Not all bike racers are stupid



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Kurgan Gringioni

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Dumbasses -

You know that saying: "bike racing makes you stupid"

Well, it's basically true, but once people quit racing, they have a
chance to snap out of it.

This is an interview w/ a guy I used to race with at UCSD.


http://www.eetimes.com/issue/fp/sho...JUNN2JVN?articleID=191901472&_requestid=60045


Unfortunately, you need to subscribe, but the non-idiot rbr'ers will
know how to get around that. For the rest of you, he's one of the guys
who came up with the "invisibility cloak" (so named by the mass media
after the Harry Potter device) metamaterials where shaping them a
certain way at the nano level causes the material to have weird
properties like a negative index of refraction. The above article is
one where he's on the cover of EE magazine. They're getting published
in scientific journals too (Science) and in layman's mags like
Scientific American and Discover.

So even though the bike racing world is filled with Fat Guys claiming
they're not fat, Stupid Guys claiming they're not stupid and Doped Guys
claiming they don't dope, there's still hope once its all over.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.
 
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> Dumbasses -
>
> You know that saying: "bike racing makes you stupid"
>
> Well, it's basically true, but once people quit racing, they have a
> chance to snap out of it.
>
> This is an interview w/ a guy I used to race with at UCSD.
>
>
> http://www.eetimes.com/issue/fp/sho...JUNN2JVN?articleID=191901472&_requestid=60045
>
>
> Unfortunately, you need to subscribe, but the non-idiot rbr'ers will
> know how to get around that. For the rest of you, he's one of the guys
> who came up with the "invisibility cloak" (so named by the mass media
> after the Harry Potter device) metamaterials where shaping them a
> certain way at the nano level causes the material to have weird
> properties like a negative index of refraction. The above article is
> one where he's on the cover of EE magazine. They're getting published
> in scientific journals too (Science) and in layman's mags like
> Scientific American and Discover.
>
> So even though the bike racing world is filled with Fat Guys claiming
> they're not fat, Stupid Guys claiming they're not stupid and Doped Guys
> claiming they don't dope, there's still hope once its all over.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.

Let's hope it's not the fred who offered Landis the $100k to take a lie
detector test. I believe he was on your team as well. Are you talking
about Doug Gross?
 
"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dumbasses -
>
> You know that saying: "bike racing makes you stupid"
>
> Well, it's basically true, but once people quit racing, they have a
> chance to snap out of it.
>
> This is an interview w/ a guy I used to race with at UCSD.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3791795.stm

I want a skin suit and a bike made out of that stuff. Then, it would look
like my head was just floating around. Now that would be stupid.
--
Marty
 
"Marty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Dumbasses -
>>
>> You know that saying: "bike racing makes you stupid"
>>
>> Well, it's basically true, but once people quit racing, they have a
>> chance to snap out of it.
>>
>> This is an interview w/ a guy I used to race with at UCSD.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3791795.stm
>
Oops, wrong guy and wrong technology.

David Schurig is the guy.
--
Marty
 
"Kurgan Gringioni" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dumbasses -
>
> You know that saying: "bike racing makes you stupid"
>
> Well, it's basically true, but once people quit racing, they have a
> chance to snap out of it.
>
> This is an interview w/ a guy I used to race with at UCSD.
>
http://www.eetimes.com/issue/fp/sho...JUNN2JVN?articleID=191901472&_requestid=60045
>
EE Times: How should EEs imagine these transformations?


Schurig: They should imagine a piece of cloth woven with a hole in it made
by pushing a pointed object between the threads without tearing them. This
hole is where you hide something in the two-dimensional space.
Electromagnetic fields are confined to move along the threads, and can never
access anything hidden in the hole.


Of course, the trick is to come up with the material properties that make
our normal space, which doesn't have holes in it, behave as if it did. To do
that, you take a mathematical description of how the distorted thread
pattern differs from the normal weft and weave of the cloth. This is the
coordinate transformation. Then you ask, is there a set of material
properties that will give the same form for Maxwell's equations as you find
for them under this coordinate transformation?


Those material properties make electromagnetic fields in our boring, flat,
hole-free space behave as they do in the much more interesting, distorted
space.

EE Times: Cool. How should dumbasses imagine these transformations?

Smart Guy: You're talking about cyclists right?
 
