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So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a
realy sweet price. I'm definatley going with a set of the
Gazzaloddi 2.1 Cores for my tubed wheels, and I'm thinking
about the the new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles wheels.
anybody have expirience with these tires? other
recomendations? I'm an agresive cross country rider who
does a bit of racing, mostly endurance races like the
Vermont 50, and some 24 hour races.

Jason

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~~~~~~~~~~
__o _-\<,_ Jason Byrnes (_)/ (_)
~~~~~~~~~~
 
"slartibartfast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a
> realy sweet
price.
> I'm definatley going with a set of the Gazzaloddi 2.1
> Cores for my tubed wheels, and I'm thinking about the the
> new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles wheels. anybody have
> expirience with these tires? other recomendations?
I'm
> an agresive cross country rider who does a bit of racing,
> mostly endurance races like the Vermont 50, and some 24
> hour races.
>
> Jason

I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....While
they are heavier than normal mtn bike tires by a wide
margin, they don't feel much heavier at all to me, and for
turns in loose soil and sand, they corner like you are on
rails. Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost" give
up suspension. Almost.. The Nokians have a stiffer sidewall,
and huge cornering/side lugs which really prevent sliding.

Dan V
 
slartibartfast wrote:

> So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a
> realy sweet price. I'm definatley going with a set of the
> Gazzaloddi 2.1 Cores for my tubed wheels, and I'm thinking
> about the the new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles wheels.
> anybody have expirience with these tires? other
> recomendations? I'm an agresive cross country rider who
> does a bit of racing, mostly endurance races like the
> Vermont 50, and some 24 hour races.
>
They make good tires just as they make good phones -
go for it.

Regards

Bruno

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Dan Volker wrote:
> "slartibartfast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a
>> realy sweet price. I'm definatley going with a set of the
>> Gazzaloddi 2.1 Cores for my tubed wheels, and I'm
>> thinking about the the new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles
>> wheels. anybody have expirience with these tires? other
>> recomendations? I'm an agresive cross country rider who
>> does a bit of racing, mostly endurance races like the
>> Vermont 50, and some 24 hour races.
>>
>> Jason
>
> I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....

Try asking Shaun about the Gazzalodis. I think that he's
running them at the moment. I'm running the 2.1 UST NBX's at
the moment. To be perfectly honest I'm not overly impressed
with them on anything but smooth dry hardpack, clay or rock.
They grip like suction cups on the tarmac. They grip very
nicely in those conditions. I've found that they get twitchy
on anything loose and they are not good in the damp or wet
and slippery stuff like grass, damp stones, or leaves. The
tread pattern doesn't appear to be very aggressive so that's
to be expected. Your conditions may vary.
--
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"slartibartfast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a
> realy sweet
price.
> I'm definatley going with a set of the Gazzaloddi 2.1
> Cores for my tubed wheels, and I'm thinking about the the
> new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles wheels. anybody have
> expirience with these tires? other recomendations?
I'm
> an agresive cross country rider who does a bit of racing,
> mostly endurance races like the Vermont 50, and some 24
> hour races.

I've run both the Gazz 2.3's and 2.6's (latter currently,
and for the foreseeable future), and have become rather
fanatical about them. No other tyre of their size has come
close in traction performance and overall toughness. The
2.6's are damned heavy, mind, and the 2.3's a little more so
than their contemporaries, for the most part. If these are
anything to go by, then the 2.1's are going to be the
shiznit, as they say.

HTH some!

Shaun aRe
 
"Dan Volker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "slartibartfast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a
> > realy sweet
> price.
> > I'm definatley going with a set of the Gazzaloddi 2.1
> > Cores for my tubed wheels, and I'm thinking about the
> > the new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles wheels. anybody have
> > expirience with these tires? other recomendations?
> I'm
> > an agresive cross country rider who does a bit of
> > racing, mostly
endurance
> > races like the Vermont 50, and some 24 hour races.
