of just waiting it out - either of which results in
getting nowhere but one of which raises stress levels to no end.

Just look at them as imminent heart attack victims.

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

 

[The other view point, there is one you know...http]

On Aug 29, 12:48 am, "Nigel" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "coyoteboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>

>
> But it will always happen as long as no-one teaches or enforces correct road
> behaviour.

Who does this regarding cyclists?

yesterday, Boy 12-13 riding on the pavement, part of the pavement is
undulated (plenty of drops) so it was fun for him. He gets the the
last one, as i'm coming level straight onto the road, no looking, no
life saver, straight onto the road. Lucky for him I was going slow, he
got a term of abuse via the window.

This is only one week after a 15 was also involved in an accident, not
200 mtrs away, road closed for hours. The kid is in a bad way (and
likely to loose his leg) no update via local papers.

 

[Marc Brett]

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:59:29 -0000, "The other view point, there is one
you know...http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/03.htm"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Aug 29, 12:48 am, "Nigel" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "coyoteboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>
>>
>> But it will always happen as long as no-one teaches or enforces correct road
>> behaviour.
>
>Who does this regarding cyclists?
>
>yesterday, Boy 12-13 riding on the pavement, part of the pavement is
>undulated (plenty of drops) so it was fun for him. He gets the the
>last one, as i'm coming level straight onto the road, no looking, no
>life saver, straight onto the road. Lucky for him I was going slow, he
>got a term of abuse via the window.

Golly! What a surprise. Children acting like children.

>This is only one week after a 15 was also involved in an accident, not
>200 mtrs away, road closed for hours. The kid is in a bad way (and
>likely to loose his leg) no update via local paper.

Are you implying this was the the victim's fault?

 

[Daniel Barlow]

Marc Brett wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:59:29 -0000, "The other view point, there is one
>> yesterday, Boy 12-13 riding on the pavement, [...] no looking, no
>>life saver, straight onto the road.
>
> Golly! What a surprise. Children acting like children.

If he'd been 6 I'd agree with you there, but a 12 year old ought to have
enough nous to look behind him when changing path. He'll be doing GCSEs
in only a year.

> Lucky for him I was going slow, he got a term of abuse via the window.

Of course what you meant to say here was "I had already identified him
as a possible hazard so I was going slow", because if it was merely a
matter of luck that you didn't hit him then your driving also sucks.


-dan

 

[The other view point, there is one you know...http]

On Aug 31, 2:48 pm, Daniel Barlow <[email protected]> wrote:
> Marc Brett wrote:
> > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:59:29 -0000, "The other view point, there is one
> >> yesterday, Boy 12-13 riding on the pavement, [...] no looking, no
> >>life saver, straight onto the road.
>
> > Golly! What a surprise. Children acting like children.
>
> If he'd been 6 I'd agree with you there, but a 12 year old ought to have
> enough nous to look behind him when changing path. He'll be doing GCSEs
> in only a year.
>
> > Lucky for him I was going slow, he got a term of abuse via the window.
>
> Of course what you meant to say here was "I had already identified him
> as a possible hazard so I was going slow", because if it was merely a
> matter of luck that you didn't hit him then your driving also sucks.
>
> -dan

indeed, and since i didn't hit him (rather, he me...) I must be a very
superior road user

 

[The other view point, there is one you know...http]

On Aug 31, 9:56 am, Marc Brett <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:59:29 -0000, "The other view point, there is one
> you know...http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/03.htm"
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Aug 29, 12:48 am, "Nigel" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "coyoteboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >> But it will always happen as long as no-one teaches or enforces correct road
> >> behaviour.
>
> >Who does this regarding cyclists?
>
> >yesterday, Boy 12-13 riding on the pavement, part of the pavement is
> >undulated (plenty of drops) so it was fun for him. He gets the the
> >last one, as i'm coming level straight onto the road, no looking, no
> >life saver, straight onto the road. Lucky for him I was going slow, he
> >got a term of abuse via the window.
>
> Golly! What a surprise. Children acting like children.

KSI dosn't give a fig how old someone is.


> >This is only one week after a 15 was also involved in an accident, not
> >200 mtrs away, road closed for hours. The kid is in a bad way (and
> >likely to loose his leg) no update via local paper.
>
> Are you implying this was the the victim's fault?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Are you implying it's not?

Have we had the full details?
Court case?

no, well, especially since i implied nothing of the kind. Other than
you would have though parents would give their kids a reminder to be
carefull on the roads.