"Nobel laureate (in Economics) calls for steeper tax cuts in US"

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  1. Steve

    Steve Guest

    Choke on this Liberal Socialists............



    http://washington.news.designerz.com/nobel-laureate-calls-for-steeper-tax-cu
    ts-in-us.html

    "Nobel laureate (in Economics) calls for steeper tax cuts in US"


    AFP/Royal Swedish Academy of Science-HO/File

    Edward Prescott, who picked up the Nobel Prize for Economics, said President
    George W. Bush's tax rate cuts were "pretty small" and should have been
    bigger
     
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  2. Steve wrote:

    > Choke on this Liberal Socialists............
    >
    >
    >
    > http://washington.news.designerz.com/nobel-laureate-calls-for-steeper-tax-cu
    > ts-in-us.html
    >
    > "Nobel laureate (in Economics) calls for steeper tax cuts in US"
    >
    >
    > AFP/Royal Swedish Academy of Science-HO/File
    >
    > Edward Prescott, who picked up the Nobel Prize for Economics, said President
    > George W. Bush's tax rate cuts were "pretty small" and should have been
    > bigger
    >



    OTOH:

    http://econ-www.mit.edu/faculty/dornbusch/download.php?ids=16

    and, I wouldn't expect you to listen to Paul Krugman, but anyway...

    http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/09/26_krugman.shtml

    Steve

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    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
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  3. h squared

    h squared Guest

  4. Kyle Legate

    Kyle Legate Guest

    Steve wrote:
    > Choke on this Liberal Socialists............
    >

    Steve, you douche, why do you post political garbage to a bike racing group?
    Each of the candidates is just a slightly different perspective of the same
    fucking car wreck.

    You should be asking yourself if the same party with two different names is
    really a democracy, and if the international observers will speak up when
    voting irregularities arise.
     
  5. donhix1

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    I think you have the wrong forum
     
  6. Howard Kveck

    Howard Kveck Guest

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Steve wrote:
    >
    > > Choke on this Liberal Socialists............
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > http://washington.news.designerz.com/nobel-laureate-calls-for-steeper-tax-cu
    > > ts-in-us.html
    > >
    > > "Nobel laureate (in Economics) calls for steeper tax cuts in US"
    > >
    > >
    > > AFP/Royal Swedish Academy of Science-HO/File
    > >
    > > Edward Prescott, who picked up the Nobel Prize for Economics, said President
    > > George W. Bush's tax rate cuts were "pretty small" and should have been
    > > bigger
    > >

    >
    >
    > OTOH:
    >
    > http://econ-www.mit.edu/faculty/dornbusch/download.php?ids=16
    >
    > and, I wouldn't expect you to listen to Paul Krugman, but anyway...
    >
    > http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/09/26_krugman.shtml
    >
    > Steve


    Or:
    http://openlettertothepresident.org/

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    "It looks like the squirrel's been showing everybody
    where he keeps his nuts."

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
     
  7. Steve

    Steve Guest

    On 10/23/04 11:04 AM, in article [email protected], "Kyle
    Legate" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Steve wrote:
    >> Choke on this Liberal Socialists............
    >>

    > Steve, you douche, why do you post political garbage to a bike racing group?
    > Each of the candidates is just a slightly different perspective of the same
    > fucking car wreck.
    >
    > You should be asking yourself if the same party with two different names is
    > really a democracy, and if the international observers will speak up when
    > voting irregularities arise.
    >
    >


    Kyle, you fucking prick, some people are more interested in this than the
    crappy cycling shit spewed in here lately....
     
  8. B. Lafferty

    B. Lafferty Guest

    Thanks for the link, Howard.


    "Howard Kveck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Steve wrote:
    >>
    >> > Choke on this Liberal Socialists............
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > http://washington.news.designerz.com/nobel-laureate-calls-for-steeper-tax-cu
    >> > ts-in-us.html
    >> >
    >> > "Nobel laureate (in Economics) calls for steeper tax cuts in US"
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > AFP/Royal Swedish Academy of Science-HO/File
    >> >
    >> > Edward Prescott, who picked up the Nobel Prize for Economics, said
    >> > President
    >> > George W. Bush's tax rate cuts were "pretty small" and should have been
    >> > bigger
    >> >

    >>
    >>
    >> OTOH:
    >>
    >> http://econ-www.mit.edu/faculty/dornbusch/download.php?ids=16
    >>
    >> and, I wouldn't expect you to listen to Paul Krugman, but anyway...
    >>
    >> http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/09/26_krugman.shtml
    >>
    >> Steve

    >
    > Or:
    > http://openlettertothepresident.org/
    >
    > --
    > tanx,
    > Howard
    >
    > "It looks like the squirrel's been showing everybody
    > where he keeps his nuts."
    >
    > remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
     
  9. k.j.papai

    k.j.papai Guest

    "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:BD9FCE47.C2328%[email protected]
    > Choke on this Liberal Socialists............
    >
    >

    Whether I agree with this or not, this is NOT the place to post this Stevie
    poo.

