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Qui si parla Campagnolo
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Read above, Jobst said it better than me...
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> Qui si parla Campagnolo aka Peter Chisholm wrote:
> > DougC wrote:
> > > ...
> > > If you'd switch to recumbent bikes, you'd find that "most seats are more
> > > than comfortable enough", even without padded shorts. Also the
> > > crank-forward bikes (the "sport series") from RANS are nice too. I've
> > > got a Fusion, it's quite lovely.
> > >
> > > Just like with cars, motorcycles, boats, airplanes.... why is it that
> > > upright bicycles are the only vehicles that have this "ass pain
> > > problem"? ...It's because upright bicycle ergonomics are simply poor,
> > > and no saddle can fix that.
> >
> > here we go again..why don't you go find another -bent specific NG to
> > wallow in?
>
> Is this rec.bicycles.that.peter.chisholm.approves.of.tech?
>
> At what popularity level does something have to be for it to be proper
> to be discussed on rec.bicycles.tech? Are high wheel ("penny-farthing")
> bicycles an acceptable subject, since they appear to be rarer than
> recumbents? What about folding uprights? Downhill MTB? Bike for rider's
> with a mass greater than 150 kg?
>
> Does the "promotional" aspect bother you? Should we ban discussing the
> advantages of "well built conventional wheels" over "boutique" wheels?
> Or the "superiority" of components made by an Italian manufacturer over
> than of a Japanese manufacturer?
>
> > OBTW-my buttt doesn't hurt at all, never has, never had sleepy winkie,
> > a saddle sore or anything else like that.
>
> Do you represent 100% of the healthy human population? Are those not up
> to your superior standard not worthy of riding in comfort?
>
> > Have you ever had irritation
> > from your skin pushing thur on the straps of the lawn chair you have on
> > your 'bent??
>
> What are you talking about?
>
> > > The safety bicycle is no more the zenith of bicycle design than the Ford
> > > Model-T is the zenith of car design. The upright bicycle frame is simply
> > > the cheapest solution come up with, requiring the least amount of
> > > materials to usefully connect two wheels.
> >
> > Let me knwo when 'bents are mainstream. The design has been around for
> > decades but they still occupy the 'lunatic fronge' of bicycles.
>
> What is a 'lunatic fronge' (sic)?
>
> Nice to see your acceptance of non-conformity in others (not).
>
> > > Here is a fun question--it seems that so many people have problems with
> > > saddle pain on uprights. But many of these people will not ride a
> > > recumbent because "it is heavier, it doesn't climb as well".... So
> > > then,,,, why not just get rid of the saddle and seat post on upright
> > > bikes? You'd eliminate a major source of pain, and have a
> > > lighter/better-climbing bike overall.
> >
> > I have a idea also, go to Tiawan, make these cheaper, and try to sell
> > them to bike shops thruout the US, Europe and Asia, let me know how it
> > goes.
>
> With most bike shop employees and owners having close-minded attitudes
> like Mr. Chisholm's, the recumbents would not sell even if they were
> superior in every objective and subjective way.
>
> Did a recumbent rider **** in your beer, or do recumbent offend you for
> some other reason?
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Here, not there.
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> Qui si parla Campagnolo aka Peter Chisholm wrote:
> > DougC wrote:
> > > ...
> > > If you'd switch to recumbent bikes, you'd find that "most seats are more
> > > than comfortable enough", even without padded shorts. Also the
> > > crank-forward bikes (the "sport series") from RANS are nice too. I've
> > > got a Fusion, it's quite lovely.
> > >
> > > Just like with cars, motorcycles, boats, airplanes.... why is it that
> > > upright bicycles are the only vehicles that have this "ass pain
> > > problem"? ...It's because upright bicycle ergonomics are simply poor,
> > > and no saddle can fix that.
> >
> > here we go again..why don't you go find another -bent specific NG to
> > wallow in?
>
> Is this rec.bicycles.that.peter.chisholm.approves.of.tech?
>
> At what popularity level does something have to be for it to be proper
> to be discussed on rec.bicycles.tech? Are high wheel ("penny-farthing")
> bicycles an acceptable subject, since they appear to be rarer than
> recumbents? What about folding uprights? Downhill MTB? Bike for rider's
> with a mass greater than 150 kg?
>
> Does the "promotional" aspect bother you? Should we ban discussing the
> advantages of "well built conventional wheels" over "boutique" wheels?
> Or the "superiority" of components made by an Italian manufacturer over
> than of a Japanese manufacturer?
>
> > OBTW-my buttt doesn't hurt at all, never has, never had sleepy winkie,
> > a saddle sore or anything else like that.
>
> Do you represent 100% of the healthy human population? Are those not up
> to your superior standard not worthy of riding in comfort?
>
> > Have you ever had irritation
> > from your skin pushing thur on the straps of the lawn chair you have on
> > your 'bent??
>
> What are you talking about?
>
> > > The safety bicycle is no more the zenith of bicycle design than the Ford
> > > Model-T is the zenith of car design. The upright bicycle frame is simply
> > > the cheapest solution come up with, requiring the least amount of
> > > materials to usefully connect two wheels.
> >
> > Let me knwo when 'bents are mainstream. The design has been around for
> > decades but they still occupy the 'lunatic fronge' of bicycles.
>
> What is a 'lunatic fronge' (sic)?
>
> Nice to see your acceptance of non-conformity in others (not).
>
> > > Here is a fun question--it seems that so many people have problems with
> > > saddle pain on uprights. But many of these people will not ride a
> > > recumbent because "it is heavier, it doesn't climb as well".... So
> > > then,,,, why not just get rid of the saddle and seat post on upright
> > > bikes? You'd eliminate a major source of pain, and have a
> > > lighter/better-climbing bike overall.
> >
> > I have a idea also, go to Tiawan, make these cheaper, and try to sell
> > them to bike shops thruout the US, Europe and Asia, let me know how it
> > goes.
>
> With most bike shop employees and owners having close-minded attitudes
> like Mr. Chisholm's, the recumbents would not sell even if they were
> superior in every objective and subjective way.
>
> Did a recumbent rider **** in your beer, or do recumbent offend you for
> some other reason?
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Here, not there.