New Pump Needed

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  1. Gadget

    Gadget Guest

    Just acquired a new bike and have come across a small problem. The old bike pump from the previous
    bike has a Schrader Valve and the new bike has Presta Valves. I went into my local bike shop for a
    new pump or maybe an adapter and was a little taken a back by the number of bike pumps their is now.
    The current pump is a hand over from my parents and my dad said he bought it in the 70's. Thanks to
    a good sense of maintence and care I have never yet had to buy a new pump but now I do. So a couple
    of simple questions. Firstly, any suggestions for a decent presta pump? Secondly, are those little
    bottles of compressed co2 any good? Thirdly, must be able to maintain as I would like to pass down
    to my kids if I ever have any.

    Thanks

    Gadget
     
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  2. Gadget wrote:
    > Just acquired a new bike and have come across a small problem. The old bike pump from the previous
    > bike has a Schrader Valve and the new bike has Presta Valves. I went into my local bike shop for a
    > new pump or maybe an adapter and was a little taken a back by the number of bike pumps their is
    > now. The current pump is a hand over from my parents and my dad said he bought it in the 70's.
    > Thanks to a good sense of maintence and care I have never yet had to buy a new pump but now I do.
    > So a couple of simple questions. Firstly, any suggestions for a decent presta pump? Secondly, are
    > those little bottles of compressed co2 any good? Thirdly, must be able to maintain as I would like
    > to pass down to my kids if I ever have any.

    co2 is great as long as you ride with someone with a real pump. I can't praise the Zefal HPX highly
    enough, for me there is no contest if you can use a frame fit pump.

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I1FE621A3

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  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    "Chris Gerhard" <[email protected]_btclick.com> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Gadget wrote:
    > > Just acquired a new bike and have come across a small problem. The old
    bike
    > > pump from the previous bike has a Schrader Valve and the new bike has
    Presta
    > > Valves. I went into my local bike shop for a new pump or maybe an
    adapter
    > > and was a little taken a back by the number of bike pumps their is now.
    The
    > > current pump is a hand over from my parents and my dad said he bought it
    in
    > > the 70's. Thanks to a good sense of maintence and care I have never yet
    had
    > > to buy a new pump but now I do. So a couple of simple questions.
    Firstly,
    > > any suggestions for a decent presta pump? Secondly, are those little
    bottles
    > > of compressed co2 any good? Thirdly, must be able to maintain as I would like to pass down to my
    > > kids if I ever have any.
    >
    > co2 is great as long as you ride with someone with a real pump. I can't praise the Zefal HPX
    > highly enough, for me there is no contest if you can use a frame fit pump.
    >
    > http://makeashorterlink.com/?I1FE621A3

    Settle do them a quid cheaper ('truflo HPX' is identical).

    cheers, clive
     
  4. Peter Clinch

    Peter Clinch Guest

    Gadget wrote:
    > Just acquired a new bike and have come across a small problem. The old bike pump from the
    > previous bike has a Schrader Valve and the new bike has Presta Valves. I went into my local bike
    > shop for a new pump or maybe an adapter and was a little taken a back by the number of bike pumps
    > their is now.

    Will you be carrying it with you? If no, seriously consider a track pump: much quicker and easier to
    inflate with one of those (think ACME dynamite plungers) than a hand pump.

    If you are carrying it with you, what sort of bike? Offroad, a long frame mounted pump that tucks
    into one half of the diamond will probably spend its time falling out, so a mini-pump may be better.
    If it's for road use the HPX suggested already is the canonical Good Pump AFAICT.

    An alternative would be to swap your tubes if you get on well with Schraders (I prefer Prestas and
    have swapped the other way).

