Newsgroup Reader filter Spam?



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cmcanulty

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Does anyone have a newsgroup reader that gets rid of the spam entries?
This group is getting to be 90+% spam! I use google currently,
 
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Paul M. Hobson

Guest
I use Thunderbird and try to create sufficiently generic filters. Some
days I just end up hitting 'k' on the keyboard a bunch until everything
goes away.

cmcanulty wrote:
> Does anyone have a newsgroup reader that gets rid of the spam entries?
> This group is getting to be 90+% spam! I use google currently,



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Paul M. Hobson
..:change the f to ph to reply:.
 
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SMS

Guest
cmcanulty wrote:
> Does anyone have a newsgroup reader that gets rid of the spam entries?
> This group is getting to be 90+% spam! I use google currently,


It's difficult to do with Google Groups. See
"http://www.holysmoke.org/ggf/index.htm".

Thunderbird and Outlook both have okay filters. Outlook is a bit better
because it's easier to apply the filter to every newsgroup (you can do
this in Thunderbird but it's a bit more awkward).
 
On Apr 4, 8:47 am, cmcanulty <[email protected]> wrote:
> Does anyone have a newsgroup reader that gets rid of the spam entries?
> This group is getting to be 90+% spam! I use google currently,


This is frustrating - and doubly so, because Google's Gmail seems very
adept at keeping out spam.

Seems to me that Google's right hand needs to find out what its left
hand is doing.

- Frank Krygowski
 
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landotter

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On Apr 4, 7:47 am, cmcanulty <[email protected]> wrote:
> Does anyone have a newsgroup reader that gets rid of the spam entries?
> This group is getting to be 90+% spam! I use google currently,


For google groups using the Firefox web browser:

Install greasemonkey extension.

Restart browser.

Install Penney's ggkiller.

Tada! You can killfile!

Drawbacks:
No wildcards.
No manually editable killfile other than under "about:config"
 
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Jym Dyer

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> This group is getting to be 90+% spam! I use google currently,

=x= Insane, isn't it? What with Google's ready access
to supposedly superior search/spamfilter technology.
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landotter

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On Apr 4, 10:44 pm, Jym Dyer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > This group is getting to be 90+% spam! I use google currently,

>
> =x= Insane, isn't it?  What with Google's ready access
> to supposedly superior search/spamfilter technology.
>     <_Jym_>
>

I have a feeling that their "spamfilter technology" relies much on
simple flagging. To flag a post as spam with Google Groups you have to
open it, go into a dialog and tag it as spam. Much too inconvenient
compared to Gmail. I'll givem a break--it's probably not the most
profitable part of their enterprise.
 
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Jay

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"landotter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Apr 4, 10:44 pm, Jym Dyer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > This group is getting to be 90+% spam! I use google currently,

>
> =x= Insane, isn't it? What with Google's ready access
> to supposedly superior search/spamfilter technology.
> <_Jym_>
>

I have a feeling that their "spamfilter technology" relies much on
simple flagging. To flag a post as spam with Google Groups you have to
open it, go into a dialog and tag it as spam. Much too inconvenient
compared to Gmail. I'll givem a break--it's probably not the most
profitable part of their enterprise.
>
>

I agree. Filtering Usenet spam must not be a high priority for Google. If it
were simple and cheap, they would have already done it. Anyone who wants to
filter has several good newsreader tools available. I chose to just use OE
and ignore the spam.

J.
 
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Andrew Price

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On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 06:35:03 -0500, "Jay" <[email protected]> wrote:

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>I agree. Filtering Usenet spam must not be a high priority for Google. If it
>were simple and cheap, they would have already done it. Anyone who wants to
>filter has several good newsreader tools available. I chose to just use OE
>and ignore the spam.


I finally lost my patience and kill-file posts from Google.
 
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catzz66

Guest
Andrew Price wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 06:35:03 -0500, "Jay" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> [---]
>
>> I agree. Filtering Usenet spam must not be a high priority for Google. If it
>> were simple and cheap, they would have already done it. Anyone who wants to
>> filter has several good newsreader tools available. I chose to just use OE
>> and ignore the spam.

>
> I finally lost my patience and kill-file posts from Google.


Google does seem to lately be the most abused of the freebies. I give
it a time-out from time to time, but some good people post from it, too.
 
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Andrew Price

Guest
On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:05:08 -0500, catzz66 <[email protected]> wrote:

>> I finally lost my patience and kill-file posts from Google.

