poulidor said:Is it already the end of Lance and Bruyneel's team?
That seems similar with the end of Discovery by good doping story.
That could be better for the fabulous Greg Lemond!
steve said:Can you please post a little more info.
slovakguy said:given the way aso have worked in the past, won't this be damning for both radio shack and astana?
and, as has been stated above, all this is contingent on afld getting some dna from uci for comparison. no mean feat that, given the level of animosity between the two.
i can see this blowing up as another public relations mess with afld blaming the uci for stopping the investigation dead in its tracks before they can even get it started.
Prohibited method is doping or having doping equipment are illegal...that is the first conclusion of the preliminary investigation which was yesterday published.gtm said:I can't see this stopping Radioshack riding the T de F. Money talks & Armstrong in the 2010 means big money. The french are putting a shot across Lance's bow but I can't see it going anywhere.
Its worth noting they've as yet found no trace of any dope.
miketrackman said:As I understand this equipment was not found in possession of any team personnel but in a medical trash bin that the tour gives to all teams. There is a high probability of contamination especially if this bin were dumped or mixed in with other medical waste. Im not sure of the law in france but In america I think it would be very hard to prove that any specific person used any specific method of doping. Chain of custody will be analyzed. Even if Contador and Lance have DNA in that Bin good luck linking anything to them. There could be bandages and such mixed in with the doping equipment.
I would have thought any team involved in doping would be paranoid about accounting for, removing and promptly destroying, all needles, syringes and other equipment so that it could not be found and linked to their team.poulidor said:We can suppose that many responsible doctors a,d so would not drop needles without a container to protect other people. With SIDA and other illness that would be considered as a major fault for such professions.
Since many years teams have been constantly warned about that.
It's a good point, but the material was found just 4 days before the TDF end, we can assume that someone who was not happy with the behaviour of Lance, Bruyneel with Contador and did a sabotage.matagi said:I would have thought any team involved in doping would be paranoid about accounting for, removing and promptly destroying, all needles, syringes and other equipment so that it could not be found and linked to their team.
Sure when someone is in jail he loose his job !Andrija said:Or the guilt could end on Astana team doctors
Who are still at Astana? Where ever they are, they'll loose their job.
They'll loose their job for sure. But they don't need necessary to end in jailpoulidor said:Sure when someone is in jail he loose his job !
Hopefully.poulidor said:I believe that Bruyneel brought his own doctors to clean Astana house... hopefully they are gone at Lance's team back.
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