> >
> > Jason
>
> I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....While
> they are heavier than normal mtn bike tires by a wide
> margin, they don't feel much heavier
at
> all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they
> corner like you are
on
> rails. Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost"
> give up suspension. Almost.. The Nokians have a stiffer
> sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs which really
> prevent sliding.

I'd go as far as to state, it is a fact, they are the best
damned 2.6 aggressive tyres on the market, by a wide margin.

The 2.3's don't have as thick a sidewall as the 2.6's
though, by quite a bit - they're not quite just a smaller
version. can't be run at silly stupid low pressures like the
2.6's (heh, like down to 14-ish psi!).

Shaun aRe - Nokian should f*cking pay me.
 
"iddqd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> slartibartfast wrote:
>
> > So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a
> > realy sweet
price.
> > I'm definatley going with a set of the Gazzaloddi 2.1
> > Cores for my tubed wheels, and I'm thinking about the
> > the new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles wheels. anybody have
> > expirience with these tires? other recomendations?
I'm
> > an agresive cross country rider who does a bit of
> > racing, mostly
endurance
> > races like the Vermont 50, and some 24 hour races.
> >
> They make good tires just as they make good phones -
> go for it.
>
> Regards
>
> Bruno

LOL! Uhhhm but they don't make phones Bruno...that would be
'Nokia'... ',;~}~

Shaun aRe - But you were kidding, right?!?
 
"Westie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dan Volker wrote:
> > "slartibartfast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at
> >> a realy sweet price. I'm definatley going with a set of
> >> the Gazzaloddi 2.1 Cores for my tubed wheels, and I'm
> >> thinking about the the new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles
> >> wheels. anybody have expirience with these tires? other
> >> recomendations? I'm an agresive cross country rider who
> >> does a bit of racing, mostly endurance races like the
> >> Vermont 50, and some 24 hour races.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >
> > I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....
>
> Try asking Shaun about the Gazzalodis. I think that he's
> running them at the moment.

Already spoken up, Westie me bwoy! ',;~}~

> I'm running the 2.1 UST NBX's at the moment. To be
> perfectly honest I'm
not
> overly impressed with them on anything but smooth dry
> hardpack, clay or rock. They grip like suction cups on the
> tarmac. They grip very nicely
in
> those conditions. I've found that they get twitchy on
> anything loose and they are not good in the damp or wet
> and slippery stuff like grass, damp stones, or leaves. The
> tread pattern doesn't appear to be very aggressive so
> that's to be expected. Your conditions may vary.

I believe they're intended for the conditions you state they
work well in. For loose, wet, slippy and rough, go
Gazzaloddi - it's what they excel at.

Shaun aRe
 
"Shaun Rimmer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Dan Volker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "slartibartfast" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> >
> > I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid
> > 25....While they are
heavier
> > than normal mtn bike tires by a wide margin, they don't
> > feel much
heavier
> at
> > all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they
> > corner like you
are
> on
> > rails. Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost"
> > give up suspension. Almost.. The Nokians have a stiffer
> > sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs which really
> > prevent sliding.
>
> I'd go as far as to state, it is a fact, they are the
> best damned 2.6 aggressive tyres on the market, by a
> wide margin.
>
> The 2.3's don't have as thick a sidewall as the 2.6's
> though, by quite a bit - they're not quite just a smaller
> version. can't be run at silly
stupid
> low pressures like the 2.6's (heh, like down to 14-
> ish psi!).
>
>
>
>
> Shaun aRe - Nokian should f*cking pay me.
