Need advice on titanium 105 used bike

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  1. tdcadillac

    tdcadillac New Member

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    Hello all

    I don't know much about used bike.

    this is a used bike with 105 shimano

    is it a good buy?

    " 2018 Eclipse Titanium 58 cm road bike...with carbon fork. Titanium frame is flexproof and bulletproof... Shimano 105 drive components 27 speed with flight deck double shifters.. Shimano caliper brakes with new pads... Ritchey adjustable headset Recent Bontrager tires on 700 x 23 Alloy wheels. No warps... Shimano clip pedals.. Everything is good condition...( minor scratches)...no repairs needed... Accesories available..elbow pads ...odometer... Asking 700 Absolutely not negotiable...( 1300 new)..."
     
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  2. dabac

    dabac Well-Known Member

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    A 27-speed 2018 105?
    27 speed would mean 3x9. Were there really 3x9 105 groupsets made in 2018?
    23mm tires aren’t considered that great anymore. Wider rims and wider tires can give a lower drag and more comfortable ride.
    Have no idea what is meant by ”double shifters”. Or ”adjustable headset”.
    Can still be an OK price for a Ti frame & CF fork - if it fits you.
     
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  3. Froze

    Froze Well-Known Member

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    First let's get the hype out of the way, NO material used to build bicycle frames is flexproof or bulletproof!

    Having said that the Enigma bike is a very highly praised bike, getting 4 1/2 stars consistently across several websites I saw. So really what I want to know is how much is this used bike going for? Bikes do NOT hold their value long, though Ti holds the longest it still takes a huge hit in the first year, and if the seller thinks he can get $2,500 or so out of it then he's out of his mind! Heck you could buy a new TI bike for close to that price like the Lynskey R300, or the Litespeed T5 or the Litespeed Ultimate, and then you would have a warranty on the components and the frame.

    I would be wondering why the guy is selling his TI bike, yeah I know they have all sorts of excuses, but did he find out he damaged the fork and the damage is hidden? did he crack the frame someplace and you haven't found it? Most people don't just sell their Ti bikes after a year or two of riding.
     
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  4. tdcadillac

    tdcadillac New Member

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    that is my reasoning as well. If I have to pay a used for that price why not buying a new one and get the warranty. I want to buy a used bike and I am taking the risk so the price should be reasonable not close to a new one.
    Thanks Froze always much appreciated.
     
  5. Froze

    Froze Well-Known Member

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    If you get a chance you need to ride a TI bike, people say steel is real, but TI is absolutely the most comfortable riding material so far used in bike frames. I have both steel and tI, and there is a day and night difference using the two types of material over the same surfaces; nothing comes close to the feel of TI...so far.

    Some people argue that steel is stronger? Yeah of course that comes from steel builders, but the truth is TI is far stronger than steel.

    https://www.honeybikes.com/steel-or-titanium This comes from a steel builder so they're being quite truthful about it all. I have several steel bikes and none of them compare to the feel I have with the TI bike, and steel feels better than carbon fiber or aluminum bikes.

    Anyway I hope you share whatever bike you buy, I'm dying to know what you get!!

    In the meantime here are some entertaining videos:

    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvk63bmVpck


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0eP-6j8d6s


    View: https://vimeo.com/106021360


    Some websites will promote the EFBe frame tests for their proof, but here's the real dope on that: http://www.tomsarazac.com/tom/opinions/frame-test.html
     
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  6. tdcadillac

    tdcadillac New Member

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    Hello Froze
    Long time hope you are doing great.
    I bought a Specialized Elite
    https://www.specialized.com/ca/en/allez-elite/p/133817?color=239805-133817&searchText=90018-4256
    It is my first road bike so for me it is great as I never rode TI, Steel nor Carbon and don't know the difference. I wanted a disc brake but after many research and specially watching photos of the last tour de France I found that if those athletes are using rim brakes then why should I bother with disc . I started to ride at night to get used to the bike and also did couple of indoor training . I think next spring I will be ready for longer rides :)
    have a lovely evening and many thanks as usual
     
  7. Froze

    Froze Well-Known Member

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    I'm doing great TC thanks for asking.

    Your thing about disk brakes vs rim brakes is what I've been trying to tell people a long time about if rim brakes have been good enough for pro racing for all these years than their more than good enough for us everyday riders. The other odd thing about rim brakes being in events like the TDF where riders screamed down steep mountain passes exceeding 65 mph then had to slow for turns...well there isn't mass graves on the end of those turns!

    In rain disk brakes are a bit better than rim brakes, but most riders don't ride in the rain, and even with rim brakes they still raced on the TDF in the rain; in the rain, the pads play an important part, Kool-Stop Salmon pads work the best, I use nothing but those and they work great when things get wet, they also work great in the dry, they also last a lot longer than standard black pads.

    Disk brakes are really the best form of braking for CF wheels with CF brake track, rim brakes don't work well with those type of wheels.

    Marketing has a huge role in how a person thinks, and what they will accept and believe.
     
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