Odent on forceps (also: midwives 'prisoners of protocol')

Discussion in 'Health and medical' started by Todd Gastaldo, Feb 29, 2004.

  1. FREE ASSOCIATION OBSTETRIC EMERGENCY! (PROF. YOUNG, see below) In ACOG's Shoulder Dystocia Drill
    video, American MDs purport to tell each other how to allow birth canals to open maximally when
    shoulders get stuck - which means MDs know they are CLOSING birth canals most of the time. The
    kicker is that their method of allowing the birth canal to open actually keeps it closed!

    See ACOG birth crime video evidence http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2300

    ODENT ON FORCEPS

    "Forceps have their place only in museums." --Michel Odent, MD quoted by Jane Feinmann 23Feb04
    http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health/story.jsp?story=494271

    "Why...forceps deliveries...not been eliminated by the C-section?" --FREE ASSOCIATION BOOKS
    promoting Michel's new book...

    Attention DAVID FELTON (THE INDEPENDENT) via email addresses listed below... Please enquire
    regarding Jane Feinmann's article. See below.

    Attention FREE ASSOCIATION BOOKS ([email protected]) - please forward this to MICHEL ODENT, MD...

    MDs and MBs are CAUSING cephalopelvic disproportion (see below) then performing cesarean sections
    BEcause of cephalopelvic disproportion!

    Hopefully Michel Odent's new book, "The Caesarean" mentions this fact...

    If it doesn't, maybe FREE ASSOCIATION BOOKS could make sure it does?

    Who owns Free Association Books? It's difficult to tell from the fabooks.com website.

    PROF. ROBERT M. YOUNG writes: "Free Association Books has been taken away from its original owners,
    staff and supporters by a series of questionable manoeuvres on the part of new shareholders who did
    not wish to follow the founders' vision and who manipulated things and broke solemn undertakings
    which resulted in their being able to take over the company and expel its originators." http://www.shef.ac.uk/uni/academic/N-
    Q/psysc/staff/rmyoung/papers/pap105h.html

    MICHEL ODENT, MD (a "Free Association Books Resource") was recently quoted in THE INDEPENDENT (a
    British newspaper):

    "Many midwives today...are prisoners of protocol..." --Michel Odent, MD quoted by Jane Feinmann
    23Feb04 http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health/story.jsp?story=494271

    Hospital midwives (most midwives) are prisoners of bizarre OBSTETRIC protocol.

    CNMwives *promote* bizarre obstetric protocol that involves routine closure of birth canals up to
    30%! (See my discussion of CNMwifery Prof. Helen Varney below.)

    CNMwives promote routine closure of birth canals even though MDs INDIRECTLY admit the obvious
    crime on video!

    As noted above, in ACOG's Shoulder Dystocia Drill video, American MDs purport to tell each other how
    to allow birth canals to open maximally when shoulders get stuck - which means MDs know they are
    CLOSING birth canals most of the time. The kicker is that their method of allowing the birth canal
    to open actually keeps it closed!

    See ACOG birth crime video evidence http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2300

    Michel Odent, MD knows that placing women on their sacra (semisitting and dorsal) closes the
    birth canal...

    Michel told me in person years ago that the "fetus ejection reflex" gets women OFF their sacra - and
    that the reflex happens if women are allowed to labor feeling unobserved.

    I had approached him on a break at a presentation he gave in Monterey, CA and told him that his
    fellow MDs were closing birth canals.

    Attention DAVID FELTON of THE INDEPENDENT (UK): Please enquire...

    Assuming that Michel Odent, MD does indeed know that placing women on their sacra (semisitting and
    dorsal) closes the birth canal...

    Why is there *nothing* about MDs, MBs and midwives closing birth canals, in Jane Feinmann's
    INDEPENDENT article? (Incidentally, Jane's article mentions Michel's "fetus ejection reflex.")

    Did Michel just forget to tell Jane that MDs, MBs and midwives are closing birth canals?

