NRR: White Ranch



GeeDubb wrote:
> "Ride-A-Lot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Checked out my hole in the ground, so I thought I'd take a peak up the
>> road at my local MTB trails.
>>
>> Got snow?
>>
>> http://www.schnauzers.ws/images/122306/IMG_5209.JPG
>> http://www.schnauzers.ws/images/122306/IMG_5211.JPG
>>
> I see a good use for my snow shoes

I was thinking about picking up a pair at REI tomorrow. Might be fun to
make it to the top of WR and take some pictures.

>
> how's the hole coming along?

Well, it doesn't look like they have dug one. I'm not complaining. The
longer they take the better my prospects of selling the one in NJ is. I
got a call two weeks ago that they were starting the foundation, but I
don't see anything. They have a lot of work to do. The ground has a
very high clay content so they will be using a structural floor system
with tubes sunk 20' into the bedrock and concrete slabs suspended above
the ground.

>
> got the shock today. I'll let you know what I think tomorrow.

Cool.


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"Ride-A-Lot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> GeeDubb wrote:
>> "Ride-A-Lot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Checked out my hole in the ground, so I thought I'd take a peak up the
>>> road at my local MTB trails.
>>>
>>> Got snow?
>>>
>>> http://www.schnauzers.ws/images/122306/IMG_5209.JPG
>>> http://www.schnauzers.ws/images/122306/IMG_5211.JPG
>>>
>> I see a good use for my snow shoes
>
> I was thinking about picking up a pair at REI tomorrow. Might be fun to
> make it to the top of WR and take some pictures.

REI is way expensive on, well, everything. I'd rent a pair then search on
line for a lower price.

>
>>
>> how's the hole coming along?
>
> Well, it doesn't look like they have dug one. I'm not complaining. The
> longer they take the better my prospects of selling the one in NJ is. I
> got a call two weeks ago that they were starting the foundation, but I
> don't see anything. They have a lot of work to do. The ground has a very
> high clay content so they will be using a structural floor system with
> tubes sunk 20' into the bedrock and concrete slabs suspended above the
> ground.

cha ching

Gary

>
>>
>> got the shock today. I'll let you know what I think tomorrow.
>
> Cool.
>
>
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> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
> www.schnauzers.ws
 
GeeDubb wrote:

>> I was thinking about picking up a pair at REI tomorrow. Might be fun
>> to make it to the top of WR and take some pictures.
>
> REI is way expensive on, well, everything. I'd rent a pair then search
> on line for a lower price.
>

I've got a nice dividend to spend with them.

>>
>>>
>>> how's the hole coming along?
>>
>> Well, it doesn't look like they have dug one. I'm not complaining.
>> The longer they take the better my prospects of selling the one in NJ
>> is. I got a call two weeks ago that they were starting the
>> foundation, but I don't see anything. They have a lot of work to do.
>> The ground has a very high clay content so they will be using a
>> structural floor system with tubes sunk 20' into the bedrock and
>> concrete slabs suspended above the ground.
>
> cha ching
>

Not for me. Contract was already negotiated beore the soil test.

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Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> GeeDubb wrote:
>> "Ride-A-Lot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Checked out my hole in the ground, so I thought I'd take a peak up
>>> the road at my local MTB trails.
>>>
>>> Got snow?
>>>
>>> http://www.schnauzers.ws/images/122306/IMG_5209.JPG
>>> http://www.schnauzers.ws/images/122306/IMG_5211.JPG
>>>
>> I see a good use for my snow shoes
>
> I was thinking about picking up a pair at REI tomorrow. Might be fun to
> make it to the top of WR and take some pictures.
>
>>
>> how's the hole coming along?
>
> Well, it doesn't look like they have dug one. I'm not complaining. The
> longer they take the better my prospects of selling the one in NJ is. I
> got a call two weeks ago that they were starting the foundation, but I
> don't see anything. They have a lot of work to do. The ground has a
> very high clay content so they will be using a structural floor system
> with tubes sunk 20' into the bedrock and concrete slabs suspended above
> the ground.