    -Ken

    > AFP/Royal Swedish Academy of Science-HO/File
    >
    > Edward Prescott, who picked up the Nobel Prize for Economics, said
    > President
    > George W. Bush's tax rate cuts were "pretty small" and should have been
    > bigger
    >
     
  10. Howard Kveck

    Howard Kveck Guest

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "k.j.papai" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:BD9FCE47.C2328%[email protected]
    > > Choke on this Liberal Socialists............
    > >
    > >

    > Whether I agree with this or not, this is NOT the place to post this Stevie
    > poo.
    >
    > -Ken


    Speaking of which, Ken, I noticed that you sort of changed your last
    entry in "Faces" after a recent outburst by someone (heh...). That was kind
    of funny, ya know?

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    "It looks like the squirrel's been showing everybody
    where he keeps his nuts."

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
     
  11. Steve

    Steve Guest

    On 10/23/04 12:00 PM, in article
    [email protected], "Howard Kveck"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Steve wrote:
    >>
    >>> Choke on this Liberal Socialists............
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> http://washington.news.designerz.com/nobel-laureate-calls-for-steeper-tax-cu
    >>> ts-in-us.html
    >>>
    >>> "Nobel laureate (in Economics) calls for steeper tax cuts in US"
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> AFP/Royal Swedish Academy of Science-HO/File
    >>>
    >>> Edward Prescott, who picked up the Nobel Prize for Economics, said President
    >>> George W. Bush's tax rate cuts were "pretty small" and should have been
    >>> bigger
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >> OTOH:
    >>
    >> http://econ-www.mit.edu/faculty/dornbusch/download.php?ids=16
    >>
    >> and, I wouldn't expect you to listen to Paul Krugman, but anyway...
    >>
    >> http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/09/26_krugman.shtml
    >>
    >> Steve

    >
    > Or:
    > http://openlettertothepresident.org/


    It is widely known that most of upper crust academia is Liberal.......
    Including the link to UC Berkeley (ha..ha!!) posted by Bornfield

    A lot of them even believe (and regularly say) Castro is "A great leader!"
    WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!





    http://people-press.org/fit/
     
  12. k.j.papai

    k.j.papai Guest

    "Howard Kveck" <.comcast.net...
    > "k.j.papai" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:BD9FCE47.C2328%[email protected]
    >> > Choke on this Liberal Socialists............
    >> >
    >> >

    >> Whether I agree with this or not, this is NOT the place to post this
    >> Stevie
    >> poo.
    >>
    >> -Ken

    >
    > Speaking of which, Ken, I noticed that you sort of changed your last
    > entry in "Faces" after a recent outburst by someone (heh...). That was
    > kind
    > of funny, ya know?


    I guess... which one?
    Was I easier on someone like a fattie Stevie?

    Brand New Nine:
    http://www.kenpapai.com/cycling/rbr/rbr9.html

    -Ken
     
  13. Howard Kveck

    Howard Kveck Guest

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "k.j.papai" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Howard Kveck" <.comcast.net...
    > > "k.j.papai" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >> news:BD9FCE47.C2328%[email protected]
    > >> > Choke on this Liberal Socialists............
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> Whether I agree with this or not, this is NOT the place to post this
    > >> Stevie
    > >> poo.
    > >>
    > >> -Ken

    > >
    > > Speaking of which, Ken, I noticed that you sort of changed your last
    > > entry in "Faces" after a recent outburst by someone (heh...). That was
    > > kind of funny, ya know?

    >
    > I guess... which one?
    > Was I easier on someone like a fattie Stevie?


    That was the one I had in mind.

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    "It looks like the squirrel's been showing everybody
    where he keeps his nuts."

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
     
  14. Howard Kveck

    Howard Kveck Guest

    In article <BDA004AE.C234D%[email protected]>,
    Steve <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 10/23/04 12:00 PM, in article
    > [email protected], "Howard Kveck"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:


    > > http://openlettertothepresident.org/

    >
    > It is widely known that most of upper crust academia is Liberal.......


    Well, Steve, can you offer any factual rebuttal to what they said? Just
    the fact that you think they might be liberals because they're part of
    academia isn't really an argument, you know. After all, isn't Prescott, the
    guy originally cited by you, a member of academia? Why does his opinion
    carry more weight than those others?

    By the way, I knnow that the Bush admin. has stated that the massive
    federal deficit is overwhelmingly due to the war on terror and homeland
    security spending increases, but the Congressional Budget Office released
    figures recently that plainly showed that over 60% of the deficit was due
    to the tax cuts.

    > A lot of them even believe (and regularly say) Castro is "A great leader!"
    > WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!


    Wow. Cites, please?

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    "It looks like the squirrel's been showing everybody
    where he keeps his nuts."

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
     
  15. Tom Kunich

    Tom Kunich Guest

    "Howard Kveck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > Well, Steve, can you offer any factual rebuttal to what they said?


    You mean besides that fact that it was written pre-911?
     
  16. Tom Kunich

    Tom Kunich Guest

    "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:BD9FF8AC.C2343%[email protected]
    > On 10/23/04 11:04 AM, in article [email protected], "Kyle
    > Legate" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Steve, you douche, why do you post political garbage to a bike racing
    >> group?
    >> Each of the candidates is just a slightly different perspective of the
    >> same
    >> fucking car wreck.