    Did Michel ALSO forget to tell Jane how EASY it is for women to OPEN their birth canals the "extra"
    up to 30%?

    With MDs, MBs and midwives senselessly closing birth canals, shouldn't this information be in EVERY
    article about birth - until MDs, MBs and midwives stop their grisly birth tomfoolery?

    Copied to David Felton via [email protected] - also via - [email protected];
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    PREGNANT WOMEN: It's true: MDs, MBs and midwives (esp. CNMwives) are closing birth canals up to 30%.
    To allow your birth canal to OPEN the "extra" up to 30% simply roll onto your side as you push your
    baby out. Or go to hands-and-knees, or kneel or stand or squat - LOTS of "alternative" delivery
    positions allow the birth canal to open the "extra" up to 30%.

    Talk to your MD, MB or midwife about this today, noting especially for her/him the following
    "alternative" delivery position WARNING... Some MDs, MBs and midwives allow women to labor in
    "alternative" positions but then move them to semisitting (close their birth canals!) for the actual
    delivery! Make sure your MD, MB, or midwife promises not to do this!

    NHS DIGRESSION - Britain's NHS/National Health Service...

    Jane Feinmann notes that a British government investigation is reportedly advising that NHS not
    recommend cesareans more widely, as in,

    "[T]he NHS, widely accused of promoting [unnecessary birth] intervention, is being kicked into line.
    A two-year government investigation to settle the long-simmering row over whether Caesarean sections
    should be used more widely looks set to recommend that they shouldn't..."
    http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health/story.jsp?story=494271

    ODENT ON FORCEPS (again)

    Jane quotes Michel Odent, MD suggesting that since OBs remain insensitive to women's birthing needs,
    forceps should be put in museums and more cesareans *should* be performed, as in,

    "'Forceps have their place only in museums...As for the NHS, it's now or never for it to face up to
    women's birthing needs. Without truly sensitive obstetric care being available, women are fully
    justified in insisting on safe, surgical childbirth [cesareans]...'"

    Paraphrasing Michel, every interview with the media is a "now or never" OPPORTUNITY: WHY didn't
    Michel tell Jane that MDs, MBs and midwives are closing birth canals?!

    NHS's JASON GARDOSI, MD...

    NHS's Jason Gardosi, MD also knows that semisitting delivery closes the birth canal...

    "...the weight of the mother is in part taken on the sacrum which is therefore pushed upwards, thus
    decreasing the antero-posterior diameter of the pelvic outlet..." --British National Health
    Service/NHS West Midlands Perinatal Institute/WMPI, Jason Gardosi, MD, Director
    http://www.wmpi.net/reviews/oe/oe_shoulder_dystocia.htm

    NHS's Jason Gardosi, MD once tried to "scientifically" *cover-up* the obstetric crime: Gardosi and
    colleagues conducted a "randomised controlled trial of squatting" where nobody squatted - and got
    it published in The Lancet. Squatting allows sacroiliac motion and Gardosi et al.'s "squatting"
    women were semirecumbent in Gardosi's Birth Cushion - specifically designed to allow sacroiliac
    motion - which is presumably why Gardosi et al. were allowed to call their study a "squatting"
    study. Semirecumbency (semisitting) normally DENIES sacroiliac motion - keeps the birth canal
    closed up to 30%.

    I discuss Gardosi further in Sarah Key's huge balls (also: Kids can SQUAT motionless for hours)...
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2084

    (Sarah is occasional physiotherapist to HRH Prince of Wales.)

    BTW, Gardosi (and obstetrician pal Malcolm Griffiths) helped get me censored from OBGYN-List
    an international obstetrician listserv for suggesting that obstetricians should stop closing
    birth canals!

    Fortunately, two of my OBGYN-List posts were archived before I was censored...

    See http://forums.obgyn.net/forums/ob-gyn-l/OBGYNL.9707/0128.html http://forums.obgyn.net/ob-gyn-
    l/OBGYNL.9707/0153.html

    ODENT'S NEW BOOK...