>

Even though the 2.6's are Downhill tires, I am finding that
they allow me to outride most of my friends on twisty XC
trails, by allowing me to come into turns MUCH faster than I
could with a normal 2.2 Bontrager/panaracer etc, and then
hold this speed through the turns, coming out with much more
speed and less need for lots of acceleration out of the
turn...the energy saved here, is more than the increase it
takes to get the 2.6's up to speed. In the patches of sugar
sand we get on some trails here in S. Florida, the
2.6 Gazz Jr's allow me to float over the sand as if it was
just dirt, and in a sandy soil area like Florida, this is
worth the price of admission all by itself ! Dan V
 
"bomba" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 10:14:32 +0100, Shaun Rimmer wrote:
>
> > LOL! Uhhhm but they don't make phones Bruno...that would
> > be 'Nokia'... ',;~}~
>
> IIRC, Nokian is part of the Nokia corporation.


Shaun aRe - (Tried their phones once, utter shite - couldn't
get any cornering traction).
 
"Dan Volker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Shaun Rimmer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Dan Volker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "slartibartfast" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > > message
>
> > >
> > > I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid
> > > 25....While they are
> heavier
> > > than normal mtn bike tires by a wide margin, they
> > > don't feel much
> heavier
> > at
> > > all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they
> > > corner like you
> are
> > on
> > > rails. Over roots they soak up so much I could
> > > "almost" give up suspension. Almost.. The Nokians have
> > > a stiffer sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs
which
> > > really prevent sliding.
> >
> > I'd go as far as to state, it is a fact, they are the
> > best damned 2.6 aggressive tyres on the market, by a
> > wide margin.
> >
> > The 2.3's don't have as thick a sidewall as the 2.6's
> > though, by quite a bit - they're not quite just a
> > smaller version. can't be run at silly
> stupid
> > low pressures like the 2.6's (heh, like down to 14-ish
> > psi!).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Shaun aRe - Nokian should f*cking pay me.
> >
>
> Even though the 2.6's are Downhill tires, I am finding
> that they allow me
to
> outride most of my friends on twisty XC trails, by
> allowing me to come
into
> turns MUCH faster than I could with a normal 2.2
> Bontrager/panaracer etc, and then hold this speed through
> the turns, coming out with much more
speed
> and less need for lots of acceleration out of the
> turn...the energy saved here, is more than the increase it
> takes to get the 2.6's up to speed.

And ain't _THAT_ the truth! Like being on bloody rails it
is.

> In the patches of sugar sand we get on some trails here in
> S. Florida, the
> 2.6 Gazz Jr's allow me to float over the sand as if it was
> just dirt, and
in
> a sandy soil area like Florida, this is worth the price of
> admission all
by
> itself ! Dan V

Indeed it is! I have only ever heard _ONE_ person complain
about the Gazz's, and that was right here. He complained
because they gripped to well! (Seriously). He was in a rut,
the Gazz's bit the side and took him up out the rut, when he
wanted to squirm around in it or something, like his old
tyres used to.

Can't recall who off hand, but a reg.

*Hey, who are you dude?!?!?*

',;~}~

Shaun aRe
 
Thanks for all the reply's. I ended up doing the deed and
ordering the NBX ind Gaz 2.1's even though Shaun got me
seriously thinkin of the 2.3s. I'll be sure to post my
opinions when they come in and I've had a chance to get
them out on the trails. I just hope the NBXs wont be too
squirly for New England, though it sounds like they might
be. oh well at $22 I have to give them a try, and I can
always ebay 'em.

Jason

"slartibartfast" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So I've got an oppertunity to get some Nokian Tires at a
> realy sweet
price.
> I'm definatley going with a set of the Gazzaloddi 2.1
> Cores for my tubed wheels, and I'm thinking about the the
> new NBX 2.1 USTs for my tubles wheels. anybody have
> expirience with these tires? other recomendations?
I'm
> an agresive cross country rider who does a bit of racing,
> mostly endurance races like the Vermont 50, and some 24
> hour races.
>
> Jason
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~
> __o _-\<,_ Jason Byrnes (_)/ (_)
> ~~~~~~~~~~
 
> Indeed it is! I have only ever heard _ONE_ person complain
> about the Gazz's, and that was right here. He complained
> because they gripped to well! (Seriously). He was in a
> rut, the Gazz's bit the side and took him up out the rut,
> when he wanted to squirm around in it or something, like
> his old tyres used to.
