norco :confused:

[Monique Y. Mudama]

On 2004-07-19, Muddy penned:
>
> If sounding pompous and snobbish makes you a better person than
> someone thats come to this forum, seeking advise, then I welcome
> school kids, and the public minority that suffer from illiteracy, to
> post away here on this 'public' newsgroup.

If using proper grammar and punctuation sounds pompous and snobbish,
call me a pompous snob. You're the one inserting a perceived value
judgement into the discussion. I can't speak for Penny, but in my case,
I don't think that using proper grammar makes you better or worse; it
does make your posts easier to read, which in turn makes me more likely
to try to answer them usefully.

If reading and posting to newsgroups helps kids and disadvantaged folk
improve their literacy and computer skills, thereby helping them to
educate themselves about any topic that suits their fancy, I also
welcome them. Unfortunately, I don't know how prevalent internet access
is for those who would most benefit in these ways.

> You yourself might want to think about how others percieve you.

When I am asking a favor from a group of strangers, I'm always careful
to present myself in the least offensive manner possible. In the case
of newsgroups, this usually means lurking for a while and getting to
know the tone and personalities of the group.

--
monique

"Get a bicycle. You will not regret it, if you live."
-- Mark Twain

 

[Stephen Baker]

Muddy says:

>If sounding pompous and snobbish makes you a better person than
>someone thats come to this forum, seeking advise, then I welcome
>school kids, and the public minority that suffer from illiteracy, to
>post away here on this 'public' newsgroup.

Which only makes YOU sound pompous and snobbish, BTW. Good communication
skills are a valuable asset, and while I may occasionally (shut up, Dave W)
play the Spelling Nazi here, I am quite prepared someday for the bad speller to
say "Hey, lighten up. I'm severely dyslexic / only 10 years old / pick good
reason for bad spelling of you choice".

>You yourself might want to think about how others percieve you.

Et tu....

Steve

 

[Dave W]

"pas" <[email protected]> had this to say
news:[email protected]

> Muddy wrote:> how sad
>> I left this newsgroup because certain readers were more interested in
>> *****ing than helping others out now I other forums like mbuk and
>> alike - cos atleast there talking about biking
>
> It's easier to talk about biking when a post is literate, is all.
>
>> norco's are a great bike my friend has one climbs great though they
>> seem cheap and are cheap so you get what you pay for but then it
>> rides great and feels great - its upto you - are you after a bike
>> that looks good or feels good?
>>
>> - and I didn't use any caps or puntuate. how about that...
>
> Sure you did, you capilized "I", and used "?". It's all in how you
> want people to percieve you... illiterate, immature and using the
> parent's computer when cutting school ( at least that's how "u-speak"
> appears to me) or someone who's literate, somewhat mature ( har har)
> and interested in communicating well about the passion for biking,
> with the world.
>
>

sounds a bit anal-retentive to me, or at least just being downright
snobby...

na, couldn't be. This is, after all AM-B.

Dave (what the hell was I thinking?)

 

[Muddy]

bomba <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:13:14 -0700, Muddy wrote:
>
> > I left this newsgroup because certain readers were more interested in
> > *****ing than helping others out now I other forums like mbuk and
> > alike - cos atleast there talking about biking
>
> You know, from your spelling and grammar, I'd have never pegged you as an
> MBUK forum member...
>
> > norco's are a great bike my friend has one climbs great though they
> > seem cheap and are cheap so you get what you pay for but then it rides
> > great and feels great - its upto you - are you after a bike that looks
> > good or feels good?
>
> Holy ****, is English your first language?
>
> > - and I didn't use any caps or puntuate. how about that...
>
> MBUK forum is thataway --->
>
> For those unaware of the MBUK forum, this is a particularly cracking
> example: http://www.mbuk.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=51605

Your right, perfect example. It just goes to show your own arrogance
towards communicating.

Look through this thread, a fellow newsgroup reader asked a reasonable
question. I answered, and a few others managed to, too. Then we have
the handful lecturing about proper literacy and comunication, notice
these are the people that havent bothered to answer the original
question? You think MBUK's bad, you should look at this newsgroup. You
spend more time *****ing about other people/places, that you fail to
create a point... It wasn't puntuated, we know, we read, and we still
managed to answer.

As for the MBUK shorthand type, where's your youth gone? The first
sign of getting old is when you start grumpily complaining about the
younger generation.

Muddy

 

[bomba]

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:12:09 -0700, Muddy wrote:

> Your right, perfect example. It just goes to show your own arrogance
> towards communicating.

My 'arrogance towards communicating'?

> Look through this thread, a fellow newsgroup reader asked a reasonable
> question. I answered, and a few others managed to, too. Then we have
> the handful lecturing about proper literacy and comunication, notice
> these are the people that havent bothered to answer the original
> question?

From my own personal point of view, I was not qualified to answer. I don't
know enough about the Norco brand. That does not prevent me responding to
you though - this is a discussion forum, after all.

> You think MBUK's bad, you should look at this newsgroup. You
> spend more time *****ing about other people/places, that you fail to
> create a point... It wasn't puntuated, we know, we read, and we still
> managed to answer.

Which is fine. You have your forum nuances and we have ours. Here we
prefer to be able to read a post without having to translate it first.

> As for the MBUK shorthand type, where's your youth gone?

My youth? You make it sound like I'm really old, like I'm in my 30's or
something...

> The first sign of getting old is when you start grumpily complaining
> about the younger generation.

I'm not complaining about youth, I'm complaining about being able to read
posts. I'm English and I speak English - I'd expect in an English-speaking
group to read posts written in English, not some horrible bastardisation
of the language which is difficult to understand.

I note that you're fully able to write and punctuate when you set your
mind to it. It only takes a little amount of effort and it is appreciated.
Not bothering is just pure laziness.