Our house in Brighton was built that way. We figured in 10,000 years,
after much dirt had eroded away, the only thing left of the houses in
the area would be ten foot tall concrete rectangles on thick pillars 12
feet in the air. Archaeologists would think the whole neighborhood was
some kind of weird religious site (no doubt the Suv sect). :)

Make sure the builder keeps things dry under the flooring above the
dirt. The underside of ours molded during the really rainy spring it
was under construction. We made them replace the entire floor. The
builder was not happy. TS!



Shawn
 
Shawn wrote:
>
> Our house in Brighton was built that way. We figured in 10,000 years,
> after much dirt had eroded away, the only thing left of the houses in
> the area would be ten foot tall concrete rectangles on thick pillars 12
> feet in the air. Archaeologists would think the whole neighborhood was
> some kind of weird religious site (no doubt the Suv sect). :)
>
> Make sure the builder keeps things dry under the flooring above the
> dirt. The underside of ours molded during the really rainy spring it
> was under construction. We made them replace the entire floor. The
> builder was not happy. TS!
>

Cool! Thanks for the tip. My guess is that they'll have to wait for
things to dry up. They gave me a lot of cool drawings for how they will
do it. They are putting a drain on the outside of the foundation. I've
never see that before.

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Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> Shawn wrote:

> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
> www.schnauzers.ws

Did you know that the area you are building your house in could be
radioactive?
You're awfully close to Rocky Flats and the water around Golden is
notorious for
being contaminated with radioactivity.
 
CowPunk wrote:
> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>> Shawn wrote:
>
>> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
>> www.schnauzers.ws
>
> Did you know that the area you are building your house in could be
> radioactive?
> You're awfully close to Rocky Flats and the water around Golden is
> notorious for
> being contaminated with radioactivity.
>

Do you ever say anything positive?

I've already received the soil tests and everything is fine. I'll do a
second check for radon when the house is complete and put in the
necessary ventilation if it is positive. I've been there and done that.
NJ is notorious for radon.

As for the water, I'm not in the hills where I would be using well
water. It's city services and if it's radioactive, bring it on. I've
always wanted self luminescence.

{Homer Simpson Voice On]
It's pronounced Nucular
{Homer Simpson Voice Off]

Oh and by the way...

You are not exactly in a non-active area yourself. Might want to get
that basement tested:

http://web.uccs.edu/geogenvs/hazards/disclaimer.htm

In fact Radon deaths of non-smokers in Jefferson County are just 9 per
million more than El Paso County (44 vs 35). Factor in that JeffCo is a
much larger area than El Paso County.



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"Ride-A-Lot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> CowPunk wrote:
>> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>>> Shawn wrote:
>>
>>> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
>>> www.schnauzers.ws
>>
>> Did you know that the area you are building your house in could be
>> radioactive?
>> You're awfully close to Rocky Flats and the water around Golden is
>> notorious for being contaminated with radioactivity.
>>
>
> Do you ever say anything positive?
>
> I've already received the soil tests and everything is fine. I'll do a
> second check for radon when the house is complete and put in the necessary
> ventilation if it is positive. I've been there and done that. NJ is
> notorious for radon.
>
> As for the water, I'm not in the hills where I would be using well water.
> It's city services and if it's radioactive, bring it on. I've always
> wanted self luminescence.


what is the bentonite content of the soil?
 
Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> CowPunk wrote:
>> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>>> Shawn wrote:
>>
>>> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
>>> www.schnauzers.ws
>>
>> Did you know that the area you are building your house in could be
>> radioactive?
>> You're awfully close to Rocky Flats and the water around Golden is
>> notorious for being contaminated with radioactivity.
>>
>
> Do you ever say anything positive?
>
> I've already received the soil tests and everything is fine. I'll do a
> second check for radon when the house is complete and put in the
> necessary ventilation if it is positive. I've been there and done that.
> NJ is notorious for radon.
>
> As for the water, I'm not in the hills where I would be using well
> water. It's city services and if it's radioactive, bring it on. I've
> always wanted self luminescence.
>
> {Homer Simpson Voice On]
> It's pronounced Nucular
> {Homer Simpson Voice Off]
>
> Oh and by the way...
>
> You are not exactly in a non-active area yourself. Might want to get
> that basement tested:
>
> http://web.uccs.edu/geogenvs/hazards/disclaimer.htm
>
> In fact Radon deaths of non-smokers in Jefferson County are just 9 per
> million more than El Paso County (44 vs 35). Factor in that JeffCo is a
> much larger area than El Paso County.