>
> Can't recall who off hand, but a reg.
>
> *Hey, who are you dude?!?!?*
>
> ',;~}~
>
> Shaun aRe
>
>

Er, yeah, that was me. I was in a steep DH rut with a bit of
speed, perfectly happy being there as it was smoother than
what was outside the rut. I brushed up against the side of
it with the front, and the next thing I know, I'm airborne
heading out of the rut. It was a very ungraceful landing.

You gotta ride differently with Gazz's. I tried them again,
and got the hang of it after a while.

You have to really steer with precision, because they
will go where you point, even if you don't expect it.
Once you get the hang of them though, you can drag you
knees in the turns.

-Bruce
 
"Dan Volker" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid 25....While
> they are heavier than normal mtn bike tires by a wide
> margin, they don't feel much heavier at all to me, and for
> turns in loose soil and sand, they corner like you are on
> rails. Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost"
> give up suspension. Almost.. The Nokians have a stiffer
> sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs which really
> prevent sliding.
>
> Dan V

Since you are such an authority on mountain biking, I think
I'll run right out and buy some.

JD
 
"JD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Dan Volker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid
> > 25....While they are
heavier
> > than normal mtn bike tires by a wide margin, they don't
> > feel much
heavier at
> > all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they
> > corner like you
are on
> > rails. Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost"
> > give up suspension. Almost.. The Nokians have a stiffer
> > sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs which really
> > prevent sliding.
> >
> > Dan V
>
> Since you are such an authority on mountain biking, I
> think I'll run right out and buy some.
>
> JD

JD, I'll be happy to smoke you on a trail any time. With all
your baggage, it should be fun. Dan V
 
"Dan Volker" <[email protected]> had this to say
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>
> "JD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Dan Volker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> > I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid
>> > 25....While they are
> heavier
>> > than normal mtn bike tires by a wide margin, they don't
>> > feel much
> heavier at
>> > all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they
>> > corner like you
> are on
>> > rails. Over roots they soak up so much I could "almost"
>> > give up suspension. Almost.. The Nokians have a stiffer
>> > sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs which really
>> > prevent sliding.
>> >
>> > Dan V
>>
>> Since you are such an authority on mountain biking, I
>> think I'll run right out and buy some.
>>
>> JD
>
> JD, I'll be happy to smoke you on a trail any time. With
> all your baggage, it should be fun. Dan V
>
>

Don't do it Dan, JD'll probably smoke ya' cuz he rides
everyday! That's what one does when they don't have a
life...
 
"Dave W" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Dan Volker" <[email protected]> had this to say
> news:[email protected]
>
> >
> > "JD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> "Dan Volker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> >> > I put Nokian 2.6 Gazz Jr.'s on my Trek Liquid
> >> > 25....While they are
> > heavier
> >> > than normal mtn bike tires by a wide margin, they
> >> > don't feel much
> > heavier at
> >> > all to me, and for turns in loose soil and sand, they
> >> > corner like you
> > are on
> >> > rails. Over roots they soak up so much I could
> >> > "almost" give up suspension. Almost.. The Nokians
> >> > have a stiffer sidewall, and huge cornering/side lugs
> >> > which really prevent sliding.
> >> >
> >> > Dan V
> >>
> >> Since you are such an authority on mountain biking, I
> >> think I'll run right out and buy some.
> >>
> >> JD
> >
> > JD, I'll be happy to smoke you on a trail any time. With
> > all your baggage, it should be fun. Dan V
> >
> >
>
> Don't do it Dan, JD'll probably smoke ya' cuz he
> rides everyday! That's what one does when they don't
> have a life...

Thanks for the warning :) I'm riding 5 days per week, and
the last thing I would worry about is being smoked by JD on
his lame ss bike. I'm sure our local trails would be too
technically demanding to be fair for him, so I'm not quite
sure "where" a challenge like this would happen.... Dan V
 
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