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> Dumbasses -
>
> You know that saying: "bike racing makes you stupid"
>
> Well, it's basically true, but once people quit racing, they have a
> chance to snap out of it.
>
> This is an interview w/ a guy I used to race with at UCSD.
>
>
> http://www.eetimes.com/issue/fp/sho...JUNN2JVN?articleID=191901472&_requestid=60045
>
>
> Unfortunately, you need to subscribe, but the non-idiot rbr'ers will
> know how to get around that. For the rest of you, he's one of the guys
> who came up with the "invisibility cloak" (so named by the mass media
> after the Harry Potter device) metamaterials where shaping them a
> certain way at the nano level causes the material to have weird
> properties like a negative index of refraction. The above article is
> one where he's on the cover of EE magazine. They're getting published
> in scientific journals too (Science) and in layman's mags like
> Scientific American and Discover.
>
> So even though the bike racing world is filled with Fat Guys claiming
> they're not fat, Stupid Guys claiming they're not stupid and Doped Guys
> claiming they don't dope, there's still hope once its all over.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.

Marla Streb's not exactly a slacker in the intellectual arena either.
Bill C
 
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> Dumbasses -
>
> You know that saying: "bike racing makes you stupid"
>
> Well, it's basically true, but once people quit racing, they have a
> chance to snap out of it.
>
> This is an interview w/ a guy I used to race with at UCSD.
>
>
> http://www.eetimes.com/issue/fp/sho...JUNN2JVN?articleID=191901472&_requestid=60045
>
>
> Unfortunately, you need to subscribe, but the non-idiot rbr'ers will
> know how to get around that.

That was pretty confusing at first. Then I remembered I'm in the
industry and already have an account. If you seach on my company's name
on that site you get 638 hits.

> For the rest of you, he's one of the guys
> who came up with the "invisibility cloak" (so named by the mass media
> after the Harry Potter device) metamaterials where shaping them a
> certain way at the nano level causes the material to have weird
> properties like a negative index of refraction. The above article is
> one where he's on the cover of EE magazine. They're getting published
> in scientific journals too (Science) and in layman's mags like
> Scientific American and Discover.

That's an iteresting article. The interviewer reminds me of the guy in
engineering school who would read ahead so that he could ask leading
questions during the lectures. Only this guy has taken it to another
level. I'm guessing that he's annoyed that he didn't get his own damn
cloaking device working in time to wear it to the interview.

> So even though the bike racing world is filled with Fat Guys claiming
> they're not fat, Stupid Guys claiming they're not stupid and Doped Guys
> claiming they don't dope, there's still hope once its all over.

Yeah sure. Which newsgroup does your physics buddy use to brag about
once knowing you?

>
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.

Bret
 
"Bill C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
>> Dumbasses -
>>
>> You know that saying: "bike racing makes you stupid"
>>
>> Well, it's basically true, but once people quit racing, they have a
>> chance to snap out of it.
>>
>> This is an interview w/ a guy I used to race with at UCSD.
>>
>>
>> http://www.eetimes.com/issue/fp/sho...JUNN2JVN?articleID=191901472&_requestid=60045
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, you need to subscribe, but the non-idiot rbr'ers will
>> know how to get around that. For the rest of you, he's one of the guys
>> who came up with the "invisibility cloak" (so named by the mass media
>> after the Harry Potter device) metamaterials where shaping them a
>> certain way at the nano level causes the material to have weird
>> properties like a negative index of refraction. The above article is
>> one where he's on the cover of EE magazine. They're getting published
>> in scientific journals too (Science) and in layman's mags like
>> Scientific American and Discover.
>>
>> So even though the bike racing world is filled with Fat Guys claiming
>> they're not fat, Stupid Guys claiming they're not stupid and Doped Guys
>> claiming they don't dope, there's still hope once its all over.
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> K. Gringioni.
>
> Marla Streb's not exactly a slacker in the intellectual arena either.
> Bill C

Rebecca Twig - smart.
--
Marty
 
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> Dumbasses -
>
> You know that saying: "bike racing makes you stupid"
>
> Well, it's basically true, but once people quit racing, they have a
> chance to snap out of it.
>
> So even though the bike racing world is filled with Fat Guys claiming
> they're not fat, Stupid Guys claiming they're not stupid and Doped Guys
> claiming they don't dope, there's still hope once its all over.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> K. Gringioni.

I have this theory that your race category is inversely related to your
IQ. As you go up in category, you experience a (necessary) reduction
in cerebral function. Or perhaps a reduction in rational thought
process in necessary to successfully move up in category. This
explains a lot about the pro bike racers I've met. Of course, it could
only apply to road and track sprinters and criterium specialists, as
they are disproportionately represented in my sample group. Feel free
to debunk my hypothesis.
 
yeahyeah wrote:

> I have this theory that your race category is inversely related to your
> IQ. As you go up in category, you experience a (necessary) reduction
> in cerebral function. Or perhaps a reduction in rational thought
> process in necessary to successfully move up in category. This
> explains a lot about the pro bike racers I've met. Of course, it could
> only apply to road and track sprinters and criterium specialists, as
> they are disproportionately represented in my sample group. Feel free
> to debunk my hypothesis.

