Need to gain weight... big time.

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  1. Etxy

    Etxy New Member

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    Hiya. I'm in Australia, so measurements will be in metric, I'm afraid.

    I'm a 16 year old male, 1.70 metres tall, and I weigh 49-50 kg at the moment. I get up to maybe 52 kg in summer, because I train much more. I try to go riding for about an hour on weekdays, after school and maybe one longer ride on weekends on road, on top of twice weekly training sessions on the track and racing on Saturdays. I am a middle to low end B-grade junior.

    Cardio stuff- resting h/r= 46-47 bpm
    max h/r= 212 bpm

    I eat fairly well, I believe, with a huge dinner, moderate breakfast, moderate lunch. I drink probably a couple of litres of water throughout the day, and can't see why I'm not gaining weight or muscle mass.

    Ideally, I'd like to be around 54-55 kg year round. Any advice?
     
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  2. Hassaan

    Hassaan New Member

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    Do you control your temper? Tell honestly.
     
  3. 2LAP

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    What has that got to do with anything?
     
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    Endurance cycling is unlikely to help you gain weight given that it increases the amount of energy you use and is unlikely to help you gain muscle.

    To gain weight you need to...
    (1) eat more food and this will result in increased body fat.
    (2) do weight training to increase muscle size (hypertrophy).

    If you think that your weight is a problem you should go and see a doctor for a medical and some advice about what to do next.
     
  5. eric_the_red

    eric_the_red New Member

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    I was about the same build as you at 16-17, and ate everything in sight. I didn't start to gain more muscle until I was in my early 20's. I think from 19 to 23 I went from 50 kg to 70 kg. Now that I've hit 40 I'm gaining again, but that's a whole diferent story. Maybe you'll gain as you get a few years older.
    Or alternately you could just be built small, what are your parents like.
     
  6. gene d

    gene d New Member

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    I believe I'm in the same boat you are. I'm about the same height as you and I eat alot more than my friends do but I still only weigh 101 lbs. I think it has to do with genetics and a very high metabolism. Hmmmmm not much you can do about that. My doctor told me to start drinking whole milk. errrrrr
     
  7. flyinghatchet

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    This is weird, some of you are trying to gain weight, when I wish I had a little less weight to drag up the hills. It's not that I'm fat, I just have a big upper body from climbing and I think that slows me down. Just in case you wanted to know, I am 5 feet 8 inches tall, 155 pounds (sorry, I don't have the metric measurements).

    Is there anybody else here with the same situation (climbers?) that have had trouble dragging extra weight up the hills, or helped use it to your advantage somehow? (Sorry for hijacking the thread, just curious.)

    Graison
     
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    Have you ever tried climbing a steep long hill weighing 90kgs??? See what happens when trying to bulk up to be a trackie... Now its so damn hard to shed weight it aint funny!!!
    If you weigh that much,go hit the hills so you can smash everyone on them!!!
     
  9. Hassaan

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    Great!
     
  10. Lasalles

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    Hey Etxy heres something to think about!!!! Do you think Cadel Evans is worried about being skinny??? There is no point over eating either as it wont be stored as bigger muscles.Maybe start a gym program if you want to add size.
     
  11. mikos

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    You can try :
    1)add 100-200 kkal for breakfast, lunch, dinner
    2)eat every 3 hours
    3)recovery drink(carb/protein rato 4:1) within 30min after training/race
    4)do weight training(take protein supplement to aid hypertrophy)
    4)take 1-2 recovery ride in week
     
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    Short answer is don't worry about your weight; you'll gain muscle mass and weight as you get older. However, from your schedule, my concern would be that you're overtraining, which is not only keeping your weight down, but may also be limiting muscle growth and slowing you down on the track.

    Without knowing more, I'd guess you're riding pretty hard on your after school rides and weekend rides, in addition to your two training sessions and weekly race...that's a lot of work. Suggest you reduce the hour road rides to one or two a week, and make sure you're only riding at a recovery pace on the road....66% of max HR or less; easy gears only, never push.

    Your body will build some muscle and speed if you let it.

    Dan
     
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    Etxy - don't worry about your weight so much. Right now I'm 16 also and I weigh 61kg (135lb) and I am 1.88m (6'2"). Everybody thinks im am really skinny. I really dont worry about it. I know that in some ways being skinny hinders me, but in the end, it is for the best. Right now don't worry about your weight. I would start doing some weight lifting in the off-season to tone and add some muscle but don't go crazy in the gym. Keep a regular diet and as some others said, take some rest days. That is when your body builds muscle, riding tares it apart.
     
  15. Etxy

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    Thankyou very much for all the great advice! I have put some of that into action, and have toned down the training a little. I am doing a couple of recovery rides a week, and over a set route to my track, I have noticed an average speed gain of 3-4 km/h. :) Once again, thanks a lot- I'll let you all know how I go when I race next Saturday.

    Another question I have is whether there's any way to become a competitive climber- I know I have the right body build for climbing, but I still struggle to get up hills. Is there a knack to it, or should I just ride hills more?
     
  16. Hassaan

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    Etxy! You have answered right yourself.
    Two things will make you competitive climber, practice and the second one "practice";)
     
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    Sounds like I'm in for some hill climbing practice, then. Imagine my excitement. ;) I hoped there'd be something easier then that... like, I dunno... tablets. The Hill Pill, yeah. ;)

    /ara
     
  18. dhk

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    That's a major gain in speed. Sounds like you're heading in the right direction. But, don't worry about your speed on the road; just keep the recovery rides easy. And also use your judgement on the track sessions as well. Resist the urge to go to max speed at every Tue/Thurs training session, particularly if you're racing that weekend. Save your best performance for the race...don't leave it on the home track!

    Dan
     
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    Ok, I've just drawn up a training schedule for myself- please give me any advice you might have.

    Monday- 7.5 k to track, 2 hour training session, 7.5 k home.
    Tuesday- 15 km Mountain Bike (for variety) OR 1 hour road ride recovery.
    Wednesday- 7.5 k to track, 1-3 hour training session, 7.5 k home.
    Thursday- 7.5k to track, 2 hour training session, 7.5 k home OR 15 k ride to Crit circuit, 11 k race and get driven home.
    Friday- 1 hour road recovery ride OR rest day
    Saturday- 7.5 k to track, track race program, 7.5 k home.
    Sunday- Recovery ride OR 60 k ride.

    All of the ones offering two options I'm not sure which to do. Maybe I'm approaching this from the wrong angle, so please help me out here. :)

    Thanks again.
     
  20. dhk

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    Wow! Sounds like way too much for a 16 year old to me....more like a program for when you are 26, and have 10 years of successful racing. My first thought would be to cut the track sessions to twice a week, plus one race a week, not two. Then two easy recovery rides to round out the week, not more than one hour in easy gear like 39/19. You want to go hard once a week on race day, and back off a bit the other two sessions.

    Suggest you find a local coach who can evaluate you and help you find the right level of training volume and intensity. If you're doing track workouts, talk to the coach there about your overall training program. Hopefully, he's not a suffer-or-quit the sport type. You've got a lot of years ahead of you to get fast. If you're steady and patient with your training, the speed and strength will come to you.

    Dan
     
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