    Pete.
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  5. Tony Yates

    Tony Yates Guest

    "Gadget" wrote in message:

    > Just acquired a new bike and have come across a small problem. The old
    bike
    > pump from the previous bike has a Schrader Valve and the new bike has
    Presta
    > Valves. I went into my local bike shop for a new pump or maybe an adapter and was a little taken a
    > back by the number of bike pumps their is now.
    The
    > current pump is a hand over from my parents and my dad said he bought it
    in
    > the 70's. Thanks to a good sense of maintence and care I have never yet
    had
    > to buy a new pump but now I do. So a couple of simple questions. Firstly, any suggestions for a
    > decent presta pump? Secondly, are those little
    bottles
    > of compressed co2 any good? Thirdly, must be able to maintain as I would like to pass down to my
    > kids if I ever have any.
    >

    Blackburn pumps come with a lifetime guarantee, might make passing down achievable.

    Regards, Tony

    --
    www.therush.uk.com
     
  6. The Zefal pumps are great BUT they won't fit in a pannier.

    The best I've come across is the Blackburn Mammoth Dual. It's a big volume, and with a press of a
    button, a high pressure pump, it works, it'll fit in a pannier and will do both types of valves. It
    won't make tea, but nobody's perfect
     
  7. Pete Biggs

    Pete Biggs Guest

    Peter Clinch wrote:
    >
    > Will you be carrying it with you? If no

    or yes

    >, seriously consider a track pump:

    as well!

    > much quicker and easier to inflate with one of those (think ACME dynamite plungers) than a
    > hand pump.

    > If you are carrying it with you, what sort of bike? Offroad, a long frame mounted pump that tucks
    > into one half of the diamond will probably spend its time falling out

    I don't know if any offroaders bother doing this, but with most MTB's, an HPX could be fitted
    under the top tube using a peg or cable tie around head tube, with a velcro strap (or two) to
    hold it tight.

    ~PB
     
  8. Pete Biggs

    Pete Biggs Guest

    > The Zefal pumps are great BUT they won't fit in a pannier.

    Depends how big panniers are and how small pump is. HPX comes in four sizes. Anyway, pump can go on
    bike when riding and can half stick out of bag when not - so that's no excuse! :)

    ~PB
     
  9. Just Zis Guy

    Just Zis Guy Guest

    On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:14:40 -0000, "Gearóid Ó Laoi, Garry Lee" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >The Zefal pumps are great BUT they won't fit in a pannier.

    Yes they do - they just stick out a bit :p

    Anyway, the HPX fits on the bike, not in the pannier. Best pump I've ever had, by a country mile. I
    have a little Road Morph on the 'bent, there being no obvious place for an HPX, and that's not too
    bad, but the Zéfal is definitely the kink of on-bike pumps.

    Much appreciated by the CO2 brigade on club rides, I find...

    Guy
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  10. I've had Zefals and the Blackburn is as good.
     
  11. Paul Rudin

    Paul Rudin Guest

    "Gadget" <[email protected]> writes:

    [about pumps]

    Zefal HP-X. There is no substitute :)
     
  12. Paul Rudin

    Paul Rudin Guest

    "Gearóid Ó Laoi, Garry Lee" <[email protected]> writes:

    > The Zefal pumps are great BUT they won't fit in a pannier.

    They come in several sizes. I always have a small one in my pannier. For my daily commute it's much
    easier to have everything in the pannier, no faffing with installing things on the farme and
    removing them at the destination.
     
  13. Peter B

    Peter B Guest

    "Pete Biggs" <pLime{remove_fruit}@biggs.tc> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > I don't know if any offroaders bother doing this, but with most MTB's, an HPX could be fitted
    > under the top tube using a peg or cable tie around head tube, with a velcro strap (or two) to hold
    > it tight.

    Problem is many pukka off-road bikes no longer have diamond frames, (see below). With those that do
    (and I have one) it's nice to be able to shoulder the bike when needed using the top tube. On my
    diamond framed mtb I fit a short frame fit pump behind the seat tube by locating it between the LH
    chain stay and the rear brake cable hanger, if vees are fitted use a plastic Jubilee type peg,
    trouble is it's in the line of fire from back wheel cack.