Actually he's talking about plutonium.
(If you didn't know. Sorry if this is an old story)
From the '50s through the early '80s, the only site for manufacturing
of the plutonium triggers for US nukes was right up highway 93 from your
new home between Boulder and Golden on Rocky Flats. Lots of fires and
spills over the years released significant amounts of plutonium. The
sediment in the bottom of a lake to the east of the plant, where water
for some communities comes from, has Pu in it.
For Punk to think that the residents of Jefferson, Broomfield or Boulder
counties ignore this and don't test the water is terribly naive. Also,
the problem areas are down wind and down hill of the plant. Golden in
neither.
Here end the history lesson ;-)



Shawn
 
small change wrote:
> "Ride-A-Lot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> CowPunk wrote:
>>> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>>>> Shawn wrote:
>>>> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
>>>> www.schnauzers.ws
>>> Did you know that the area you are building your house in could be
>>> radioactive?
>>> You're awfully close to Rocky Flats and the water around Golden is
>>> notorious for being contaminated with radioactivity.
>>>
>> Do you ever say anything positive?
>>
>> I've already received the soil tests and everything is fine. I'll do a
>> second check for radon when the house is complete and put in the necessary
>> ventilation if it is positive. I've been there and done that. NJ is
>> notorious for radon.
>>
>> As for the water, I'm not in the hills where I would be using well water.
>> It's city services and if it's radioactive, bring it on. I've always
>> wanted self luminescence.
>
>
> what is the bentonite content of the soil?

Ha! The real question for the Colorado Front Range is "What's the soil
content of the bentonite?" Terrible stuff.

Shawn
 
"Shawn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> small change wrote:
>> "Ride-A-Lot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> CowPunk wrote:
>>>> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>>>>> Shawn wrote:
>>>>> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
>>>>> www.schnauzers.ws
>>>> Did you know that the area you are building your house in could be
>>>> radioactive?
>>>> You're awfully close to Rocky Flats and the water around Golden is
>>>> notorious for being contaminated with radioactivity.
>>>>
>>> Do you ever say anything positive?
>>>
>>> I've already received the soil tests and everything is fine. I'll do a
>>> second check for radon when the house is complete and put in the
>>> necessary ventilation if it is positive. I've been there and done that.
>>> NJ is notorious for radon.
>>>
>>> As for the water, I'm not in the hills where I would be using well
>>> water. It's city services and if it's radioactive, bring it on. I've
>>> always wanted self luminescence.
>>
>>
>> what is the bentonite content of the soil?
>
> Ha! The real question for the Colorado Front Range is "What's the soil
> content of the bentonite?" Terrible stuff.
>
> Shawn

yep, it will crack your foundation right into pieces if you don't account
for soil swelling in the build process.
Bentonite is a kind of clay that's present in large quantities in many
places in Rockies. It will easily absorb over 200 times it's weight in
water.
 
Shawn wrote:
> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
> > CowPunk wrote:
> >> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
SNIP
>
> Shawn

Radon? I thought that was funny...

Regardless, it was mearly a little poke at Ridey, I was teasing him.
And all my posts aren't
negative, it's just the way you choose to interpret them. You need to
lighten up. You take
all my posts way too seriously. I guess you've never heard of Shootin'
the Bull? or Sarcasm?

I'm sure you'll be OK though. But if your kids grow an extra toe, I
told you so.

