Stephen Nagler <
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> On 10 Feb 2004 08:45:18 -0800,
[email protected] (Carol T) wrote:
>>>>>>>> Actually no. I weas asking a hypothetical. It had nothing
to do with
> moral equivalents.<<<<<<<<<<<
Well that is good then because this hypothetical scenario would not exist with a true Christian, so
it has no need of an answer at all.
>>>>>>>>>>> Bust since yuo mentioned it - there is ABSOLUTELY no moral
equivalent to pedophilia.<<<<<<<<<<<
How do you measure this? What if I told you that the mother whose child was attacked by the
paedophile was trying to pick up her life and make some sense of it around the medical records were
accessed. Maybe work would have improved the lives of the child and the mother, to the extent that
the extra money would have allowed the family to move away from the evil and make a new start, new
life, new school, so the child could finish her education? How would the second betrayal be any less
than the first? Either way the mother fails to protect her child, again and again and again and the
child's hurt goes on and on. The hurting is insurmountable because betrayal of such a nature leads
somewhere to further hurt.
Do you still believe that there is no 'moral' equivalent to paedophilia, that the true scale of
hurt is irrelevant when there is hurting such as this? The important thing is the gravity with
which the moral crime is _felt_, that there is no injustice served on any patient at all. All
hurting in another person is hurt, it's magnitude is of little importance to someone who feels it
with that person.
I believe that for any doctor, that allowing the betrayal of patient trust is a moral crime above
all other crimes if they fail to understand its gravity, as they simply cannot know or undo the
likely harm that they could cause. How do doctors help other doctors to understand the agonies they
could be inflicting on patients if they have no equal measure of moral standards amongst them, and
no way of understanding how the pain feels?
>>>>> Is it OK for "A" to bear false witness against his or her
neighbor "B"
> if "A" has accepted Jesus?<<<<<<<<<<<
What does Jewish law say about this?
"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour." Exd 20:16
"Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour." Deu
5:20
If you accept Jesus, you also accept what he taught through what he learned as a Jew; but He also
taught us that we are all sinners, and because He loved us so much He asked His Father (our God) for
our forgiveness, paid for with His sacrifice.
>>>>>>>> Absolutely. And I would similarly be beside myself if a
patient
> betrayed that trust.<<<<<<<<
Yes, I agree and can empathise with how you would feel; but as the educated party in the partnership
it is up to you to take on board your patient's failings in not understanding the effects of that
betrayal on their doctors. Otherwise, the grieved doctor should use his/her skill to mask their
feelings, because the needs of their patients and others are always greatest. It's a heavy burden to
carry, but you should carry it with grace; society allows you the status that goes with it (all paid
for by your predecessors in their hard work, as future generations of doctors will carry your
earnings).
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, looking at the allegations *in context*, it
> was found that there wasn't any basis to even proceed to a hearing. The case was closed.<<<<<<<<<
But I suspect that the doctor concerned was left feeling that the matter caused him a lot of hurting
which went unresolved, unanswerable and unpunished, resulting in a lot of hurtful anger.
Fortunately, doctors can rise above this sort of thing if they understand the power of forgiveness
and love that a loving father has taught them. It's also fortunate that our doctors are taught to
such a high standard, that they can grasp some of the complex situation they find themselves in and
make some sense of them, and even use such experiences to teach future doctors.
>>>>>>>>>>> before using those
> snippets as the basis for unflattering innuendo or slander.<<<<<<<<<
Words can only hurt you if you allow them to, the devil thrives on this because people who are
hurting can be manipulated, for him it's all good fun (look back through the posts of those who
allow him to dance with them).
We have Jesus to give us the strength to put him behind us! If through Jesus you eventually find
your way back to your faith, then you can take comfort in the great things the Jewish faith has to
teach its children and the wisdom it contains to help you over come the evil which attacks you.
Focus on the love your Lord has for you with the love you have for Him with all your heart,
mind, and soul. This will be your blessing and for your children, they are the seeds of your
continuing faith.
There is power in what you are, if it is taken with the understanding of God's ways...
"No man shall be able to stand against you; the Lord your God will put the dread of you and the fear
of you upon all the land where you tread, just as He has said to you." NKJ Deu 11:25
What a great gift you have been given for yourself, your children, and their children.
Carol T