    Overall an effecient mini-pump works out best, it can be fitted into a Camelbak, downside is you
    could forget it, or in my case on my non-diamond mtb using the bottle mounts where the Crud catcher
    protects it from the worst of the front wheel cack. I use a Topeak Mini (?) Blaster, cheap enough
    not to cry over if it gets lost or broken and effecient enough to get a fat tyre up to 50 psi before
    the danger of an exertion triggered heart attack becomes a reality.

    I rarely (touch wood) puncture on my road bike so as any pump is regarded as a last resort I use a
    Specialized Air Force 2, £9.99, which'll get up to 80 psi reasonably easily (certified using a
    gauge). The real work is done at home and there is no substitute for a track pump.

    So, my philosophy is to invest in a track pump and only pay the minimum for a bike fitting pump.

    Pete
     
  14. Tim Hall

    Tim Hall Guest

    On 01 Mar 2003 08:39:52 +0000, Paul Rudin <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"Gadget" <[email protected]> writes:
    >
    >[about pumps]
    >
    >Zefal HP-X. There is no substitute :)

    I left my HP-X by the roadside once, after fixing someone else's puncture on a tandem club run. I
    didn't realise I was without it until I was nearly home.

    I went back for it.

    Tim
    --

    fast and gripping, non pompous, glossy and credible.
     
  15. Just Zis Guy

    Just Zis Guy Guest

    On Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:14:48 +0000, Tim Hall <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I left my HP-X by the roadside once, after fixing someone else's puncture on a tandem club run. I
    >didn't realise I was without it until I was nearly home.

    >I went back for it.

    Surely you had it trained to return home unaided? There is nothing which is beyond the powers of
    an HPX :p

    Guy
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  16. Chris French

    Chris French Guest

    In message <[email protected]>, "Gearóid Ó Laoi, Garry Lee"
    <[email protected]> writes
    >I've had Zefals

    HPX?

    >and the Blackburn is as good.
    >
    Nothing, (that fits on a bike) is a good as an HPX
    --
    Chris French, Leeds
     
  17. Dark Fiber

    Dark Fiber Guest

    On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:52:08 -0000, "Gadget" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Just acquired a new bike and have come across a small problem. The old bike pump from the previous
    >bike has a Schrader Valve and the new bike has Presta Valves. I went into my local bike shop for a
    >new pump or maybe an adapter and was a little taken a back by the number of bike pumps their is
    >now. The current pump is a hand over from my parents and my dad said he bought it in the 70's.
    >Thanks to a good sense of maintence and care I have never yet had to buy a new pump but now I do.
    >So a couple of simple questions. Firstly, any suggestions for a decent presta pump? Secondly, are
    >those little bottles of compressed co2 any good? Thirdly, must be able to maintain as I would like
    >to pass down to my kids if I ever have any.

    i have a specialized air-force 4. takes shraeder and presta, its tiny!, costs about 10£ fantastic
    little pump.

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  18. Tony Raven

    Tony Raven Guest

    Just zis Guy, you know? <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> I went back for it.
    >
    > Surely you had it trained to return home unaided? There is nothing which is beyond the powers of
    > an HPX :p
    >

    Yes but they get into a sulk if you don't make an effort

    Tony

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  19. [email protected] schreef ...
    > In message <[email protected]>, "Gearóid Ó Laoi, Garry Lee"
    > <[email protected]> writes
    > >I've had Zefals
    >
    > HPX?
    >
    > >and the Blackburn is as good.
    > >
    > Nothing, (that fits on a bike) is a good as an HPX

    I beg to disagree. I have a Blackburn Frame Pump
    (http://www.blackburndesign.com/WEBREADY/03framepump.html). Recently I had to let the Blackburn
    stand in for an unwilling HPX. The HPX wasn't used very much so it can't have been wear, but the
    Blackburn left in "standing in the dust" so to speak.

    As for transporting a pump: many smaller pumps (I mean smaller than HPXs and the likes) come with
    holders that fit under a water bottle cage. Works great on practically any bike.

    --
    Regards, Marten
     
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