However, It did show that Ridey really hasn't done his homework on the
area he's moving to.
There is some history around Golden concerning radiation contamination.
You might
check the School of Mines for more info. If you're that serious about
it. I was always told
to check any house you move into in Golden because of the radiation,
I'm quite surprised
no one ever told you about it. Especially the pipes/water. City
water, not well.
I'm sure the wells are safer. I believe the city gets it water from
Stanley Lake,
just south of Rocky Flats. Closer than your house.

And Shawn, if you don't think the wind blows South from Rocky Flats to
Golden, you're
smokin' crack. Just like that the blizzard last week blew in from the
NorthEast.
It's called an "upslope"... and that's when we get dumped on.
 
CowPunk wrote:

snip

> And Shawn, if you don't think the wind blows South from Rocky Flats to
> Golden, you're
> smokin' crack. Just like that the blizzard last week blew in from the
> NorthEast.
> It's called an "upslope"... and that's when we get dumped on.

I've lived, worked, and/or flown in the Boulder area on a regular basis
since 1981. I'm well aware of which direction the wind blows here (in
many senses of the phrase).

Shawn
 
small change wrote:

> what is the bentonite content of the soil?

Let's leave religion out of this.

Bill "yeah, yeah...slow afternoon" S.
 
small change wrote:
> "Ride-A-Lot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> CowPunk wrote:
>>> Ride-A-Lot wrote:
>>>> Shawn wrote:
>>>> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
>>>> www.schnauzers.ws
>>> Did you know that the area you are building your house in could be
>>> radioactive?
>>> You're awfully close to Rocky Flats and the water around Golden is
>>> notorious for being contaminated with radioactivity.
>>>
>> Do you ever say anything positive?
>>
>> I've already received the soil tests and everything is fine. I'll do a
>> second check for radon when the house is complete and put in the necessary
>> ventilation if it is positive. I've been there and done that. NJ is
>> notorious for radon.
>>
>> As for the water, I'm not in the hills where I would be using well water.
>> It's city services and if it's radioactive, bring it on. I've always
>> wanted self luminescence.
>
>
> what is the bentonite content of the soil?
>
>

Bentonite is a very big problem in this area. I have seen houses not
properly constructed for it and it's very sad. That being said, the
report states potentially moderate to highly expansive soils are present
on the lot. I take this to mean Bentonite. That is why the house will
be built on a grade beam and drilled pier foundation. Thus the floor
will be structurally supported independent of the subgrading. I had a
geo friend check out the report and he agreed that the beams will be
deep enough to prevent any problems based on the uplift force.

To Cowpunk:

I have done my homework. Nuclear fuel processing plants are not a major
concern given the distance to my property. I have checked the Cancer
stats for the area and there are no abnormalities that would cause
concern. Also, remember I lived in NJ the superfund capital of the
country. Anywhere is safer than that state. My house was surrounded by
two superfund sites there.

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<snip>
>
> Bentonite is a very big problem in this area. I have seen houses not
> properly constructed for it and it's very sad. That being said, the
> report states potentially moderate to highly expansive soils are present
> on the lot. I take this to mean Bentonite. That is why the house will
> be built on a grade beam and drilled pier foundation. Thus the floor
> will be structurally supported independent of the subgrading. I had a
> geo friend check out the report and he agreed that the beams will be
> deep enough to prevent any problems based on the uplift force.
>
<snip>

you want expansive soil? we've got plenty of it here in the Phx
metro area. No shortage of it. :-(
 
> I have done my homework. Nuclear fuel processing plants are not a major
> concern given the distance to my property. I have checked the Cancer
> stats for the area and there are no abnormalities that would cause
> concern. Also, remember I lived in NJ the superfund capital of the
> country. Anywhere is safer than that state. My house was surrounded by
> two superfund sites there.

Rocky Flats is not a Processing plant. It was a weapons plant after
WWII.

The concern is that there is a lot of contaminated soil on the property
and
snow melt leaches through the soil and into groundwater and/or water
which flows
into Stanley Lake or other surrounding water supplies.


http://www.racteam.com/Experience/Projects/RockyFlats.htm
"Radioactive tritium was also released into the creeks on the plant
site on several occasions, and entered the reservoir downstream. "
 
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