    Jane concludes her article in THE INDEPENDENT with a plug for Michel's new book...

    "Michel Odent's 'The Caesarean' is published on 1 April by Free Association Books (Fabooks.com,
    £14.95)..."

    See also: http://www.fabooks.com/book.php?id=381

    HEY! Maybe Michel's BOOK will tell women that MDs, MBs, and midwives are knowingly closing birth
    canals up to 30%!

    Then again, maybe Michel TOLD Jane that MDs, MBs and midwives are knowingly closing birth canals...

    Maybe JANE forgot to say something!?

    Stranger things...

    With MDs, MBs and midwives senselessly closing birth canals, shouldn't every BIRTH BOOK mention the
    routine birth canal closure - at least until MDs, MBs and midwives stop their grisly obstetric
    tomfoolery?

    Hopefully Michel Odent's new book, "The Caesarean" mentions this fact...

    If it doesn't, hopefully Michel's publisher, Free Association Books will place an errata sheet in
    each book shipped - and change the text as soon as possible.

    Thanks for reading everyone.

    Sincerely,

    Todd

    Dr. Gastaldo [email protected]

    PS1 FACT: By using semisitting (and dorsal) MDs are *causing* "fetopelvic disproportion" even as
    they themselves say (quoting the 2001 edition of Williams Obstetrics):

    "se of oxytocin...is appropriate only after assessment to exclude fetopelvic
    disproportion." (p. 474)

    OXYTOCIN CAN KILL...

    MDs *say* they are only giving APPROPRIATE dosages of oxytocin now - which is good because...

    "With an inappropriate dose of oxytocin, the pregnant uterus may contract so violently as to kill
    the fetus, rupture itself, or both..." (p. 323)

    Some babies still die following oxytocin use...

    ALL dosages of oxytocin are inappropriate with the birth canal senselessly closed up to 30%!

    You don't close the birth canal then chemically whip the uterus to contract violently.

    Again,

    "With an inappropriate dose of oxytocin, the pregnant uterus may contract so violently as to kill
    the fetus, rupture itself, or both..." (p. 323)

    PS2 THE SILENT PROTOCOL...

    Again quotinig Jane quoting Michel:

    "Many midwives today...are prisoners of protocol..."
    http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health/story.jsp?story=494271

    I'm assuming Michel did not tell Jane that MDs, MBs and midwives are closing birth canals...

    Michel isn't the only one observing the silent protocol...

    See Henci Goer's mysterious silence about a White Elephant Fact... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-
    list/message/2336

    See also: ICAN and The Pink Kit: a dark side (Wintergreen is wrong) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-
    list/message/2279

    As indicated above, CNMwives not only observe "the silent protocol" - they PROMOTE routine closure
    of the birth canal!

    A few years back, Yale CNMwifery Prof. Helen Varney (and her publisher!) ignored my pleas and
    promoted semisitting - routine closure of the birth canal.

    Varney's 2004 edition STILL promotes semisitting - routine closure of the birth canal!

    See UNM CNMwife: 'If a woman panics at any time...' http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-
    list/message/2320

    As I've noted for CNMwifery Prof. Varney and her publisher...

    Clinical and radiographic evidence that MDs are closing birth canals has been in the medical
    literature since early last century.

    See PhD husband of a CNM... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2321

    Again, thanks for reading everyone.

    Sincerely,

    Todd

    Ds. Gastaldo [email protected]

    Copied to Michel Odent's publisher Free Association Books via [email protected]

    I SAY AGAIN TO FREE ASSOCIATION BOOKS ([email protected]):

    MDs and MBs are CAUSING cephalopelvic disproportion then performing cesarean sections BEcause of
    cephalopelvic disproportion!

    Hopefully Michel Odent's new book, "The Caesarean" mentions this fact...

    If it doesn't, maybe FREE ASSOCIATION BOOKS could make sure it does?

    This is not the first time I've emailed Free Association Books...

    See How to stop back pain during birth (Odent) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-
    list/message/2133

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