http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3CEC18C8.F7A44FB2%40dontSPAMMEmindspring.com&output=gplain I've
tried to get Groves to tone down his opinions since I've been in DIF. But he refuses. So I must try
some work-around and that would be the newsletter that would buffer the public from him. His work
with the web site has kept him very busy and out of everybody's way. But he's the only one who knows
anything about it.
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5/21/2002 15:12:46 -0400, Jim Dumas <
[email protected]> wrote:
> There is a board meeting for DIF next month...
> So I'm thinking about volunteering to be the editor and write an article on mathematical modelling
> useful for insulin dosing...
> Since I'll be the editor, I'll strike a balance between the beef insulin arguments and synthetics
> that I use.
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Groves is 10 years older that I am. I'm the youngest member of DIF and will inherit the reins. We
have tax exempt status as of May 2001 or so. So the train is still in the station and the schedule
is being worked out now. My current DIF duties are to keep order and focus Groves (impossible task).
Groves is starting to lose his mobility with the auto accident side leg. So he may not be an active
player in DIF soon.
The goal with you is just to keep the peace while the dust settles in
DIF.Groves has no organizational skills, so that is my major function with DIF now. Start to set up
the gears/procedures of the organization.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3C44E28B.68D7D51D%40dontSPAMMEmindspring.com&output=gpla-
in I admit that I'm probably the DIF alpha. Once Groves has beef insulin on the shelves, DIF
will disappear (or he will disappear more likely). He's short sighted. (I'll propose he head
up beef insulin clinical trial funding studies. This will be something he wants and then I'll
drive the bus.)
But IMO, DIF is necessary. We DMs need somebody watching out for us. So I would like DIF to be a
permanent organization with some clout. As you can tell, I'm primarily a peace keeper myself. I
would like that philosophy of check and balance to be ingrained in DIF.
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Next, I agree that he jams the gears in any organization he comes in contact with. Even now, he trys
to convert me to beef insulin when we see each other. But I'm stable and happy with what I'm doing
so I blow him off. This causes some friction but it ends in a few minutes and then we get something
productive done.
Now that you know I want to keep Groves away from the public, just email me if he shows and I'll
help to move him on to his official duties. I'll probably set up a thread to suck him in, embarrass
him in public and this will get him out of mhd for awhile.
You should also realize how deliberate and methodical I am by now. If a side argument will not help
to achieve the goal, it gets shutdown.
Sorry to upset everybody, my mission is over, thanks,
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D73E0B6.C67AF668%40deSPAMALATORmindspring.com&output=gplain AF
the future of DIF, we are thinking about doing other things, like separate SBIR work. So there is a
movement to turn everything over to Dave Groves concerning DIF, and he can run the show in unity. So
DIF may quietly disintegrate this fall.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3C3F7041.29DEA428%40dontSPAMMEmindspring.com&output=gplain I
plan to keep Groves focused on you alone. I'm driving the bus.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=o028b.8656%24Yt.3234%40newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net&out-
put=gplain
1) For Mary, only friends tell each other what they really think.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3CACBEBA.5B827A58%40dontSPAMMEmindspring.com&output=gplain I'm
a member of DIF (Diabetics International Foundation). Right now, it's focused on bringing beef and
pork insulin back into the US market.
As I mentioned in the Beav threads in the Jan-Feb time frame, I'd like to make DIF into a watchdog
organization for all DMs. I envision some lobbyist organization in Washington, DC, to promote our
cause and to hold the line against the pharmaceutical companies.
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Others have asked me to contact them when Groves is gone. So I'll add your name to that list. OK?
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> to further make my point, I suggest we drop the subject until such a time when Mr. Groves and Ms.
> Hunt are no longer "in charge" / involved.
> jim dumas wrote:
>>
>> At this juncture, there is no other political organization to fill
this void
>> for the patient (we DMs). So it's better to keep your fingers on
this
>> democratic pulse. You have an inside track through me and it's
free (no
>> schilling!).
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3CAF6F7E.EC57AA86%40dontSPAMMEmindspring.com&output=gplain My
approach with Groves is to ignore his views that are not in common with my own and work on issues
we can agree on. This also means my engine is idling because he wants to do everything himself.
Eventually, he'll ask for more help and I'll negotiate him away from the public. I'm a very
patient person.
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Moreover, it's important to realize Mr Groves will not be here forever and the rest of us should
learn how to work together in some political organization to promote our views.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BhR6b.8776%24_26.3141%40newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net&outpu-
t=gplain My approach with this issue was to preemptively release this information before his enemies
could jump
DIG.Honesty is the best policy.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=%25H26b.472%24BG6.293%40newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net&outpu-
t=gplain Next, in light of Dave Groves' health problems, I'm wondering where DIF will be going and
if the "Gray Ribbon" organizational signature is worth saving for some future DM organization.
If you thought of yourself as a friend to him, am glad that we don't know each other. Reading the ng
and searching on Dave Groves and his DIF says otherwise. There are many more references than these
that say so. A friend doesn't act like this-NIMHO.
Jim Dumas <
[email protected]!mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> BigNascarFan wrote:
>
> > GROVES, DAVID G., age 57, of Birmingham, Alabama formerly of Chicago, died February 28, 2004
> > after a long illness. Survivors include his daughter, Dana Ripple. A memorial service will be
> > held in Pennsylvania at a later time. Ridout's Elmwood Chapel is directing. <> Published in The
> > Birmingham News on 3/1/2004.
> >
> >
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