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http://www.newyorkbarbells.tv/im-0350wh.html
They are switching over to a wider handled, more traditional looking
kettlebell. I picked up a 35 pounder yesterday. Workmanship and casting is
OK. I don't have any Pavlov kettlebells to compare to, these were supposedly
designed by Chinese masters.....
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They are switching over to a wider handled, more traditional looking
kettlebell. I picked up a 35 pounder yesterday. Workmanship and
casting is OK. I don't have any Pavlov kettlebells to compare to,
these were supposedly designed by Chinese masters.....
Their first offering, pictured on the left here:
http://www.newyorkbarbells.tv/kettlebells.html
was less than satisfactory for most things.
The flat top to the handle and the corner at the ends of it still isn't
great. See the difference?
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They are switching over to a wider handled, more traditional looking
kettlebell. I picked up a 35 pounder yesterday. Workmanship and casting
is OK. I don't have any Pavlov kettlebells to compare to, these were
supposedly designed by Chinese masters.....Their first offering, pictured on the left here:
http://www.newyorkbarbells.tv/kettlebells.html
was less than satisfactory for most things.
The flat top to the handle and the corner at the ends of it still isn't
great. See the difference?
I see the difference, but is it really significant?
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They are switching over to a wider handled, more traditional looking
kettlebell. I picked up a 35 pounder yesterday. Workmanship and
casting is OK. I don't have any Pavlov kettlebells to compare to,
these were supposedly designed by Chinese masters.....Their first offering, pictured on the left here:
http://www.newyorkbarbells.tv/kettlebells.html
was less than satisfactory for most things.
The flat top to the handle and the corner at the ends of it still
isn't great. See the difference?
I see the difference, but is it really significant?
It depends. We had an interesting discussion on Bryce Lane's board
about different kettlebell handles. There's a handle-only product
called the Kettlestack that you load your own plates onto. For the life
of me, I could not figure out a way to [censored] the thing right-handed
without the edge of a plate landing on a bone in my forearm. This is
not an issue for people new to the Kettlestack - they either figure out
a way to use what they've got, give up entirely, or whatever else, but
I've been doing this for a few years and have my own "groove" for the
movement. It was interesting but not altogether unexpected that the
groove I had left-handed was different than the one I had right-handed.
I could use the handle-based kettlebell left-handed for snatches without
much problem although I still didn't find them as comfortable as with
the kettlebells I was used to.
So there are things like that with the difference in handle between the
two kinds of kettlebells we're talking about as well - it only matters
if it matters to you. I tend to slide into the rounded area of the
handle pretty quickly when doing high-rep snatches and I think it would
matter to me, although I don't think I'd mind it nearly as much as the
sort of problems I describe above with the plate-loaded handle.
Bottom line - for swings, just about anything should work. For
movements in which the bell flips around like cleans and snatches, the
handle shape becomes pretty important. For movements in which the
handle flips once then stays there, e.g., jerks or presses, probably
somewhere in between in terms of importance. If you look here, for
instance:
you'll see the same rounding at the edges of the handle. I've used
these and _really_ like them, and if I was in the UK, I'd get them
instead of DragonDoor kettlebells because they're less expensive.
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> http://www.newyorkbarbells.tv/im-0350wh.html
>
> They are switching over to a wider handled, more traditional looking
> kettlebell. I picked up a 35 pounder yesterday. Workmanship and casting
> is OK. I don't have any Pavlov kettlebells to compare to, these were
> supposedly designed by Chinese masters.....Their first offering, pictured on the left here:
http://www.newyorkbarbells.tv/kettlebells.html
was less than satisfactory for most things.
The flat top to the handle and the corner at the ends of it still isn't
great. See the difference?
I see the difference, but is it really significant?It depends. We had an interesting discussion on Bryce Lane's board about
different kettlebell handles. There's a handle-only product called the
Kettlestack that you load your own plates onto. For the life of me, I
could not figure out a way to [censored] the thing right-handed without the
edge of a plate landing on a bone in my forearm. This is not an issue for
people new to the Kettlestack - they either figure out a way to use what
they've got, give up entirely, or whatever else, but I've been doing this
for a few years and have my own "groove" for the movement. It was
interesting but not altogether unexpected that the groove I had
left-handed was different than the one I had right-handed. I could use the
handle-based kettlebell left-handed for snatches without much problem
although I still didn't find them as comfortable as with the kettlebells I
was used to.So there are things like that with the difference in handle between the
two kinds of kettlebells we're talking about as well - it only matters if
it matters to you. I tend to slide into the rounded area of the handle
pretty quickly when doing high-rep snatches and I think it would matter to
me, although I don't think I'd mind it nearly as much as the sort of
problems I describe above with the plate-loaded handle.Bottom line - for swings, just about anything should work. For movements
in which the bell flips around like cleans and snatches, the handle shape
becomes pretty important. For movements in which the handle flips once
then stays there, e.g., jerks or presses, probably somewhere in between in
terms of importance. If you look here, for instance:you'll see the same rounding at the edges of the handle. I've used these
and _really_ like them, and if I was in the UK, I'd get them instead of
DragonDoor kettlebells because they're less expensive.
The round handle would have some advantages. Pavel looks like that guy who
helped the Viet Cong torture John Rambo.........
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