    >
    > Kyle, you fucking prick, some people are more interested in this than the
    > crappy cycling shit spewed in here lately....


    Kyle is butties with Crit Pro and MagillaGorilla. He hangs on their every
    word.
     
  17. Tom Young

    Tom Young Guest

    Howard Kveck <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]t>...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > Steve wrote:
    > >
    > > > Choke on this Liberal Socialists............
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > http://washington.news.designerz.com/nobel-laureate-calls-for-steeper-tax-cu
    > > > ts-in-us.html
    > > >
    > > > "Nobel laureate (in Economics) calls for steeper tax cuts in US"
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > AFP/Royal Swedish Academy of Science-HO/File
    > > >
    > > > Edward Prescott, who picked up the Nobel Prize for Economics, said President
    > > > George W. Bush's tax rate cuts were "pretty small" and should have been
    > > > bigger
    > > >

    > >
    > >
    > > OTOH:
    > >
    > > http://econ-www.mit.edu/faculty/dornbusch/download.php?ids=16
    > >
    > > and, I wouldn't expect you to listen to Paul Krugman, but anyway...
    > >
    > > http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/09/26_krugman.shtml
    > >
    > > Steve

    >
    > Or:
    > http://openlettertothepresident.org/


    And then there's this way of viewing things:

    Taxes Explained

    Sometimes Politicians can exclaim; "It's just a tax cut for the
    rich!", and it is just accepted to be fact. But what does that really
    mean?

    Just in case you are not completely clear on this issue, we hope the
    following will help.

    Tax Cuts -- A Simple Lesson In Economics

    This is how the cookie crumbles. Please read it carefully.

    Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand. Suppose that
    every day, ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to
    $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go
    something like this:

    The first four me


    n (the poorest) would pay nothing.

    The fifth would pay $1.

    The sixth would pay $3.

    The seventh $7.

    The eighth $12.

    The ninth $18.

    The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

    So, the ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed
    quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them
    a curve.

    "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce
    the cost of your daily meal by $20."

    So, now dinner for the ten only cost $80. The group still wanted to
    pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.

    So, the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free.
    But what about the other six, the paying customers? How could they
    divvy up the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share'?

    The six men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they
    subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the
    sixth man would each end up being 'PAID' to eat their meal. So, the
    restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's
    bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the
    amounts each should pay.

    And so:

    The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).

    The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).

    The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).

    The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings)

    The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).

    The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

    Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four
    continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men
    began to compare their savings.

    "I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He
    pointed to the tenth man "but he got $10!"

    "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar,
    too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than me!"

    "That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back
    when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

    "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get
    anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

    The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

    The next night the tenth man didn't show up for dinner, so the nine
    sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill,
    they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money
    between all of them for even half of the bill!

    And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how
    our tax system works. The ones who get the most money back from a
    reduction are those who paid in the most. Tax them too much, attack
    them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table
    anymore.
    There are lots of good restaurants in Europe and the Caribbean.
     
  18. Howard Kveck

    Howard Kveck Guest

    In article <RWBed.5541$%[email protected]>,
    "Tom Kunich" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Howard Kveck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > >
    > > Well, Steve, can you offer any factual rebuttal to what they said?

    >
    > You mean besides that fact that it was written pre-911?


    Oh? Better check those dates again, Tom. Try 4 October, 2004 for the
    Open Letter to the President, and 26 September 2003 for the Krugman piece
    supplied by Steve Bornfeld.

    --
    tanx,
    Howard

    "It looks like the squirrel's been showing everybody
    where he keeps his nuts."

    remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
     
  19. Steve wrote:
    > On 10/23/04 12:00 PM, in article
    > [email protected], "Howard Kveck"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>In article <[email protected]>,
    >>Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Steve wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Choke on this Liberal Socialists............
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>http://washington.news.designerz.com/nobel-laureate-calls-for-steeper-tax-cu
    >>>>ts-in-us.html
    >>>>
    >>>> "Nobel laureate (in Economics) calls for steeper tax cuts in US"
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>AFP/Royal Swedish Academy of Science-HO/File
    >>>>
    >>>>Edward Prescott, who picked up the Nobel Prize for Economics, said President
    >>>>George W. Bush's tax rate cuts were "pretty small" and should have been
    >>>>bigger
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>OTOH:
    >>>
    >>>http://econ-www.mit.edu/faculty/dornbusch/download.php?ids=16
    >>>
    >>>and, I wouldn't expect you to listen to Paul Krugman, but anyway...
    >>>
    >>>http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/09/26_krugman.shtml
    >>>
    >>>Steve

    >>
    >> Or:
    >>http://openlettertothepresident.org/

    >
    >
    > It is widely known that most of upper crust academia is Liberal.......
    > Including the link to UC Berkeley (ha..ha!!) posted by Bornfield
    >
    > A lot of them even believe (and regularly say) Castro is "A great leader!"
    > WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!


    Name's Bornfeld.
    We really weren't discussing Castro, were we? Quite a tumble he took
    on camera though.

    Steve
     
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