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Edward Dolan
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[email protected] (Joseph Kochanowski) wrote in message
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> I do not think you would find any exchange with the V*nd*m*n character useful since he seems to be
> so far out on a limb that there is no chance to have a logical discussion with him. He has a lot
> of complaining about everything but no solutions to offer. He has a list of companies to boycott
> that include mountain bike retailers and electric vehicles but no answers on how to conserve the
> environment. This is what I find suspicious about his motives. He is not interested in getting
> anyone to ride their bikes instead of driving their cars.
I believe that most conservatives know what the human condition amounts to and despair of ever being
able to change it much. Our cycling culture is very small to insignificant in the larger scheme of
things. It essentially amounts to a sport and a recreation, and that is all it can ever be. Like
you, I only use a car for trips out of town; otherwise I am a total bike freak. But I recognize that
this is only for the very few. The mass of men will never have any interest in cycling for any
purpose whatsoever.
The best way to conserve the environment is just to preserve it as set asides for national parks and
wildernesses. There is so very little of it left that it should be easy to do.
> I am interested in solutions to bike problems that I can do something about. A lot of
> conservatives are good at complaining about liberals but few actually show what is good about
> being a conservative or capitalist. I enjoy finding my own solutions to problems like getting
> better lights for night riding, better weather protection and faster speed that I can easily
> implement and show to anyone else. I will not learn better fabrication techniques from someone
> like M*k* V*nd*m*n.
Joseph, in your own modest way you are contributing something valuable but it will not ever to taken
up by the culture at large. We conservatives KNOW that.
We conservatives mainly complain about liberals because their solutions to societal problems never
seem to work. More often than not their solutions actually make matters worse. What happened with
respect to public housing illustrates this perfectly. I saw them going up 50 years ago and I saw
them being blown up recently. It seems we should have learned something from that fiasco but the
liberals press on with just one crazy program after another.
> He would be happy with humans only living in a prison Gulag with strict control by elitists like
> him. My big complaint is that a lot of bike riders I know would like to live in that Gulag.
I do think when you get to the extremes of the political spectrum, whether right or left, that you
want strictly to control people in furtherance of one's utopian ideology of the way things ought to
be. We all ought to abhor utopian ideologies of all stripes since the past century was replete with
just one horrible example after another. At the present time, it is the Islamic extremists who have
a utopian ideology of the way they think the world should be and they are more than willing to kill
(murder) anyone who stands in their way.
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
news:<[email protected]>... [...]
> I do not think you would find any exchange with the V*nd*m*n character useful since he seems to be
> so far out on a limb that there is no chance to have a logical discussion with him. He has a lot
> of complaining about everything but no solutions to offer. He has a list of companies to boycott
> that include mountain bike retailers and electric vehicles but no answers on how to conserve the
> environment. This is what I find suspicious about his motives. He is not interested in getting
> anyone to ride their bikes instead of driving their cars.
I believe that most conservatives know what the human condition amounts to and despair of ever being
able to change it much. Our cycling culture is very small to insignificant in the larger scheme of
things. It essentially amounts to a sport and a recreation, and that is all it can ever be. Like
you, I only use a car for trips out of town; otherwise I am a total bike freak. But I recognize that
this is only for the very few. The mass of men will never have any interest in cycling for any
purpose whatsoever.
The best way to conserve the environment is just to preserve it as set asides for national parks and
wildernesses. There is so very little of it left that it should be easy to do.
> I am interested in solutions to bike problems that I can do something about. A lot of
> conservatives are good at complaining about liberals but few actually show what is good about
> being a conservative or capitalist. I enjoy finding my own solutions to problems like getting
> better lights for night riding, better weather protection and faster speed that I can easily
> implement and show to anyone else. I will not learn better fabrication techniques from someone
> like M*k* V*nd*m*n.
Joseph, in your own modest way you are contributing something valuable but it will not ever to taken
up by the culture at large. We conservatives KNOW that.
We conservatives mainly complain about liberals because their solutions to societal problems never
seem to work. More often than not their solutions actually make matters worse. What happened with
respect to public housing illustrates this perfectly. I saw them going up 50 years ago and I saw
them being blown up recently. It seems we should have learned something from that fiasco but the
liberals press on with just one crazy program after another.
> He would be happy with humans only living in a prison Gulag with strict control by elitists like
> him. My big complaint is that a lot of bike riders I know would like to live in that Gulag.
I do think when you get to the extremes of the political spectrum, whether right or left, that you
want strictly to control people in furtherance of one's utopian ideology of the way things ought to
be. We all ought to abhor utopian ideologies of all stripes since the past century was replete with
just one horrible example after another. At the present time, it is the Islamic extremists who have
a utopian ideology of the way they think the world should be and they are more than willing to kill
(murder) anyone who stands in their way.
Ed Dolan - Minnesota