>
>Google does seem to lately be the most abused of the freebies. I give
>it a time-out from time to time, but some good people post from it, too.


I have a "white list" for them. All the rest ===> trash.
 
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Tom Sherman

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Paul M. Hobson wrote:
> I use Thunderbird and try to create sufficiently generic filters. Some
> days I just end up hitting 'k' on the keyboard a bunch until everything
> goes away.
>

Too much Thunderbird causes top posting:
<http://www.bumwine.com/tbird.html>.

> cmcanulty wrote:
>> Does anyone have a newsgroup reader that gets rid of the spam entries?
>> This group is getting to be 90+% spam! I use google currently,

>


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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
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Tom Sherman

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cmcanulty wrote:
> Does anyone have a newsgroup reader that gets rid of the spam entries?
> This group is getting to be 90+% spam! I use google currently,


My newsfeed must be deleting about 95% of the spam, then, as I only see
occasional posts.

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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
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Jay

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"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Paul M. Hobson wrote:
>> I use Thunderbird and try to create sufficiently generic filters. Some
>> days I just end up hitting 'k' on the keyboard a bunch until everything
>> goes away.
>>

> Too much Thunderbird causes top posting:
> <http://www.bumwine.com/tbird.html>.
>
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
>
>

Now Tom...

Paul just does not know our ways.

J.
 
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Jay

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"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> cmcanulty wrote:
>> Does anyone have a newsgroup reader that gets rid of the spam entries?
>> This group is getting to be 90+% spam! I use google currently,

>
> My newsfeed must be deleting about 95% of the spam, then, as I only see
> occasional posts.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
>
>

Probably.

Lately, the spam has been quite obnoxious. I don't filter, so I see all of
it. But of course, I don't read it, or let it bother me.

J.
 
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John Thompson

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On 2008-04-04, Paul M. Hobson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I use Thunderbird and try to create sufficiently generic filters. Some
> days I just end up hitting 'k' on the keyboard a bunch until everything
> goes away.
>
> cmcanulty wrote:
>> Does anyone have a newsgroup reader that gets rid of the spam entries?
>> This group is getting to be 90+% spam! I use google currently,


Alas, a substantial majority of the spam on usenet seems to come from
Google Groups. Simply adding a check for the header line "Organization:
http://groups.google.com" to my kill file dramatically reduces the
amount of spam I see. Unfortunately, people like the OP of this
thread are also blocked, which is why I am not responding directly to
his post. I didn't see it until someone posted a reply outside of
Google Groups.

It's a shame, but Google steadfastly ignores spam complaints on Google
Groups. I find it curious because their gmail service is actually quite
effective at culling spam.

So, to the original poster I suggest finding a real news server instead
of the Google Groups web interface, and then killfiling anything
originating from Google Groups.

It works.

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John ([email protected])
 
On Apr 6, 6:14 pm, John Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2008-04-04, Paul M. Hobson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I use Thunderbird and try to create sufficiently generic filters. Some
> > days I just end up hitting 'k' on the keyboard a bunch until everything
> > goes away.

>
> > cmcanulty wrote:
> >> Does anyone have a newsgroup reader that gets rid of the spam entries?
> >> This group is getting to be 90+% spam! I use google currently,

>
> Alas, a substantial majority of the spam on usenet seems to come from
> Google Groups. Simply adding a check for the header line "Organization:http://groups.google.com" to my kill file dramatically reduces the
> amount of spam I see. Unfortunately, people like the OP of this
> thread are also blocked, which is why I am not responding directly to
> his post. I didn't see it until someone posted a reply outside of
> Google Groups.
>
> It's a shame, but Google steadfastly ignores spam complaints on Google
> Groups. I find it curious because their gmail service is actually quite
> effective at culling spam.
>
> So, to the original poster I suggest finding a real news server instead
> of the Google Groups web interface, and then killfiling anything
> originating from Google Groups.
>
> It works.
>
> --
>
> John ([email protected])
>
>

That strategy will killfile many valid posts, along with much of the
spam.

J.
 
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Jym Dyer

Guest
> Filtering Usenet spam must not be a high priority for Google.
> If it were simple and cheap, they would have already done it.


=v= Actually, it *is* simple and cheap. There is free software
for it that works rather well; smaller providers do it well.
Google has its own spam-fighting system that's used for GMail,
and could extend it to Usenet messages (which are in the same
format). But even if that was somehow too onerous, they could
just put the free software in use.

=v= It is baffling that they don't.
<_Jym_>