I disagree, using myself as an example [brain engages second gear].
Hang on a minute, you're right. It took me a while to figure that out.
Does the converse apply? I need to drop down a few categories again to
get smart again.

Jeff
 
yeahyeah wrote:
> I have this theory that your race category is inversely related to your
> IQ.

Sounds like a racist theory ...
 
Marty wrote:
> "Bill C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> >> Dumbasses -
> >>
> >> You know that saying: "bike racing makes you stupid"
> >>
> >> Well, it's basically true, but once people quit racing, they have a
> >> chance to snap out of it.
> >>
> >> This is an interview w/ a guy I used to race with at UCSD.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.eetimes.com/issue/fp/sho...JUNN2JVN?articleID=191901472&_requestid=60045
> >>
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, you need to subscribe, but the non-idiot rbr'ers will
> >> know how to get around that. For the rest of you, he's one of the guys
> >> who came up with the "invisibility cloak" (so named by the mass media
> >> after the Harry Potter device) metamaterials where shaping them a
> >> certain way at the nano level causes the material to have weird
> >> properties like a negative index of refraction. The above article is
> >> one where he's on the cover of EE magazine. They're getting published
> >> in scientific journals too (Science) and in layman's mags like
> >> Scientific American and Discover.
> >>
> >> So even though the bike racing world is filled with Fat Guys claiming
> >> they're not fat, Stupid Guys claiming they're not stupid and Doped Guys
> >> claiming they don't dope, there's still hope once its all over.
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >>
> >> K. Gringioni.
> >
> > Marla Streb's not exactly a slacker in the intellectual arena either.
> > Bill C
>
> Rebecca Twig - smart.
> --
> Marty

No, Rebecca Twig - hot. Well, okay, I heard she's pretty smart, too.

Fred
 
Jeff Jones wrote:
> yeahyeah wrote:
>
> > I have this theory that your race category is inversely related to your
> > IQ. As you go up in category, you experience a (necessary) reduction
> > in cerebral function. Or perhaps a reduction in rational thought
> > process in necessary to successfully move up in category. This
> > explains a lot about the pro bike racers I've met. Of course, it could
> > only apply to road and track sprinters and criterium specialists, as
> > they are disproportionately represented in my sample group. Feel free
> > to debunk my hypothesis.
>
> I disagree, using myself as an example [brain engages second gear].
> Hang on a minute, you're right. It took me a while to figure that out.
> Does the converse apply? I need to drop down a few categories again to
> get smart again.
>
> Jeff

Yes, if Kurgan is correct, you can get smart again. But I think this
applies only if you can let yourself get out of shape and then go out
on a group ride with your fit buddies and resist the urge to ride
yourself into the ground by following their attacks. I'm not quite
there, as I stupidly rode a 20k TT like I would have when fit, and then
was wrecked for days.
 
Bill C wrote:
>
> Marla Streb's not exactly a slacker in the intellectual arena either.





Dumbass -


She *was* smart, that is, until she started racing bikes.

Then she started running into trees before races.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.
 
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:26:41 -0700, Howard Kveck wrote:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0684824299

Including the first number is enough. Is there a way of telling MTNW
not to break up long urls? Unfortunately my reader doesn't recognize
multiline urls even between <>s.

--
E. Dronkert
 
In article <[email protected]>,
Ewoud Dronkert <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:26:41 -0700, Howard Kveck wrote:
> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0684824299
>
> Including the first number is enough.

I didn't know that - thanks.

> Is there a way of telling MTNW not to break up long urls? Unfortunately
> my reader doesn't recognize multiline urls even between <>s.

If there is, I couldn't find anything on it. I'll look more later. I could have
done tinyurl, but decided to go direct instead. Now I know about shortening it up.

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
 
yeahyeah wrote:
> Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
>> Dumbasses -
>>
>> You know that saying: "bike racing makes you stupid"
>>
>> Well, it's basically true, but once people quit racing, they have a
>> chance to snap out of it.
>>
>> So even though the bike racing world is filled with Fat Guys claiming
>> they're not fat, Stupid Guys claiming they're not stupid and Doped Guys
>> claiming they don't dope, there's still hope once its all over.
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> K. Gringioni.
>
> I have this theory that your race category is inversely related to your
> IQ. As you go up in category, you experience a (necessary) reduction
> in cerebral function. Or perhaps a reduction in rational thought
> process in necessary to successfully move up in category. This
> explains a lot about the pro bike racers I've met. Of course, it could
> only apply to road and track sprinters and criterium specialists, as
> they are disproportionately represented in my sample group. Feel free
> to debunk my hypothesis.
>

By this theory, Kunich is a Cat -12.
 
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